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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
Ah... that take-over was just perfect in every way...
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I'm still proud of that particular conquest (even though it was mostly your work, I just enjoyed watching it unfold). We butchered every political rival we had in the entire city, pinned all of the blame on the city's most popular moron, got their army to die against our army and show everyone in Westeros and Essos that the Legion is the new unbeatable force at least in terms of mortal armies, and then at the end of it all we personally killed Aedon.

10/10 would plot again.
 
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Duesal said:
who isn't all that educated or just doesn't have much innate talent,
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I agree pretty much carte blanche with what you said. There is an interesting part here.

We have been making education and knowledge more available. At all levels of society. As well as creating a lot of class mobility.

This wasnt altruistic. An educated work force is an effective workforce. Especially for difficult and complicated tasks like piloting a wyvern.

I think at least part of what this whole... thing is for is to make it easier for "diamonds in the rough" to stand out and actually make something of themselves.

Azel said:
Democracy doesn't favor sensible people, but demagogues
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Brutal, albeit. I would hate for demagogues to run around without drawing governmental oversight however.

How is it as a means of gathering information?
 
zxzx24 said:
I agree pretty much carte blanche with what you said. There is an interesting part here.

We have been making education and knowledge more available. At all levels of society. As well as creating a lot of class mobility.

This wasnt altruistic. An educated work force is an effective workforce. Especially for difficult and complicated tasks like piloting a wyvern.

I think at least part of what this whole... thing is for is to make it easier for "diamonds in the rough" to stand out and actually make something of themselves.
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Yep. Viserys won't waste talent where he recognizes it. Those who show aptitude and inclination would be streamlined for the bureaucracy.
 
I am requesting assistance. Does anybody know where Azel talked about the faith of the seven being a crappy outlet for peasent revolts that never really effects actual change?
 
The next update should not be too tricky so let's see if we can get back up to three updates for today

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 31, 2020 at 4:13 PM, finished with 44 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Formalize the concept of public gatherings for the purpose of Peaceful Protest, as well as putting checks in place requiring certain paperwork being submitted in advance, not to obstruct it from taking place but simply to keep track of (and hold responsible) the organizers and so as to have points of contact for any movement responsible for them. This allows the Inquisition and Lawmen to focus its efforts on bad faith actors and prevent the undue persecution of non-violent activists.
    -[X] It also makes it easier to crack down on dissidents whenever the protests turn rowdy, while allowing most citizens to express their opinions without any real option to force changes.
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@DragonParadox, just to be sure, would this count as an MA, or need an RA?

[] Trade for Fey Lore applicable to Imperial Deity project (without spreading the information on the exact nature of the project too freely) with the Fey of:
-[] Sea Courts
-[] Golden Grove Court
-[] Spread-out Westerosi Old Gods-aligned Courts
-[] Wild Hunt
-[] Lys' Goblin Market Court
 
zxzx24 said:
I am requesting assistance. Does anybody know where Azel talked about the faith of the seven being a crappy outlet for peasent revolts that never really effects actual change?
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I have genuinely no idea what you are talking about and I usually remember my own rants quite well.


On an entirely different note, after the gunpowder debate, I wonder how the balance of power on Planetos would shift if you actually implemented what I talked about, with Westeros having simple cannons, western Essos the first matchlock guns, and Ghis in the process of reforming their own Unsullied into a Janissary-like outfit making use of massed arquebus fire. The War of the Five Kings would be a lot more interesting, with Tywin and Stannis trying to exploit their money and their strategic positions respectively to get Essosi sellswords to fight on their sides, while the Ironborn suddenly become a major threat due to their expertise with naval cannons.
 
Realistically if the Ironborn were regularly sinking fleets prior to WoFK, but still (probably) lost due to overwhelming numbers disadvantage... there would be no Ironborn fleet. There might not even be an Ironborn. Westeros is pretty vindictive when they get their noses bloodied.
 
egoo said:
@DragonParadox, just to be sure, would this count as an MA, or need an RA?

[] Trade for Fey Lore applicable to Imperial Deity project (without spreading the information on the exact nature of the project too freely) with the Fey of:
-[] Sea Courts
-[] Golden Grove Court
-[] Spread-out Westerosi Old Gods-aligned Courts
-[] Wild Hunt
-[] Lys' Goblin Market Court
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Research, you need someone skilled in arcane matters to figure out what they are selling and if it''s worth buying, this is really esoteric stuff. 12 Progress should do it.
 
Azel said:
I have genuinely no idea what you are talking about and I usually remember my own rants quite well.


On an entirely different note, after the gunpowder debate, I wonder how the balance of power on Planetos would shift if you actually implemented what I talked about, with Westeros having simple cannons, western Essos the first matchlock guns, and Ghis in the process of reforming their own Unsullied into a Janissary-like outfit making use of massed arquebus fire. The War of the Five Kings would be a lot more interesting, with Tywin and Stannis trying to exploit their money and their strategic positions respectively to get Essosi sellswords to fight on their sides, while the Ironborn suddenly become a major threat due to their expertise with naval cannons.
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Stannis' fleet suddenly becomes much more dangerous, able to bombard King's Landing without actually making a melee assault.
 
Crake said:
Realistically if the Ironborn were regularly sinking fleets prior to WoFK, but still (probably) lost due to overwhelming numbers disadvantage... there would be no Ironborn fleet. There might not even be an Ironborn. Westeros is pretty vindictive when they get their noses bloodied.
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I'm assuming some basic competency on the part of Balon. My idea would be that the Ironborn fought and lost their rebellion as in canon, but with Balon being aware of the availability of naval artillery in Essos, he decided to prepare for the next round. Hence a few foundries beings set up in the Iron Isles and gunpowder being stockpiled for the day of the rematch.
 
Azel said:
I have genuinely no idea what you are talking about and I usually remember my own rants quite well.


On an entirely different note, after the gunpowder debate, I wonder how the balance of power on Planetos would shift if you actually implemented what I talked about, with Westeros having simple cannons, western Essos the first matchlock guns, and Ghis in the process of reforming their own Unsullied into a Janissary-like outfit making use of massed arquebus fire. The War of the Five Kings would be a lot more interesting, with Tywin and Stannis trying to exploit their money and their strategic positions respectively to get Essosi sellswords to fight on their sides, while the Ironborn suddenly become a major threat due to their expertise with naval cannons.
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I may have falsely attributed it to you. Let me do some more digging.
 
W8, did we or did we not have Benerro joining Mel on 3rd's month action?
Is he too glass-cannon-y?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 31, 2020 at 4:13 PM, finished with 44 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Formalize the concept of public gatherings for the purpose of Peaceful Protest, as well as putting checks in place requiring certain paperwork being submitted in advance, not to obstruct it from taking place but simply to keep track of (and hold responsible) the organizers and so as to have points of contact for any movement responsible for them. This allows the Inquisition and Lawmen to focus its efforts on bad faith actors and prevent the undue persecution of non-violent activists.
    -[X] It also makes it easier to crack down on dissidents whenever the protests turn rowdy, while allowing most citizens to express their opinions without any real option to force changes.
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Part MMMDCXXXII: Gathering Power
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    • Gathering Power ​

    Twenty Seventh Day of the Second Month 294 AC

    "I have no objection to peaceful protests, excellency," you answer smoothly, already considering how to arrange the matter to ensure they stay peaceful and the inquisition has a record of the organizers. More work for the clerks. "I am certain sufficiently skilled leaders can apply pressure where it is needed without slipping into undue acts." The implication is clear. You, unlike the Council of Elders, will not budge at pressure from the streets, nor are you overly concerned at gatherings here in Elyria.

    "I shall take your words under advisement, Your Grace," the man, more messenger than leader you are now certain, slips back into the crowd. The ones who hold his fealty are cautious enough not to want to contradict a sorcerer in person, which fits into the reports from the negotiations. There is more than one reason why you are worried about the traders being infiltrated, after all. They are not only the most likely to have encountered the agents of hostile powers, but also the ones who could do the most damage.

    Still, as the shadows from the western slopes shroud the seeming, to make the pale columns of the temples all the brighter, fealty is taken in water, in soil, and in words that have not been spoke in this place for four hundred years and more.

    Altars are cold and without flame, and the only dragon flying overhead is one of steel, yet once more Elyria is sworn under the banners of empire, if one quite different from the one whose fiery death the city had so narrowly avoided.

    "I wonder why this island lived alone of all Valyria's core lands," your mother muses aloud as you are moving back to the harbor in formal procession, rose petals undisturbed by the insubstantial hooves of shadow steeds. "Is there some god or power we are not seeing...?"

    "No matter how many hands try to tip the table, the bones still fall as they will," Oberyn replies, looking out towards the west beyond the low crests that overlook the city to the mainland, wreathed in fire and wild magic. He apperas as pensive as you have ever seen the Red Viper. "They were lucky. Twice over at that, since the envoy whose word they swore to didn't come from a place hotter than Valyria. Probably still a few of them out there, cheering the loudest so as not to draw suspicion."

    "A few devils the inquisition can deal with. They would have to possess a stranglehold on the local levers of power to move the local assemblies to their will," you answer, not overly concerned with the prospect. It is not as though geographic proximity speaks much of where devils can act once summoned to this sphere.

    "They might be able to use those... protests you allowed as cover for any plots, Your Grace," Elia warns from your other side. "Once a crowd is gathered, for whatever purpose, it's easier to forge into a mob."

    "The same could be said of any large gathering," you answer in turn. "Still, these gatherings will be closely watched."

    What next?

    [] Write in

    OOC: The reason I wanted to get this up tonight is because the rolls were good enough that it's a wrap here in Elyria.
     
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    • Time to finish off the research actions.

    [X] The Undeath's End: The secret of creation of the ancient and extremely potent anti-Undead poison you received from Faceless Men is lost to eons... Yet one of the greatest poison-makers the world knows is in your employ, and few other races have as much intimate knowledge of poisons as the Snake-kin, and the Drow, both of whom you have access to. Recreate the ancient mixture (Progress: 0/50, Cost: ??)
    -[X] Elaheh Marita (4d6 Progress), Quburn (4d6 Progress)
    -[X] And if the above isn't enough for one update...
    [X] Tireless Steel, by Sorcery Moved: The art of golem-making is ancient indeed... but one has to wonder if it is possible to wring an armor in the same qualities, to create personal defense truly unsurpassable. (Requires the "Layering the Defenses"-Research Action)
    -[X] Develop the basic chassis of the Imperial Powered Armor systems - and create the Warden Pattern armor. (Progress: 8/26, Cost: 140.000 IM)
    --[X] Valeria the Wondersmith (4d6 Progress)
    [X] Tyene Level Up
    -[X] Class: +1 Mystic
    -[X] Skills (5 points): +1 Bluff, +1 Concentration, +1 Craft (Poison Making), +1 Diplomacy, +1 Sense Motive
    -[X] Spells:
    --[X] 3rd Level: Retrain Nauseating Shroud >>> Battlemagic Perception
    --[X] 5th Level: Retrain Plane Shift >>> Holy Ice
    --[X] 7th Level: Greater Plane Shift
    --[X] 8th Level:     Visions of the Future
     
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    Remaining stuff (aside from Qohor, but I insist on it being the last thing in the month):
    Here's RAs:
    [X] The Undeath's End: The secret of creation of the ancient and extremely potent anti-Undead poison you received from Faceless Men is lost to eons... Yet one of the greatest poison-makers the world knows is in your employ, and few other races have as much intimate knowledge of poisons as the Snake-kin, and the Drow, both of whom you have access to. Recreate the ancient mixture (Progress: 0/50, Cost: ??)
    -[X] Elaheh Marita (4d6 Progress), Quburn (4d6 Progress),

    [X] Tireless Steel, by Sorcery Moved: The art of golem-making is ancient indeed... but one has to wonder if it is possible to wring an armor in the same qualities, to create personal defense truly unsurpassable. (Requires the "Layering the Defenses"-Research Action)
    -[X] Develop the basic chassis of the Imperial Powered Armor systems - and create the Warden Pattern armor. (Progress: 8/26, Cost: 140.000 IM)
    --[X] Valeria the Wondersmith (4d6 Progress),

    [X] The Mind's Games: The psychological effects of repeated and sustained enchantment on the mental state and brain of the average person (Progress: ??, Cost: ??).
    -[X] Velen (4d6 Progress), Mantarys Scholarum Branch (+2d6 Progress)

    [X] A Baleful Mirage: You have recently been forwarded a set of spell-scripts and samples by which the Efreeti have been made use of to manipulate the 'Grey Veil'.
    -[X] While this may be a technological dead end, studying it will prevent its usage from being as effective in the hands of your enemy and may even be of some use to your allies (Progress: ??, Cost: ??).
    --[X] Beryl the Strategist (4d6 Progress), Anu of Sallosh (4d6 Progress), Volantis Scholarum Branch (+2d6 Progress)
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    Here's MAs:
    2nd month on-screen MAs and points of interest:

    [] Checking in on Meraxes and the progress of creation of the "Imperial Steel".
    [] Grabbing notes on Lannisters/CItadel/Various threats off Marwyn
    [] Getting the Wildunt's mercenary Fey sorted in (get DP's statement that they are now available for assignments)
    [] Getting Marwyn's party sorted in (levels, gear, statwment on availability for assignments, etc.)
    [] Getting the copy of the clockwork familiar traded for in Hellven the 1st month.
    [RNG: 7+ days after the 24th of 2nd month] Summoning the Void-aligned Daemon encountered in Sarnor
    [RNG] Continuing to be on the lookout for the Chosen of Stranger via the dead-drops they were leaving for the Chosen of Smith.
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    Here's Adventures and other Hero Character actions:

    [X] Against the Stars: The efforts of your people have not been unnoticed by the Court of Stars. Even as your efforts continue, they are sure to retaliate - and so you shall leave a force capable of keeping the task secured... As well at stopping whatever further efforts the Fey may decide to try and implement.
    Type: (Bodyguarding, sabotage, assassination, reconnaissance, direct combat when necessary)
    Goal: (Defending the Fey set on breaking the Fey pact, actively stopping all the efforts of CoS possible, further looking into the ways to attack the CoS (in)direcly)
    -[X] Waymar, Lady Saenena, Sandor Clegane, 3x Mind Dragons, 4x Guardian Nagas, 6x Erynies, Soft Strider, Glyra & her troupe, 1x Umbral Stalker, 1x Orphne Fey Lord, Vrath the Serpentfolk Hexblade (Hexblade 7?), Shara the Inquisitor,

    [X] Heart of Waters, Darker Tides: With the ever-growing knowledge of the Illithid activities, so grows the worry. You may not be able to handle war with the group present on the Plane of Balance alone... Thankfully, you don't have to be. The Marid have proven to be at least somewhat amiable to giving help... if convinced to.
    Type: (Diplomacy, looking for more allies, establishing deeper trade connections with the Marid -- Possibly Planar Terminus in the City of Glass?)
    Goal: (See above)
    -[X] Hermetia, Aubert Flowers (Cavalier 10), Kennos of Kayce, Koron Redmane (Fighter 6/Barbarian 3), Lothos Saan (Swashbuckler 3/Rogue 3/Scarlet Corsair 3), Grazdan the Grim (Fighter 6/Legendary Captain 2), 1x Mind Dragon, 1x Umbral Spy, 1x Fallen Shield Archon, 3x Fallen Hound Archon (3 levels in martial class), 2x Fallen Spyglass Archon (4 levels in Rogue)

    [X] The Swamps Dried: Clear out the swamps of Braavos of remaining malicious entities, and whatever remains of the Bright One's court, establishing a stronger presence of trade companies and accelerating the rate of the gathering of rare resources.
    (Opposition: ??; Rewards: ??)
    -[X] Thoros of Myr (Paladin 10), Mercy of the Soul, Alyssa Crowl (Ranger 13), Danar Crowl (Bard 6/Lyric Thaumaturge 7), Mors 'Crowfood' Umber (Fighter 2/Barbarian 6), Argo the Cunning Bull, x4 Heralds (CR 10), 5x Guardian Nagas
    --[X] (if necessary) Nirah - Champion of Yss - the Voice of the Timeless One (CR 20), 1 Harbinger (CR 15)

    [X] Raiding on the Plane of Fire:
    -[X] Amrelath, Siduri of Dis, Yurten, 1x Yssian Naga
    -[X] 1x Gelugon / Ice Devil, 2x Steel Devil, 3x Lead Devil, 6x Salikotal

    [X] Infiltration into the City of Brass:
    -[X] Maelor (continued), 1 Mind Dragon (continued), Bronn (continued), Sarell (continued).

    [X] Supporting dismantling Abraxxas' cult in Lorath:
    -[X] 1x Mind Dragon (CR 15), 1x Myrkdreki (CR 15), 1 Herald (CR 10), 1x Umbral Stalker

    [X] Support Genie War on the Efreerti
    -[X] 1x Moonchaser-class ship (w/4 Type B Wyverns), plus 8x Type-A Wyverns, 3x Manticore Fighter-Bombers

    [X] Three Points, Three Kindred, One People, Part 3
    -[X] Blight's Bane
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    [X] Duesal
    @Crake, @Goldfish, any level-ups yet?
     
    egoo said:
    W8, did we or did we not have Benerro joining Mel on 3rd's month action?
    Is he too glass-cannon-y?
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    To second this question, do we add Teana to next month's Qohor-wrangling (Free Action)?
    Her reaction after Sarnor is murky to me by now (ayy to memory issues), but I think she wanted a bit of a break..?
     
    egoo said:
    To second this question, do we add Teana to next month's Qohor-wrangling?
    Her reaction after Sarnor is murky to me by now (ayy to memory issues), but I think she wanted a bit of a break..?
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    While Benerro would certainly be useful in the war, he's probably going to be best served organizing the faithful of R'hllor within the Imperium for mass prayer to fuel the battle. He's not quite the head of the faith considering the differences between the cities, but he's definitely the closest thing to it.
     
    Duesal said:
    While Benerro would certainly be useful in the war, he's probably going to be best served organizing the faithful of R'hllor within the Imperium for mass prayer to fuel the battle. He's not quite the head of the faith considering the differences between the cities, but he's definitely the closest thing to it.
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    Okay, he's part of Free Action then.

    But I really, really can't remember Teana's mindset IC right now.
    We can let her cool for a month, she's not Viserys-grade essential.

    @DragonParadox?
     
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