Why get mad about something we're a month away from taking back?
Because Tywin can break it.

Honestly, I think Tywin have a dead man switch on him were if he dies the whole Westerlands become a pile of ash and anything we could loot becomes unusable, and just enough clout to spread rumors that the Dragon Greed ended up with the Westerlands in ruins, to make our Westeros conquest just a little bit more difficult as the population enters into a panic and believe we're going to feed them all to our dragons and laundry list of abominations against nature.

Because if there is someone spiteful enough to pull the biggest fuck you, it would be Tywin.

It doesn't help the idiot think he have Baator "intimidated" and possibly call on their services.
 
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Because Tywin can break it.

Honestly, I think Tywin have a dead man switch on him were if he dies the whole Westerlands become a pile of ash and anything we could loot becomes unusable, and just enough clout to spread rumors that the Dragon Greed ended up with the Westerlands in ruins, to make our Westeros conquest just a little bit more difficult as the population enters into a panic and believe we're going to feed them all to our dragons and laundry list of abominations against nature.

Because if there is someone spiteful enough to pull the biggest fuck you, it would be Tywin.

It doesn't help the idiot think he have Baator "intimidated" and possibly call on their services.

This is one of the reasons why I want Tywin and Lanna assassinated asap. The faster they die the less time they have to screw something up and give Westerosi nobles more screentime. :V
 
This is one of the reasons why I want Tywin and Lanna assassinated asap. The faster they die the less time they have to screw something up and give Westerosi nobles more screentime. :V
I remember a game where if you perform all the sidequests the final fight difficulty shots up by several orders of magnitude.

I guess that's what happens when you try to go for the 100% completion rate.
 
I would love to interact with more rational characters who realize that someone has to sheep-herd and corral the blue and orange entities in the world. And logically that person should be us.

Coincidentally, being the go-between for abominations against the natural order and the rest of the world means we get first pick of all the goodies they can provide, so don't fuck with us! Those treats are nasty.
 
Because Tywin can break it.

Honestly, I think Tywin have a dead man switch on him were if he dies the whole Westerlands become a pile of ash and anything we could loot becomes unusable, and just enough clout to spread rumors that the Dragon Greed ended up with the Westerlands in ruins, to make our Westeros conquest just a little bit more difficult as the population enters into a panic and believe we're going to feed them all to our dragons and laundry list of abominations against nature.

Because if there is someone spiteful enough to pull the biggest fuck you, it would be Tywin.

It doesn't help the idiot think he have Baator "intimidated" and possibly call on their services.
Fair point. Fingers crossed we manage to recover it intact.
 
I see that the Lannisters have once again meddled in things they do not understand...how amusing. I will enjoy Tywin's death. Also, Lanna is concerning. We may need to look into that.
 
@Azel, @Goldfish, Why bother with incorporating the Golden shield mages? Just kill them all. We arent so desperate as to accept any one with already suspect motives into the Scholarum. This should be the one institution where the employed do not have to feel nervous about politics.
EDIT: Why are you guys saying that the Lannisters are using something belonging to Zathir to awaken mages. Is that said somewhere?
 
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@Azel, @Goldfish, Why bother with incorporating the Golden shield mages? Just kill them all. We arent so desperate as to accept any one with already suspect motives into the Scholarum. This should be the one institution where the employed do not have to feel nervous about politics.
EDIT: Why are you guys saying that the Lannisters are using something belonging to Zathir to awaken mages. Is that said somewhere?
Mass butchering people with little pretext is very costly in PR and I sincerely doubt that most of those who won't die in the fighting will be no problem after the Inquisition has weeded out the last few idiots.
 
Thats a waste of time and resources. Just kill them by giving them true deaths or feed them to Yss. Problem solved.
While I agree perfectly well with the sentiment, that would kiiiinda ruin the narrative we've had running this whole time.
The "VIserys and the Empire are pro-Magic, and unless you consorted with Devils or were exceptionally Aurane stupid, you'll live"-one, that is.

We can just kill them all, but then any further recruitment on Westerosi soil would go like shit, since they are an established institution that common people know mages had more-or-less decent experience in.
Very few know about all the oaths and Geas-binding happening on the inside.

EDIT: mostly Azel'd?
 
Interlude DCCCC: The Order of the Golden Shields Part Two
The Order of the Golden Shields Part Two

Weapons and Plans: The plans of the Golden Shields, such as I have been able to ascertain, hinge upon the notion that they will be able to force a confrontation over Lannisport either by inflicting enough damage upon any invasion force or by the symbolic value of taking the Rock. One suspects this strategy is based, at least in part, on the Lannister conviction that the Empire is fragile in the absence of its ruler. They are still hoping to play Cyvasse, kill the king and the rest will crumble.

The dragon-slayer construct itself is not something I have personally witnessed in action, but I have spoken with those who did, and thus gained some insight into its mechanisms. It makes use of the connection of Valyrian dragonblood, be it dragonlord or lesser beast, to an ancient curse of death and ruin. Thus, it is preternaturally protected against not only fang, claw and fire, but also any magic one of dragon blood might cast. Further, its own attacks cut deep into blood and bone, even into the mind of any dragon it strikes. I distinctly recall one argument between Lanna and her goodbrother as to whether any dragons struck down by the latter would be driven to a berserk rage or to flight. Tywin preferred the former thinking that mad dragons would cause more damage to their own allies as well as giving him more political fodder in the aftermath of victory, where Lanna eventually prevailed in making the curse one of flight so as not to risk harm to Lannisport.

Expect use of wands, staves, and elemental engines such as one might find in the Wars of the Three Spheres as well as alchemical and arcane explosions to seal off any breaches as enemy forces storm the Rock. The knights who trained alongside the Golden Shields can be expected to hold their own against the best Legion champions and perhaps even some flesh-forged beings, though the weight of dead bodies should grind them down. I would not be surprised to find that certain traps were rigged to bring down the entirety of the Rock to deny it to enemies as a last gambit. It seems suitably petty for a man as in love with his own self-made image of invincible ruthlessness as Tywin Lannister. One would hope Lanna would not go along with such a loss of lives, lore, and potential, but sadly I cannot be certain of that.

Potential Infiltration Routes: Although navigating the innermost chambers of the Rock or Castamere would not be easy for an invader, there are of course means of bypassing the defenses, there have to be in order for the Golden Shields to function on a day to day basis. The members as well as any visitors brought this far use Tokens of Passage bound to their blood and soul. I am still in possession of my own token, and while my access may now be rescinded I am confident I can work out how to create a skeleton key of sorts given enough time and perhaps access to genie enchanters who would be familiar with the tradition.

Fallback and Flight: The Golden Shields have no plans that I know of to continue resistance after an eventual conquest of the Westerlands. To plan for that would be to plan for defeat and the fall of House Lannister. That said, mages who have been selected for loyalty as well as skill may well take it upon themselves to make such plans, particularly in light of the rumors circulating about your rule among them. The Sisters of Battle in your ranks are known to them, though Lanna herself does not believe you have made a pact with Hell to gain their services and neither does her closest circle, rumors to that nature are common among the Dutiful. The experience of dealing with devils has left many of them leery of even a whiff of brimstone.

What next?

[] Write in

OOC: The part about targeting the dragons' minds sounds to Viserys like a sort of supped-up Feeblemind using the curse on the Valyrian Reds as a template. It might be one of those things that can punch through otherwise absolute defenses like mind blank.
 
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[X] Outsider-summoning report, 2nd Month
-[X] From living and dead Devils in Slavers' Bay (2nd month):
--[X] 5 Erinyes (1 Servant of Mammon); 1 Ashmede; 6 Gaavs (2 unaffiliated); 2 Imps
---[X] The Erynies allegedly serving Mammon is to be put through extra-thorough check on the account of her name being available through suspect sources. Given she's even willing to turn to our service, of course.
-[X] 4-steps removed from Devisl captured in Slavers' Bay initially, names from Devils summoned in 1st month
--[X] 5 Salikotals, 2 Ink Devils, 3 Gaavs (Servants of Asmodeus)
-[X] Mammon's Devils summoned previously
--[X] 2 Erinyes (Servants of Mammon)

[X] 2nd Month Industrial Alchemy Expansion
-[X] New Facilities:
--[X] Wildfire (Cost: 30,000 IM)
--[X] Antitoxin (Cost: 30,000 IM)
--[X] Heatstone (Cost: 30,000 IM)
--[X] Incendiary Catalyst (Cost: 30,000 IM)

-[X] TOTAL: 120,000 IM


Because y'all wanted these always to be voted-on, and DP hates giving us background summons without dedicating a whole chapter to that.
 
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By the by, what else we have before Qohor:

[] Getting Marwyn's party's info to assign them next month (levels, gear, statement on preferences for assignments, etc.)

[] Getting the copy of the clockwork familiar traded for in Hellven during the 1st month.

[] Three Points, Three Kindred, One People, Part 3
-[] Blight's Bane
 
The Order of the Golden Shields Part Two

Weapons and Plans: The plans of the Golden Shields, such as I have been able to ascertain, hinge upon the notion that they will be able to force a confrontation over Lannisport either by inflicting enough damage upon any invasion force or by the symbolic value of taking the Rock. One suspects this strategy is based, at least in part, on the Lannister conviction that the Empire is fragile in the absence of its ruler. They are still hoping to play Cyvasse, kill the king and the rest will crumble.

The dragon-slayer construct itself is not something I have personally witnessed in action, but I have spoken with those who did, and thus gained some insight into its mechanisms. It makes use of the connection of Valyrian dragonblood, be it dragonlord or lesser beast to an ancient curse of death and ruin. Thus, it is preternaturally protected against not only fang claw and fire, but also any magic one of dragon blood might cast. Further, its own attacks cut deep into blood and bone, even into the mind of any dragon it strikes. I distinctly recall one argument between Lanna and her goodbrother as to whether any dragons struck down by the latter would be driven to a berserk rage or to flight. Tywin preferred the former thinking that mad dragons would cause more damage to their own allies as well as giving him more political fodder in the aftermath of victory, where Lanna eventually prevailed in making the curse one of flight so as not to risk harm to Lannisport.

Expect use of wands, staves, and elemental engines such as one might find in the Wars of the Three Spheres as well as alchemical and arcane explosions to seal off any breaches as enemy forces storm the Rock. The knights who trained alongside the Golden Shields can be expected to hold their own against the best Legion champions and perhaps even some flesh-forged beings, though the weight of dead bodies should grind them down. I would not be surprised to find that certain traps were rigged to bring down the entirety of the Rock to deny it to enemies as a last gambit. It seems suitably petty for a man as in love with his own self-made image of invincible ruthlessness as Tywin Lannister. One would hope Lanna would not go along with such a loss of lives, lore, and potential, but sadly I cannot be certain of that.

Potential Infiltration Routes: Although navigating the innermost chambers of the Rock or Castamere would not be easy for an invader, there are of course means of bypassing the defenses, there have to be in order for the Golden Shields to function on a day to day basis. The members as well as any visitors brought this far use Tokens of Passage bound to their blood and soul. I am still in possession of my own token, and while access may be rescinded I am confident I can work out how to create a skeleton key of sorts given enough time and perhaps access to genie enchanters who would be familiar with the tradition.

Fallback and Flight: The Golden Shields have no plans that I know of to continue resistance after an eventual conquest of the Westerlands. To plan for that would be to plan for defeat and the fall of House Lannister. That said, mages who have been selected for loyalty as well as skill may well take it upon themselves to make such plans, particularly in light of the rumors circulating about your rule among them. The Sisters of Battle in your ranks are known to them. Though Lanna herself does not believe you have made a pact with hell to gain their services and neither does her closest circle, rumors to that nature are common among the Dutiful. The experience of dealing with devils has left many of them leery of even a whiff of brimstone.

What next?

[] Write in

OOC: The part about targeting the dragons minds sounds to Viserys like a sort of supped-up Feeblemind using the curse on the Valyrian Reds as a template. It might be one of those things that can punch though otherwise absolute defenses like mind blank. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
Tbh, I'm looking at the Rock, and I'm seeing a Dwarven Fortress.
Overcomplicated, overprepared, hard to get into...
And maybe, just maybe, something that is going to crash and burn at the worst possible moment.
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I'm losing any desire to attack it, especially if they want it to be attacked, the more I look at it.

If there were no Lana and Tywin out there, to activate whatever contingencies and fuck with our Reconquest, I would've preferred to just set some Wyverns on doing supersonic bomb-runs on any forces trying to leave the place (I.e. most of their people), and ignored it until we are done everywhere else.

Eh.
Bottom line, the way I see it, we can afford to lose the place wholesale to "if I don't have it, noone has it!"-countermeasures, long as:
a) Tyein is dead (and we slap Rest Eternal on top to prevent resurrection from a pre-gathered piece)/captured
b) Lana is (and we slap Rest Eternal on top to prevent resurrection from a pre-gathered piece)/captured.

It is a neat as hell base, but maaaaaybe not worth it, depending on how many defenses Garin and Nuri reveal infiltrating it next month.
 
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Well, if they will push for defending their fortress, we shall simply bombard it until it breaks. We have superior firepower.

Speaking about fortresses, we are not going to make the Imperial Palace able to fly just in case, right?
 
@Azel, @Goldfish, Why bother with incorporating the Golden shield mages? Just kill them all. We arent so desperate as to accept any one with already suspect motives into the Scholarum. This should be the one institution where the employed do not have to feel nervous about politics.
EDIT: Why are you guys saying that the Lannisters are using something belonging to Zathir to awaken mages. Is that said somewhere?
If we really didn't want them, I would advocate for exile, we have plenty of allies who could use some mages, and if we say exiled them to a Fortress city in Nirvana, they wouldn't be a problem for us, and helping Elysium get reinforcements, would buy us points with both the Gith and the Celestials in that city.

Personally I don't think we should even kill Lanna, she's a high level mage, if she can't be convinced to be loyal to us, I would advocate for sending her to work for one of our allies.

She's way too useful to let stay dead if she can be convinced not to seek revenge, whether or not she can be convinced to work directly for us, as long as she can at least be convinced to accept exile, and enrollment in the defense force protecting one of the remaining cities of Nirvana, doing that would be way more useful, than just letting her stay dead.
 
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