Hey guys has anyone thought of proposing to Lya on valentines day in game? Its symbolic or something and other. there any magic love rituals we could do?
 
Actually, I remember DP talking bout this once.

Viserys is alright with the traditional Targ marriage customs, for his descendants thought, he sees himself as too much of a parental figure to Dany to even consider it.

I actually expect to have this discussion eventually with Rhaella, if only as idle chatter once in SD.
Now that Malarys is on the party we can ask him how the Valyrians managed their incestuous practices without mental and physical problems. It must have been something more than "magical blood", probably some kind of ritual or something.
 
Now that Malarys is on the party we can ask him how the Valyrians managed their incestuous practices without mental and physical problems. It must have been something more than "magical blood", probably some kind of ritual or something.

There are many ways it can be explained:

1. The doom made it that the incest added excentric/stupid/crazy instead of PHENOMENAL MAGIC POWER.
2. It was common in the 40 Families but the big bad dragons kept people quiet.
3. Daelor Targaryen made a really stupid pact with something :V
 
Hey guys has anyone thought of proposing to Lya on valentines day in game? Its symbolic or something and other. there any magic love rituals we could do?

For Viserys X Lya?

That's love, magic rituals are work. Next time we go to a pretty place (first time in Air, I hope). Indicate to Tyene or Dany or Garin that we want a moment with Lya, and then "Lya, I love you. Will you marry me"?
 
On the matter of our hypothetical watch support Arcanum's safety, wouldn't a couple (or a dozen) constructs keep her safe? It's one thing to toss them as inefficient chaff at the popsicles, quite another to have a dozen steel constructs pull a Terminator on the next black brother's hand which touches the Arcanum.

For Viserys X Lya?

That's love, magic rituals are work. Next time we go to a pretty place (first time in Air, I hope). Indicate to Tyene or Dany or Garin that we want a moment with Lya, and then "Lya, I love you. Will you marry me"?

I think Azel wanted to do it under the shadow of Baelor's sept as it burned, heh.

I would like to do it after plentiful dancing and drinking in the Summer Islands... which now that I think about it, should have magical sex rituals...:rofl:

Edit: Didn't Tyrion in canon mention the Goddess of Tits and Wines? Assuming she doesn't turn out like that Tyroshi prick of a 'god' and its cursed wine, we might have a possible candidate for state pantheon expansion.
 
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There are many ways it can be explained:

1. The doom made it that the incest added excentric/stupid/crazy instead of PHENOMENAL MAGIC POWER.
2. It was common in the 40 Families but the big bad dragons kept people quiet.
3. Daelor Targaryen made a really stupid pact with something :V

I thought that the magic prevented the doubling up of bad traits passively, and as magic died, the logic of material reality made more and more of an impact in DNA and stuff.

I wonder if the OG's prohibition against incest wasn't to stop the horror that would result if it continued post sundering, or post doom, when the diminishing of magic really took off.
 
You know, the more I think about it the more I like it. Unfortunately, glorious neutrality seems to come in one of four flavours: Stern, Sterner, More Stern, and Very Much Stern. A good goddess of healthy partying might make our pantheon a bit less... well, stern.
 
On the matter of our hypothetical watch support Arcanum's safety, wouldn't a couple (or a dozen) constructs keep her safe? It's one thing to toss them as inefficient chaff at the popsicles, quite another to have a dozen steel constructs pull a Terminator on the next black brother's hand which touches the Arcanum.

People are cheaper.

You know, the more I think about it the more I like it. Unfortunately, glorious neutrality seems to come in one of four flavours: Stern, Sterner, More Stern, and Very Much Stern. A good goddess of healthy partying might make our pantheon a bit less... well, stern.

*frowns sternly*



;)
 
You know, wasn't there a thing about the Arcanums being built in a different sex than that of the Sage?

Afaik the XP sacrifice is so the new beings know how stuff works.
 
People are cheaper.



*frowns sternly*



;)

NPC's are cheaper, not PC's though... unless you want to send her in with a few NPC SD guards? Doable I suppose, but between the intel potential, possible political pitfalls, and actual language barriers, it might be unwise to pull off unless its very well thought out.

Edit: Now that I think about, there has been precious few bits of 'commanding' NPC's on Viserys' part. I hope that changes with the legions, I'd like for Viserys to actually feel like a King, commanding soldiers on missions and stuff...
 
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We REALLY don't need that particular trouble in the quest.

Oh, thought that Lya was going to use her level 10 ability to explore such... Areas.

An arcanum is not Lya, therefore cheating, male body Lya is a bit odd to consider, but not actually cheating.

I think it's the best we can do to satisfy the Oberyn/Viserys shippers.
 
Anyways, now that discussion has died down.

Defensive troop allotments for during and immediately after Tyrosh. If we have 2000-2500 combatants for the legion, that's 24-30 centuries (77 fighting men + 5 soldiers who protect the baggage/barracks(and likely serve as military police in a pinch) in a century).

Saltcliff: 1/2 Heavy Infantry century, including support staff.

Saltcliff has that bolthole we built way back when, where the population can flee to. It has one entrance, and with our brazier system checking in on places fairly frequently, if they're attacked they can just retreat there. Half a century can hold the entrance even if it's breached until we receive word that they're being attacked and can spare someone to respond.

Port Sorrow: 1/2 Crossbow century, including support staff.

Port Sorrow is similar in size and situation, in that the fortified inn there can serve as a fallback point. Unlike the cave in Saltcliff, it'd be more useful to provide fire from it than bar the door (natives can take care of that much).

Westhaven: 1/2 Crossbow century, 1/2 Heavy infantry century, no support staff and 1 Heavy infantry century, including support staff.

I'm hoping to partially disguise our troop movement for the Tyrosh attack as moving the trainers and soldiers to our new training center in Westhaven. The trainers will go on to Westhaven, but it'll still be the most likely target for someone to attack if they buy that we're moving soldiers there. It's not under Viserys's immediate protection, and if they kill the trainers, that will have nipped our army in the bud, right? So in addition to the trainers, I want at least two centuries worth of soldiers present in case someone thinks a quick raid sounds like a wonderful idea.

Deepcleft: None
Unless we have a pressing political/intrigue reason, I think Deepcleft has demonstrated good enough organization when we visited to both spot enemy attack and report it to us already. Sending troops there wont add much to their defense, and they could probably be better used in Tyrosh.

Sorcerer's Deep:

Here's where it gets tricky. We have both the city and our keep to safeguard, and we don't know how many targets we want to go for in Tyrosh, or how many sellswords we will have on hand, so I don't think we can decide on exact numbers. However, we can think about how many soldiers we want to keep permanently stationed in the city and in our keep in an "ideal" normal situation.

Looking through the canon text (shamelessly stealing other's work on it), most places are held with between 100-400 men as a garrison. Storm's End is expected to hold with 200 men, and Walder Frey, who is known for being cautious, keeps back 400 men for his garrison of the twins. Roose Bolton has the largest example of a garrisoned castle with 600 men, but he's Roose Bolton. I'm sure he had other reasons than mere garrisoning to leave so many men there.

Our castle is...pretty meager. We've been prioritizing other places for improvement, because Viserys is actually not a soft pampered noble at this point and doesn't really care all that much. That also means we don't need a huge garrison, particularly since the real defense is any PC who happens to be around on most days.

So, with that knowledge, I think a crossbow century, and a heavy infantry century works for the keep, and two crossbow centuries and two heavy infantry centuries works for the town (~500 troops for SD defense).

That would leave 15-21 centuries to go to Tyrosh (roughly 2 Heavy Infantry Companies, with some crossbowmen support), or 1262-1762 men.
 
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You read the whole thing again? did you take notes for the tropes page we will one day finally make?

Backread for the comments from the last 2 chapters.

I finished my fifth reread a couple of weeks ago. (Only the chapters, mind you. I'm not mad enough to read the comments as well).

It will be another couple of weeks or so before I read it all over again.
 
That does sound like enough to swat aside the Second Sons and most of the city watch/household guard/palace guard/glorified thugs.

It's not the Golden Company, but we'll be hiring a good chunk of sellswords, and we'll have our pirates/sailors as well. If we can get the dracolich solved and can teleport in, it'll be no problem. No teleporting tower, the PCs will need to help take gates quickly and early so troops can get inside the city asap, and we're much more likely to see fires potentially start, and it'll be messier all around.
 
Have we considered the use of fire ships to offset our navy's numerical disadvantage?
 
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