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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
Agreed with Tomcost.

An overarching message that was subtly broadcast--or not so subtly, depending on your point of view, but at least left unvoiced, was that they were completely in our mercy this entire time. Fancy armor and common steel was in no way sufficient protection when weighed against the personal power just the four of us held at hand, and were quite restrained in the application of.

Basically: Viserys hasn't strode into the Red Keep and simply ousted Robert from his birthright not because he isn't capable of doing so, but because he's got other things to worry about than who sits on the Iron Throne right now.
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Good. Now let's show them that we can teleport (and incidentally get our newest turtle to somewhere where it can be interrogated).
 
Edited in Deep Slumbering the turtle. It's such a minor point, but I'm kind of feeling suuuper paranoid right now. No point letting a devil stew and plot before we can do what we plan on doing with it.
 
Crake said:
Edited in Deep Slumbering the turtle. It's such a minor point, but I'm kind of feeling suuuper paranoid right now. No point letting a devil stew and plot before we can do what we plan on doing with it.
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It has too many HD to be vulnerable to Deep Slumber.
 
Do we have consensus?
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Jan 5, 2018 at 2:00 PM, finished with 135796 posts and 10 votes.
  • [X] Plan "Viserys just got a new ally of convenience!"
    -[X] "Agreed my Lord. Best we relocate however, where watching eyes might not easily go. Shall we reconvene?"
    -[X] Secure a hall from eavesdroppers, clear any imps that are found out, and suggest Brienne be questioned in regards to what she saw. Also suggest she use the Wayfinder in order to locate the Imp from earlier for capture.
    -[X] If questioned about when, how and where we intend to interrogate the shelled turtle, provide the following observations: The Fiend, if not bound with potent sorcery and held in captivity in a specially prepared area where it cannot use translocation to effect an escape, would provide too great a risk to release it from its polypmorphed shape. We intend on more thoroughly interrogating it at Sorcerer's Deep before disposing of it in such a way that it could not re-manifest and plague us with further assassination attempts, method unspecified other than that there are multiple avenues to doing so and that simply killing it doesn't destroy it entirely, just sends it back to Hell, if asked.
    -[X] If Renly still insists, we will use our standard MOP in dealing with the Fiend, minus any overt brain-melting, then BP it again for later disposal.
    [X] Diomedon
    [X] Azel
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Blun force trauma should be enough. It still has the same amount of HP that than the full devil. That means, 105 HP.

We will have to hit that turtle so many times that it will be distasteful.
 
Or we could have Tyene curse it's Wisdom attribute then use GSE to duplicate a Feeblemind spell. Then it will.be a turtle in mind and body.
 
[X] Plan "Viserys just got a new ally of convenience!"
-[X] "Agreed my Lord. Best we relocate however, where watching eyes might not easily go. Shall we reconvene?"
-[X] Have Tyene curse the Turtle-Devil's Wisdom attribute, then use Greater Shadow Enchantment to duplicate Feeblemind onto it.
-[X] Secure a hall from eavesdroppers, clear any imps that are found out, and suggest Brienne be questioned in regards to what she saw. Also suggest she use the Wayfinder in order to locate the Imp from earlier for capture.
-[X] If questioned about when, how and where we intend to interrogate the shelled turtle, provide the following observations: The Fiend, if not bound with potent sorcery and held in captivity in a specially prepared area where it cannot use translocation to effect an escape, would provide too great a risk to release it from its polymorphed shape. We intend on more thoroughly interrogating it at Sorcerer's Deep before disposing of it in such a way that it could not re-manifest and plague us with further assassination attempts, method unspecified other than that there are multiple avenues to doing so and that simply killing it doesn't destroy it entirely, just sends it back to Hell, if asked.
-[X] If Renly still insists, we will use our standard MOP in dealing with the Fiend, minus any overt brain-melting, then BP it again for later disposal.

Acceptable?
 
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Feeblemind lowers intelligence to animal level, which would make it something of a waste when using it on something you already turned into a turtle.

And on that note, I think the winning plan is detailed enough for what you guys intend so vote closed.
 
DragonParadox said:
Feeblemind lowers intelligence to animal level, which would make it something of a waste when using it on something you already turned into a turtle.

And on that note, I think the winning plan is detailed enough for what you guys intend so vote closed.
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Baleful Polymorph only affects intelligence after a day.

So yes, Waymar spent a whole day as a starfish.
 
Tomcost said:
I think that the image that we want to sell is "Yes, we can murder you all and conquer everything, but I'm busy saving the world"
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Just wanted to make sure.

Also, can I say how much I love it that we can be absolutely honorable, and let a potential war come into the Seven Kingdoms? We have now confirmed as Fenly as fake, and we have a way to verify it thanks to his silver blood. We just have to let Stannis get back to them, and take some steps to prevent them from potentially blaming us. There's a chance that Fenly will just abdicate or something, but even that will make this whole thing look bad on the Baratheons and by extension the Lannisters, since they're the ones who are supposed to deal with all of this shit. The best result would be war which would distract them from us.

Weirdly despite knowing that we don't have to do more than take some basic precautions, a part of me wants to rescue Renly, and recruit him as an ally a well as loot Fenly to work under us. I can only imagine that I've been reading this quest too much.:confused:
 
You're not the only one. While there is a lot of rumbling about how we won't ever find Original Flavor Renly... Come the hell on. No one that important will stay out of the limelight for long. We are bound to meet them at some point.
 
I would love to arrange events in a way that Stannis gets the Stormlands and Other Renly becomes our subordinate.
 
DP: Here is a competent, polite, honorable "Westerosi Lord", that should be an interesting contrast to all the incompetent, rude, and/or treacherous true Lords.
Half the Thread: ...Loot?
I'd rather leave Renplacement right where he is. He's basically the platonic ideal of 'Lord Paramount of the Stormlands' and when we eventually do conquer Westeros, it'd be nice to have competent underlings already in place for once.
 
Sqweaktoy said:
DP: Here is a competent, polite, honorable "Westerosi Lord", that should be an interesting contrast to all the incompetent, rude, and/or treacherous true Lords.
Half the Thread: ...Loot?
I'd rather leave Renplacement right where he is. He's basically the platonic ideal of 'Lord Paramount of the Stormlands' and when we eventually do conquer Westeros, it'd be nice to have competent underlings already in place for once.
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If it weren't for the fact Stannis is also a good lord I would agree, but Stannis is a good Lord, and he's not going to be happy unless he rules Storms End, even then he wont be happy, but less irritated at the world is an improvement.
 
Renly feels very "hero of another story".

It's really fucking out there how the looming threat with this dreadful reputation appears and turns out to be reasonable and stuff, and then you get a hint of your secreted origins, you don't have any clue what's going on other than that there's something irregular, maybe even wrong with you...

...and two feet away we basically know the grand gist of what is going on and have chosen not to share it with Renly, not out of any malice or any real beginning of a scheme to manipulate him... but mostly because it would be too cumbersome to talk about it right now and there are other things we could be doing.

One person's grand destiny is just another's "huh, that's sure interesting".
 
Sqweaktoy said:
DP: Here is a competent, polite, honorable "Westerosi Lord", that should be an interesting contrast to all the incompetent, rude, and/or treacherous true Lords.
Half the Thread: ...Loot?
I'd rather leave Renplacement right where he is. He's basically the platonic ideal of 'Lord Paramount of the Stormlands' and when we eventually do conquer Westeros, it'd be nice to have competent underlings already in place for once.
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You're ignoring the fact that Stannis will come into conflict with him because he's not the real Renly. Other Renly abdicating and then coming to us is probably the most bloodless way this could go.
 
Tomcost said:
Baleful Polymorph only affects intelligence after a day.

So yes, Waymar spent a whole day as a starfish.
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It immediatly affects intelligence, it just takes a day to loose memories and language-understanding too.

Baleful Polymorph :: d20srd.org
You change the subject into a Small or smaller animal of no more than 1 HD (such as a dog, lizard, monkey, or toad). The subject takes on all the statistics and special abilities of an average member of the new form in place of its own except as follows:
  • The target retains its own alignment (and personality, within the limits of the new form's ability scores).
 
Duesal said:
You're ignoring the fact that Stannis will come into conflict with him because he's not the real Renly. Other Renly abdicating and then coming to us is probably the most bloodless way this could go.
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There's also the possibility that Stannis get convinced, Renly abdicated willingly in favor of New Renly, he will grit his teeth over that a whole lot, but it's Renly's right to name his successor, of course this is only if we manage to convince Stannis that's what happened.
 
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