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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Okay, more seriously, the hammer is propably not something we want to interact with, unless we feel like going mano-a-mano against divine power with Viserys face as our shield again.

[X] Try to destroy it, being ready to teleport out at once

If it blows up, good for us, because it hurts the enemy army much more than ours.
If not, it's at least removed from the battle.
 
Trickster314 said:
Is this altar larger than our head in dragon form? Cause if it isnt we all know the correct vote.

[ :V ] Eat it
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...I failed to push for eating Balerion.
Now we have a larger dragon to eat an Altar for us.
I will not fail again.
[X] Artemis1992
[Х] Have Balerion eat the altar and slurp up any power he cannot handle through our soul-connection.
this is a shitpost with a serious face, ergo fake "X", don't mind meh
 
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egoo said:
...I failed to push for eating Balerion.
Now we have a larger dragon to eat an Altar for us.
I will not fail again.
[X] Artemis1992
[Х] Have Balerion eat the altar and slurp up any power he cannot handle through our soul-connection.
this is a shitpost with a serious face, ergo fake "X", don't mind meh
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I like how you think my friend, Balerion's larger head should mean he will be able to consume larger energy fields safely. Probably....
 
[X] Crake

I'm trying to think of the best precautions we can take.
 
Crake said:
I guess boosts to Will saves? The bonus we get to the opposed Strength check is pretty crazy already due to CHARISMA.
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Maybe have Viserys Miracle a Surge of Fortune, then Dany raises a Wall of Mithral and Lya a Prismatic Wall just as Viserys beings the hammer down, while everyone is ready to Teleport to safety if defensive measures aren't sufficient.
 
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Crake said:
I guess boosts to Will saves?
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See below:
egoo said:
Viserys' 'base' Willsave = 25 + 6 (Dany's Persistomancy, Morale) +6 (Channel Vigor - Spirit, Competence) +1d6 (Mythic Surge) = 37+1d6

Surge of Fortune (discharged prematurely, allows nat 20) = +20.
Grand Destiny (consuming 1/4 charges)= +4.
Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy) = +6.
Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier) +12 Luck
Moment of Prescience (equal to CL, cast through Wild Arcana while under effect of Harmonic Chorus = 24) = +24 Insight
Visions of the Future (discharged prematurely, allows half CL as sacred bonus) = +11 Sacred (via Wild Arcana)
Owl's Insight (+10 Wis insight = +5 Will)
Item of Empty Mind, (ML 15) = +10 Untyped

Total possible Willsave at this moment: 128+1d6, 2 rerolls avaliable, Mindblank, Psionic Mindblank
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[X] Miracle a Surge of Fortune, then Dany raises a Wall of Mithral and Lya a Prismatic Wall just as Viserys beings the hammer down, while everyone is ready to Teleport to safety if defensive measures aren't sufficient.
-[X] Discharge your Crystal Charm of Empty Mind for a +9 untyped bonus to Will saves, then use Crushing Hand to take control of the hammer and turn its power against the altar itself.

@egoo That'll take way too long.
 
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Crake said:
[X] Miracle a Surge of Fortune, then Dany raises a Wall of Mithral and Lya a Prismatic Wall just as Viserys beings the hammer down, while everyone is ready to Teleport to safety if defensive measures aren't sufficient.
-[X] Discharge your Crystal Charm of Empty Mind for a +9 untyped bonus to Will saves, then use Crushing Hand to take control of the hammer and turn its power against the altar itself.

@egoo That'll take way too long.
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I'm not totally against this, but where do you see the advantage compared to taking it up by hand?
We are effectivly still touching it, I don't think magic will be a sufficient barrier to the basic intent here.
And there is not much difference in symbolism either, to taking it by hand and then smashing the altar. Though I admit for the latter part being a bit away is a good idea.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I'm not totally against this, but where do you see the advantage compared to taking it up by hand?
We are effectivly still touching it, I don't think magic will be a sufficient barrier to the basic intent here.
And there is not much difference in symbolism either, to taking it by hand and then smashing the altar. Though I admit for the latter part being a bit away is a good idea.
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That's just the thing, I expect the curse inlaid into it to still be in full effect, but being able to smash it from farther away is still useful to us. Also, I'm pretty sure we can leverage more brute force through Crushing Hand than even with a huge-sized draconic limb, but don't quote me on that. The Charisma bonus to the roll is pretty large, and it's on top of a good strength bonus.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I'm not totally against this, but where do you see the advantage compared to taking it up by hand?
We are effectivly still touching it, I don't think magic will be a sufficient barrier to the basic intent here.
And there is not much difference in symbolism either, to taking it by hand and then smashing the altar. Though I admit for the latter part being a bit away is a good idea.
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Distance mainly, and the Mithral and Prismatic Walls between the altar and us. There are a few really bad effects that no one wants to be close to, like a Retributive Strike similar to that generated by a destroyed Staff of the Magi.
 
It probably wont matter, but it might matter.

Which makes the rest of the plans lack of caution weird.

[X] Try to destroy it, being ready to teleport out at once
 
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Crake said:
That's just the thing, I expect the curse inlaid into it to still be in full effect, but being able to smash it from farther away is still useful to us. Also, I'm pretty sure we can leverage more brute force through Crushing Hand than even with a huge-sized draconic limb, but don't quote me on that. The Charisma bonus to the roll is pretty large, and it's on top of a good strength bonus.
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But if we take the Hammer, the centerpiece of the whole thing, up, it might not be necessary to smash the altar after all.
So I would first try that, regardless of hand or Crushing Hand, and only then decide what to do with the hammer.

Again, if we pick it up at all, rather than just destroying the altar from further away.
 
Oh smashing the Altar with the hammer will definetly maim the god attached to it. Almost to the degree that the original plan for Aegon would have. Probably while also giving Viserys another mythic rank.

Were just going to die if we dont do everything we can to prepare and get lucky.
 
Artemis1992 said:
But if we take the Hammer, the centerpiece of the whole thing, up, it might not be necessary to smash the altar after all.
So I would first try that, regardless of hand or Crushing Hand, and only then decide what to do with the hammer.

Again, if we pick it up at all, rather than just destroying the altar from further away.
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If the effect is that immediate, would we not be able to intuit that regardless of our intent? We're only trying to destroy the altar because we believe that its the centerpiece of whatever is going on, with the hammer just being an important component to it. Smash the altar, smash the army.

Edit: I don't want this thing to take two updates based off common sense "gotcha!" from @DragonParadox. Either Viserys makes his wisdom save or he doesn't.

Edit2: Fuck it, fine, editing if that's what it'll take.
 
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[X] Miracle a Surge of Fortune, then Dany raises a Wall of Mithral and Lya a Prismatic Wall just as Viserys beings the hammer down, while everyone is ready to Teleport to safety if defensive measures aren't sufficient.
-[X] Discharge your Crystal Charm of Empty Mind for a +9 untyped bonus to Will saves, then use Crushing Hand to take control of the hammer. Monitor the effects of successfully picking it up with your magic. If you only have a split second to make a decision due to a latent curse on the object, turn its power against the altar. If nothing noticeable happens, evaluate from there.

Edit: Feel like we're wasting our fucking time when this isn't even the last battle we'll be having this month. Worst feeling ever.
 
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