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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Azel

It helps put mortals at ease when former devils can be trusted to die by their side.
 
[X] "Do you think that I filled the sky with silver ships to conquer stone keeps?"
-[X] let that sink in for a moment, then continue. "In the earliest days of creation Heaven towered over the spheres; its gods imperishable, it's fortresses inviolate, and it's law unimpeachable. To contemplate its destruction was as all but inconceivable, and almost as futile."
—[X] " With the fall of Heaven we were cast in a great shadow, but even here there is yet a spark of hope. For in shattering paradise our foes have shown us this: nothing, no matter how mighty, is truly unbeatable"
—[X] " From almost it's very beginning the mortal soul has turned the cosmic wheel, and this is not simply an artifact of convenience. Within each of us is the potential to reach of greatness, and together to shape the world entire."
—[X] " In the fullness of time we shall grow to face the monsters at our door, and in the mean time we will protect our own with all that we have."
—[X] " If we must stand without the outer planes, with only the closest of our gods, then so be it. We shall be the light"
—[X] Turn to Mereth and ask her to begin summarizing the military situation in Heaven


I think the current plans lean too much into passing responsibility to the gods, and implicitly suggest That we can't fight them or really do anything about it ourselves. That's true, but not what we need to say right now in my opinion. What we need is to reassure them that it's possible for them to do something other than wait to go through the meat grinder themselves.

I'm also pretty sure my plan is like 30% too melodramatic, so I'd appreciate some advice on how to clean it up a little.
 
BronzeTongue said:
[X] "Do you think that I filled the sky with silver ships to conquer stone keeps?"
-[X] let that sink in for a moment, then continue. "In the earliest days of creation Heaven towered over the spheres; its gods imperishable, it's fortresses inviolate, and it's law unimpeachable. To contemplate its destruction was as all but inconceivable, and almost as futile."
—[X] " With the fall of Heaven we were cast in a great shadow, but even here there is yet a spark of hope. For in shattering paradise our foes have shown us this: nothing, no matter how mighty, is truly unbeatable"
—[X] " From almost it's very beginning the mortal soul has turned the cosmic wheel, and this is not simply an artifact of convenience. Within each of us is the potential to reach of greatness, and together to shape the world entire."
—[X] " In the fullness of time we shall grow to face the monsters at our door, and in the mean time we will protect our own with all that we have."
—[X] " If we must stand without the outer planes, with only the closest of our gods, then so be it. We shall be the light"
—[X] Turn to Mereth and ask her to begin summarizing the military situation in Heaven


I think the current plans lean too much into passing responsibility to the gods, and implicitly suggest That we can't fight them or really do anything about it ourselves. That's true, but not what we need to say right now in my opinion. What we need is to reassure them that it's possible for them to do something other than wait to go through the meat grinder themselves.

I'm also pretty sure my plan is like 30% too melodramatic, so I'd appreciate some advice on how to clean it up a little.
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I like where you're going with this, but for now, I really don't think it's a bad thing to seem to be passing so much responsibility to the gods. We're powerful, magically, militarily, economically, etc., but we're new, even if we have conquered 1.5 continents in just a few short years. People are terrified and while we can help allay those fears, it's the gods that they've known all their lives to whom they will turn to in this moment of crisis.

The best chance of calming them down, getting them to act rationally and preventing unfortunate incidents of mental breakdown in the days to come, is to convince them that something is ready to protect their vulnerable souls tomorrow if they die. That's the gods.
 
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I like where you're going with this, but for now, I really don't think it's a bad thing to seem to be passing so much responsibility to the gods. We're powerful, magically, militarily, economically, etc., but we're new, even if we have conquered 1.5 continents in just a few short years. People are terrified and while we can help allay those fears, it's the gods that they've known all their lives to whom they will turn to in this moment of crisis.

The best chance of calming them down, getting them to act rationally and preventing unfortunate incidents of mental breakdown in the days to come, is to convince them that something is ready to protect their vulnerable souls tomorrow if they die. That's the gods.
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I get where you're coming from, but this is also a hugely influential moment in how our government will develop. If our answer to the question "can we even fight this at all" is that the gods will save us then the loudest thing we are saying is no.

We've hammered on the necessity of gods a significant amount already, now is the time to start convincing them that they're more than prayer batteries and fiend bait.
 
[X] Ask Mereth to present the military situation on the Planes, taking advantage of the unexpected moment of tact to drive home the notion that your baatezu are in the same boat as the rest of the Realm
-[x] have Yrael and Mereth prepare a presentation for future briefings on the status of the realms.
 
So I'm seeing some debate starting up but the vote is very one sided. I'll leave it up for an hour or two more to see if there is any more interest in the new vote and then I'll assess if I should close it or leave it open more. Does that sound fair?
 
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@BronzeTongue, your plan is great. However I'll remind you that to our audience, it would just sound like the wildest of hubris. They're not used to operating on the same scales of bullshit as us.
Let's keep that speech for when we announce our god-crafting success, yeah?
 
Also mention that to be sure their souls are certainly not stolen there are ways for that to be found in the opaline vault or the scholarum
 
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