@Azel, @Duesal, I agree.
I wouldn't have asked about minor Gods if I cared too much, I would've just slapped that into MAs, since no one ever cares about those.
Mwha. Ha. Ha.
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If we assume DP takes the side if reason and we can take Squids and Efreeti off our immediate threat-to-handle-list, it seems our priorities are like this:

1) CoS, so we dont have to fight them as well during Reconquest.
2) Norvos/Quohor, because shit's be going down, yo.

3) Reconquest proper.
3.1) Lannisters are the only actual opponent, though?
3.2) Some time gotta be taken to consolidate Westeros too.

4) Slavers' Bay actual.

5) Grabbing the rest of Essos/doing dungeon-delves in Sothoryos and Valyria/looking into dealing with Drow, Underdark and Llolth/

6) ---Here--- we can start planning delving into Valyria's heart and killing the 15th, unless Warlocks of Quarth shape up to be an apocalyptic threat as well.

7) Squids and Efreeti and prepping for the Long Night and dealing with Yi-Ti and the Blood Emperor.

...It really gets confusing after Slavers' Bay, yea.
1. I don't anticipate a peaceful resolution with the Court of Stars, personally. We want dramatically different things, and neither of us can afford to back off. We want them to quit their Feywild 2.0 plot and bend the knee if they plan on sticking around in Westeros, and they've been established as fiercely proud and highly unlikely to say the least to abandon their scheme. If they back down I will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath. I do agree they need to be prioritized, though.

2. Yep. While Qohor obviously has shit going down with the Shub-Niggurath, we also need to have an eye on that gigantic pit in Norvos that randomly spawns monsters. Do we even know what that is? Is it a portal to the Abyss or a passage to the Underdark?

3.1. Depending on how it goes, the Lannisters might get desperate enough to call in help from devils or something. Among Westerosi, yes, they're the only genuine opposition. Everyone else is either on our side or just doesn't want to die to obvious military superiority.

3.2. Absolutely. Months at least. We have infrastructure to take care of and update (roads everywhere, fixing King's Landing's goddamn sewers), riots to quell, an entire religion to pacify as angry septons preach against us, court to be held, etc. It's going to be the time sink to end all time sinks. But on the bright side, we can crown ourselves Imperator once Westeros is conquered. Hello fourth Mythic Rank!

4. The second Westeros is conquered, Slaver's Bay is next on the list, though like I said earlier we need to keep up the intrigue battle nonstop or Asmodeus will be so utterly entrenched removing him will be impossible.

5. I was actually thinking about annexing the Summer Islands through lots of economic incentives. With that we'd almost completely control the western half of the world. After that we can of course expand control elsewhere, but it'd definitely be good for us to get them vassalized sooner rather than later. But yeah, right around this time is where we start planning on dealing with other less immediate threats.

6. Agreed, this stage is for rapid reclamation of Valyria, clearing out the major citadel ruins, and closing in on the Fifteenth at Valyria's heartland.

7. We should probably get as much intel as possible on the squids outside of Prime Material too, so we're not blindsided in case they call in reinfocements.
 
. I don't anticipate a peaceful resolution with the Court of Stars, personally. We want dramatically different things, and neither of us can afford to back off. We want them to quite their Feywild 2.0 plot and bend the knee if they plan on sticking around in Westeros, and they've been established as fiercely proud and highly unlikely to say the least to abandon their scheme. If they back down I will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath. I do agree they need to be prioritized, though.
Post at @Azel, he seemed to have some sort of plan for 'dealing' with them. :V
I have no idea how we are gonna kill them off in 2 months' span, but we really gotta try our damnest lest we gonna square off against them and Lannisters at once.
And at that point, it'd be easier to just kill everyone in Reach, or carpet-bomb it to ruin, than rooting out CoS
Do we even know what that is? Is it a portal to the Abyss or a passage to the Underdark?
SCP-1437? :V

though like I said earlier we need to keep up the intrigue battle nonstop
Pretty much assumed as a given, yes.

We miiiiiight want to make fuckloads of CR15 creatures focused on stealth and assassinations, going through magical defenses unnoticed, with Watchman Creature templates on top. @Goldfish?

Our intriguers alone aren't up to snuff when we have everything else to deal with.

We should probably get as much intel as possible on the squids outside of Prime Material too, so we're not blindsided in case they call in reinfocements.
I'm thinking, we should focus lots of diplomancers (non-Companion) on PoW for the months until it becomes relevant, strengthening ties with Marid cities in the meanwhile.
Our best case scenario is a united front against Squids and Efreeti alike.
 
Post at @Azel, he seemed to have some sort of plan for 'dealing' with them. :V
I have no idea how we are gonna kill them off in 2 months' span, but we really gotta try our damnest lest we gonna square off against them and Lannisters at once.
And at that point, it'd be easier to just kill everyone in Reach, or carpet-bomb it to ruin, than rooting out CoS
Until they become more then two-dimensional villains, the answer is Murder, Murder and more Murder.
 
Of course we can. Eat the crown, get some back-up against time distortion form the Old Gods and go blasting.
Can the OG do that? We're asking Gods who are fundamentally linked to Planetos and its Dreamlands to go and fundamentally alter the functioning of another plane with its own Gods Mythic Archfey.
 
@Azel, some quotes I managed to track down, not all of them yet... I think.
2) How much Progress (if at all possible? Can we so much as guess yet?) to make an reality-anchor that would make it impossible to time-dillate someone in the Feylands, and would just spew them back into Material if they are affected too much?
It's not possible to make such an anchor, at least not without somehow dragging your own major god with you. For 32 progress and 20.000 IM you could make something that warns you if you are about to be temporally dilated
 
Yeah, but I'm suggesting to drag a major god-mind with us.
...we gotta summon a lot of unaffiliated Daemons this month and up until the point we go dealing with CoS next month, then.

Our measly HD supply right now is really not up to feeding OGs to such a grand act.

I suppose we can try to do it, though...

(No, I don't believe the True Names from the Devils killed/captured this month will help much to fill out all of the Background Summoning we can do.

....It is an entirely unnecessary and arbitrary book-keeper-y mechanic anyway...)
 
...we gotta summon a lot of unaffiliated Daemons this month and up until the point we go dealing with CoS next month, then.

Our measly HD supply right now is really not up to feeding OGs to such a grand act.

I suppose we can try to do it, though...

(No, I don't believe the True Names from the Devils killed/captured this month will help much to fill out all of the Background Summoning we can do.

....It is an entirely unnecessary and arbitrary book-keeper-y mechanic anyway...)
My hope is that we can capture some court leaders next month and use them as sacrifices to pave the way to facing the Queen.
Hmmm... Might be worthwhile to scrape together the sacrifices to make a Bloodraven-approved Herald of the Old Gods to take with us for that war. He could be the beacon of the Old Gods' fury.
I was thinking about taking copious amounts of molds in combat forms with us. They should serve fine as conduits for the Old Gods.
 
We could also use the crown as a focus for a Fel curse no? Do what the First Men did to the Andalos?
Just weakening Fey will not address the problem of their leadership continuing to be in the shithole Feywild is.

Hmmm... Might be worthwhile to scrape together the sacrifices to make a Bloodraven-approved Herald of the Old Gods to take with us for that war. He could be the beacon of the Old Gods' fury.
Gotta be careful with that one.
Even with as calmed as OGs were by raising the Dawn Age Tree, a proposal of filling Zokok with too much juice caused DP to warn us OGs might just send it to "right wrongs" right away to Westeros.

They are better now, but I think we should be careful with them until after we finish the whole "blood revengeance"-business, for Uncle's sake if nothing else.
 
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By the way, @DragonParadox,
1) Can we use Miracle on our Zomok to extract enough... "essense" I suppose, of his old body to reconstruct it (or rather, a "generic Green dragon"-form) in the Fleshforge?

2) Can we utilise the Heart of Ice as a point from which to remake the White Dragons wholesale?

-------- to the thread -------
Basically, we have Reds who are sworn enemies of Tiamat as us and Amy.
....And one more who saw that Timmie's sint as hot shit as she shows herself to be.
We have the Blue Ysandrix, who doesn't care for Timmie one bit either.

If we can remake Greens and Whites (with some brain updates, the latter desperately need those) and keep the newly-restored breeds from turning to Tiamat (like, ever)?

We'd only have to find a way to recreate Blacks to achieve Maximum Heresy.
:V
 
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My hope is that we can capture some court leaders next month and use them as sacrifices to pave the way to facing the Queen.

I was thinking about taking copious amounts of molds in combat forms with us. They should serve fine as conduits for the Old Gods.
That works just as well. Also fingers crossed for a few Court Leaders.
Just weakening Fey will not address the problem of their leadership continuing to be in the shithole Feywild is.


Gotta be careful with that one.
Even with as calmed as OGs were by raising the Dawn Age Tree, a proposal of filling Zokok with too much juice caused DP to warn us OGs might just send it to "right wrongs" right away to Westeros.

They are better now, but I think we should be careful with them until after we finish the whole "blood revengeance"-business, for Uncle's sake if nothing else.
Fair enough, and good point on not giving the Old Gods the means to run rampant quite yet.
1) Can we use Miracle on our Zomok to extract enough... "essense" I suppose, of his old body to reconstruct it (or rather, a "generic Green dragon"-form) in the Fleshforge?
Regarding this, we have Felzath's original corpse. We can just use that as a template for a new body for him.
2) Can we utilise the Heart of Ice as a point from which to remake the White Dragons wholesale?
Should be similarly possible, especially considering we have a bunch of original White Dragon corpses in addition to the Heart of Winter.
 
especially considering we have a bunch of original White Dragon corpses
W8 what?
When did we get that?
Wait I thought we could already make true chromatics in the forge?
Kinda? We can make Reds in all forms and shapes.

Iirc, we can experiment and make Chromatics of other kinds.

We cannot, even if we wanted, make Metallics.
No samples, nor do we have the wealth of lore akin to Saenena's life's work back in Valyria.

Ergo me asking, with samples from Felzath and Ice Heart we can have a starting point to make more affronts to Tiamat.
 
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Wait I thought we could already make true chromatics in the forge?
I thought so too, but even if we only unlocked the research for it we can just use templates from existing samples.

Red -- Viserys, Amrelath, Zerlyaz, and to a lesser extent all our Valyrian Dragons
Green -- Felzath Farseer's original corpse
Blue -- Ysandrix
White -- Those five White Dragon Wyrm Wraiths we fought in Thenn Valley when performing the evacuation & the Heart of Winter
W8 what?
When did we get that?
Thenn Valley. The Others kindly provided corpses of White Dragons.
 
By the way, @DragonParadox,
1) Can we use Miracle on our Zomok to extract enough... "essense" I suppose, of his old body to reconstruct it (or rather, a "generic Green dragon"-form) in the Fleshforge?

2) Can we utilise the Heart of Ice as a point from which to remake the White Dragons wholesale?

If you want to remake chromatics Saenena's research is where you want to start, no need me mess with dark artifacts and guardian spirits.

Anyway I have just finished overhauling all sorts of minor plots across the east, mortal and divine. I think I can get one more update in today.
 
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