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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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I personally want to give the Spiked Chain to Valaena if Glyra is unable to wield it.

Mainly out of the hope that the "sane random encounter" agreement also means that "every piece of fiendish loot screws you over" rule is off the table.
 
So, either a wildling ranger dies, or a canibal murderbear spirit dies.
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Believe it or not, I think that it's a win-win situation for us in the end.
We'll be getting wildlings away from this side of the wall sooner or later anyway, no matter if bear lives or dies, and we'll get some good rep with watch from this venture too, even though I believe that killing the bear would've been closer to what we claimed we are originally, all the stuff about being "an enemy to all things hunting men", but whatever.

What I cannot understand in the slightest is some people's craving need to get their hands on werebear curse.
That's one step too far on scale of mage-wrought horrors, imo.
Though I can't agree with trying to loot this ranger either, so... Meeeh.

Let's just get on to getting to Bloodraven and asking all 50+ questions of ours.
And ressing Viserys' mother.
And getting our hands on sweet sweet magical sword and staff.
 
[X] Safe passage to your final destination
On the one hand killing exp loot sacks and more character encounters on the other we do need to get to Blood Raven quicker. Also can I say how awesome the Old Gods are about this, Give sacrifice and get reward it's a simple and elegant system. When we get the chance I want us to later get some kind of Weirwood blood shaman to do sacrifices on the go. Like a drive through divine service station.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Then the Bear dies, unless the spirit can survive the physical death here?

Either way a loss, regardless who wins.
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If she win then that is probably setting her on the path to be a proper hero which will be useful, if the bear wins we get to keep the bear, either way we get more than we would get had we just killed the bear, either the bear survives, and we have an werebear army against the Others, or Elle wins, and we have a PC who is likely going to get to high levels.
 
Hmm, does the Ascension detail about items changing shapes with us applies to weapons? I could see a staff curving and turning into a ring.

But how would that work with Dark Sister? Draconic Valyrian Steel Toothpick? :V

Also I really want to see Viserys wielding Dark Sister. Or Blackfire, if only for show.
 
Wheel of time said:
[X] Safe passage to your final destination
On the one hand killing exp loot sacks and more character encounters on the other we do need to get to Blood Raven quicker. Also can I say how awesome the Old Gods are about this, Give sacrifice and get reward it's a simple and elegant system. When we get the chance I want us to later get some kind of Weirwood blood shaman to do sacrifices on the go. Like a drive through divine service station.
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We need to make that sacrifice spear, with that anything we kill with it will automatically be sacrificed to the old gods.
 
As long as I got my sword and staff, baby I'mma leave it all in the snow tonight, let's scry through a few trees.
 
Seems set. We've questions beyond questions. Heck, our questions have questions.
Adhoc vote count started by Paradosi on Jan 16, 2018 at 6:58 AM, finished with 36 posts and 13 votes.
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To everyone with a hateboner for the bear: what's your plan to kill every Wildling over twelve years old in the north?

Because they are guilty of the same. Fucking. Crimes. As the bear spirit.

Maybe we should stab Xor's eyes out? You know, since he cooked up a plague that killed half of Lys?

This bear dude was trying to help. It has lived through the first Long Night, it's knows the sick and elderly will just quietly pass away into the night at best, after slowing everyone down, and wake up and start ripping throats out with their undead teeth and just ruin everything.

You might not agree with it, but everyone is guilty of murder in the north. Everyone.

So you either start a crusade or you shut up.
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Physical death it can certainly survive, what it offered is to fight her without a body, something that risks true death.
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What the, that fucking crazy spirit.

I dearly hope he gets a good fight but ultimately through crushes her.
 
Vote turned against me while I slept. That'll teach me not to have a ring of sustenance! :V

I think y'all misread the bear's character severely. I think he would have been fine being told to fight as atonement.

Ah well, maybe it turned out okay. Elle will never like us, but perhaps we can convince her that we are fair. She'll be trading with the Night's Watch more in an attempt to earn a silver sword, so we should make sure some silvered weapons are sent to them with the rest of the weapon shipment so they're on hand to sell.

Edit: Perhaps we could pay her to direct desperate families to where we start picking up Free Folk to take them away from the north?
 
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This is another instance of y'all trying to talk too much to people or beings who simply are not receptive to such tactics.
 
Diomedon said:
Vote turned against me while I slept. That'll teach me not to have a ring of sustenance! :V

I think y'all misread the bear's character severely. I think he would have been fine being told to fight as atonement.

Ah well, maybe it turned out okay. Elle will never like us, but perhaps we can convince her that we are fair. She'll be trading with the Night's Watch more in an attempt to earn a silver sword, so we should make sure some silvered weapons are sent to them with the rest of the weapon shipment so they're on hand to sell.

Edit: Perhaps we could pay her to direct desperate families to where we start picking up Free Folk to take them away from the north?
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Mithril Dagger.
 
Goldfish said:
This is another instance of y'all trying to talk too much to people or beings who simply are not receptive to such tactics.
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No, lesson learned. I'm disillusioned with Elle being stupid and clinging to revenge. The bear spirit can kill her for all I care.

The unbelievable thing was that she looked at us like she expected us to provide her with a silvered blade for her suicide mission.
 
@Duesal Where did you get that? She was pissed because she thought vengeance was at hand, but it was apparently never in the cards. Then when chided, and given an opportunity to grasp it, and the means to achieve it, was immediately satisfied by the arrangement and for all intents and purposes seemed ready to prepare herself for the day she fought the bear spirit through her own hard work.

You guys do remind me that we are all totally reactionary in the best ways, though. I can't believe we're bandying around things like "we should hunt down every wildling for potentially being a murdering asshole" which while probably true, directly contradicts the oath we're making to evacuate them all from the north and save their lives if we can help it.

I know we're doing that because it's more practical in the end rather than it being inherently "right", but still.
 
Crake said:
@Duesal Where did you get that? She was pissed because she thought vengeance was at hand, but it was apparently never in the cards. Then when chided, and given an opportunity to grasp it, and the means to achieve it, was immediately satisfied by the arrangement and for all intents and purposes seemed ready to prepare herself for the day she fought the bear spirit through her own hard work.
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That's really her own fault. We never swore an oath to help the Wildlings, we're in this to make the bear spirit stop hunting the Night's Watch. But for being "given the opportunity," yes, she now has the opportunity to die. Instead of fighting the monsters of the Long Night, she dies at the hand of something that's the enemy of the Long Night. Or--in a case of sheer dumb luck--she kills the bear and we lose a powerful ally against the Others. Should I be excited?
Crake said:
You guys do remind me that we are all totally reactionary in the best ways, though. I can't believe we're bandying around things like "we should hunt down every wildling for potentially being a murdering asshole" which while probably true, directly contradicts the oath we're making to evacuate them all from the north and save their lives if we can help it.
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No we're not? The worst anyone has ever said is that we'd be content with just leaving them Beyond the Wall if it weren't for the Others. That's hardly the genocide you're claiming we're advocating for.
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I know we're doing that because it's more practical in the end rather than it being inherently "right", but still.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm never going to be doing things because they're inherently right. There either has to be something practical to it (and there is in the case of saving the Wildlings), or I have to be personally invested. That's why I'm willing to jump through hoops for party members.
 
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