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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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There is a contradiction regarding Maegor in the update, as it was previously established that he was concieved without magic.

DragonParadox said:
The most momentous thing you discover is clearing queen Visenya's name of slander. She had not used blood magic to conceive her son, though you doubt her detractors will think much of evidence gained by necromancy.
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DragonParadox said:
"You are telling me the rumors were true for once, Maegor was born of blood magic?" you ask, surprised but not angry or disturbed. If anything, you are amused. "That might perhaps explain why he was so fond of it then."
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DragonParadox said:
And this is the less fun part of running a quest for five years, forgetting hat was established two years ago. Will fix in a bit when I have time to write.
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The ironic part is the contradiction is almost PERFECTLY opposite of what you previously established, with only a little minor quibbling that it's "not like Visenya was sacrificing babies over a ritual altar and using her own personal athame or anything", not that it would have given much comfort to anyone hearing about it.

No, the more ironic thing you decided at the time would be that Visenya was innocent of at least THOSE accusations regarding Maegor, though one imagines he got his attitude and penchant for selling other people's blood for his own benefit and personal power from someone, and he spent most of his time with his mother out of his parents.
 
DragonParadox said:
the girl Myrecella 'Baratheon'." Bloodraven's lips twisted into a familiar smile when he said the words. "And yes, I did ask our guests what they wanted the girl for. Apparently she was born under an auspicious conjunction and they hoped that they might raise her to join the Undying.
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A birth so auspicious even the warlocks of Qarth tried bargaining for her.

She really is meant to be a warlock. Hopefully when the tome comes she binds to something that isn't total crap.
 
We could always "foster" her with the Warlocks. If the price is right.

Anyway:

[X] Meet the Formian Queen, the Warlocks and the Lhazareen in that order.
 
Azel said:
We could always "foster" her with the Warlocks. If the price is right.

Anyway:

[X] Meet the Formian Queen, the Warlocks and the Lhazareen in that order.
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If she's prime Warlock material, then she's probably suitable to be a Dragonfire Adept, too. Wouldn't that be a nice little cherry on top of the conquest if Myrcella, one of the last Lannisters (by blood if not name) born before the family was dissolved, became an Imperial Dragonfire Adept wielding power derived from Viserys?

DP recently confirmed that Viserys can now empower them without being negatively affected.

[X] Azel
 
Goldfish said:
If she's prime Warlock material, then she's probably suitable to be a Dragonfire Adept, too. Wouldn't that be a nice little cherry on top of the conquest if Myrcella, one of the last Lannisters (by blood if not name) born before the family was dissolved, became an Imperial Dragonfire Adept wielding power derived from Viserys?

DP recently confirmed that Viserys can now empower them without being negatively affected.

[X] Azel
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That would require fostering her in SD.

How old are the three again?
 
The way I'm envisioning it:

Joffrey = Runestone
Tommen = Braavos
Myrcella = I guess Sorcerer's Deep, if we're going the Dragonfire Adept route.
 
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Crake said:
The way I'm envisioning it:

Joffrey = Runestone
Tommen = Braavos
Myrcella = I guess Sorcerer's Deep, if we're going the Dragonfire Adept route.
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Myrcella has potential as a warlock and a PC so I can justify her being fostered but Joffrey and Tommen have no such redeeming factors why would we arrange for them to fostered with nobility when we have plans to reduce house Lanister to peasant states , it makes no sense to have the Lanisters striped of their lands , titles ,privileges and noble states then go through the effort to wipe our asses with their honor and reputation only to then send their most controversial children to foster in places were they could gain states , influence and friends in high places
 
mmgaballah said:
Myrcella has potential as a warlock and a PC so I can justify her being fostered but Joffrey and Tommen have no such redeeming factors why would we arrange for them to fostered with nobility when we have plans to reduce house Lanister to peasant states , it makes no sense to have the Lanisters striped of their lands , titles ,privileges and noble states then go through the effort to wipe our asses with their honor and reputation only to then send their most controversial children to foster in places were they could gain states , influence and friends in high places
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Because they can be used as figureheads for any revolt attempts against us, so they need to be fostered someplace where we can keep an eye on what they are doing and who's influencing them. Remember that we gave our word that Joffery wouldn't be harmed, and that entails somewhere with good security, better than a typical orphanage would have. Also, they're not responsible for the sins of their parents, so why shouldn't they be turned productive members of society? Heck, we've recruited one or two of Bobby B's kids, so why should we do the same for them?
 
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TonedMite said:
...So that people don't try and prop them up as the rightful heirs?
I don't know.
edit: Garin'd
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They're valuable for a variety of reasons, metaphysical ones among them apparently. They were born under auspicious circumstances to ancient bloodlines and they have contemporary political value.
 
Crake said:
They're valuable for a variety of reasons, metaphysical ones among them apparently. They were born under auspicious circumstances to ancient bloodlines and they have contemporary political value.
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Well, AN ancient bloodline, but the point stands lol
I would make the case for fostering them outside of Westeros at the very least, somewhere where we can keep them safe and monitored but no one really knows or cares who they are.
Tommen's barely past a golden retriever in mental development right now, so no worries there, but Joffrey is old enough to remember "I wuz king!1!" so that could be more complicated.
 
Arawndil said:
Tommen's barely past a golden retriever in mental development right now, so no worries there, but Joffrey is old enough to remember "I wuz king!1!" so that could be more complicated.
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Eh, he was never crowned. And being King was more just a distant glory and reflection on "must be like Dad, get his respect".

The kid needs positive role models. Those are a lot scarcer on the ground over in Essos because... well... most of the people we know there are amoral bastards. They're our amoral bastards, granted, but we don't need to mix analogies here.
 
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