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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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egoo said:
So, we have the following forces staying in SD if we don't assign them anywhere:
21 Heralds,
10 Erynies
1x Adamantine Golem (CR 19 + 1 level Monk),
1x Hadhayosh (CR 20),
5x Guardian Nagas
68x Elemental Wyrmlings (Acid [x8], Cold [x8], Electricity [x8], Fire [x62]
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1x Moonchaser-class ship (w/4 Type A Wyverns),
7x Type A Wyverns,
8x Type B Wyverns,
1x Manticore Fighter-Bomber
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14x Aureate Seawyrms - Advanced Half-Dragon Sea Serpent (CR 15, HD 15)
4x Shadebreacher Sperm Whales - Advanced Shadow Animal Sperm Whales (CR 12, HD 15)
9x Grand Dragon Turtles - Giant Mighty Dragon Turtles (CR 15, HD 12) -
8x Fiery Dragonbeasts - Advanced Fiery Gigantean Half-Dragon Drakenbeasts (CR15)
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1006x Giant Fungal Darkenbeasts
220x Verdant Kingfisher (CR 2, 2 HD)
22x Plant-Imbued Shadow Creature Cat (w/+4 Racial HD) (CR 6, 6 HD)
22x Advanced Sorcerer Creature Snapdragon Leshy (w/+8 Racial HD) (CR 10, 14 HD)
22x Verdant Raven [Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Raven (w/+4 Racial HD)] (CR 6, 6 HD)
29x Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshy
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45 Advanced Aquatic Snapdragon Leshy (w/+4 Racial HD) (CR 6, 10 HD)
41 Plant-Imbued Coral Drake (CR 10, 11 HD)
20 Aquatic Cleric Creature Jesulan (CR 10, 12 HD)
95 Plant-Imbued Electric Eel (w/+6 Racial HD) (CR 6, 10 HD)
23 Bladeleaf Plant-Imbued Sea Cats (w/+3 Racial HD) (CR 8, 8 HD)
67x Advanced Plant-Imbued Gigantean Manta Ray (CR 6, 12 HD)
850x Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Hippocampus (CR 6, 2 HD)
121x Advanced Druid Creature Seaweed Leshy (CR 6, 4 HD)
20x Advanced Plant-Imbued Sea Drake (CR 10, 7 HD)
90x Advanced Plant-Imbued Orca (CR 8, 9 HD)
18x Advanced Plant-Imbued Druid Creature Orca (CR 10, 9 HD)
30x Amphibious Quickling Vinespawn (CR10, 12 HD)
Mind, these are Free Forces. The sort we can re-assign somewhere at a moment's notice, not the ones already guarding anything.
SD is fine.
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We only ever grew 5 of the Aureate Seawyrms. Definitely not 14 of them.

We should have those 5 available, plus 8 of our Seawyrms which aren't assigned anywhere. I think you accidentally combined them?
 
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Goldfish said:
We only ever grew 5 of the Aureate Seawyrms. Definitely not 14 of them.

We should have those 5 available, plus 8 of our Seawyrms which aren't assigned anywhere. I think you accidentally combined them?
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...you know what, whatever, I'm not interested in going through all those lists of creatures we ever made again.
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...so, uh, any ideas where to put Viserys, Richard and Mereth, y'all?

I mean, we could do a full month mostly through interludes, while Viserys does court things...
If nothing else, beats doing subterfuge as far as I'm concerned.
 
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egoo said:
...so, uh, any ideas where to put Viserys, Richard and Merethm y'all?
I mean, we could do a full month mostly through interludes, while Viserys does court things...
If nothing else, beats doing subterfuge as far as I'm concerned.
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There's no lack of places they could go, that's for sure.

After the Sarnor action, we could just move about as the situation dictates. They could poke around in Westeros, of course. Beyond just diplomancing folks, there is always something going on that we might want to dig into, from happenings in Oldtown, what's going on in the Westerlands, the forces available to the Golden Shields, etc. If not needed elsewhere, maybe they could help with the Genie war effort?

They can also serve as roving troubleshooters, moving to assist other groups on assignment as needed. Just because they might be overleveled for a particular scenario doesn't mean they can't pitch in. Digging out Abraxxus' cult in Lorath wouldn't be a bad use of their time.
 
Goldfish said:
Digging out Abraxxus' cult in Lorath wouldn't be a bad use of their time.
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Inquisition said they don't need Companion-grade hands on the field, and I'm inclined to believe them.
Hell, we can't risk losing out on the shenanigans of a pair of a Mind and Myrk-dragons playing investigators while a Herald is forced to babysit! :o
[:V]

I suppose troubleshooting isn't bad, but it feels... unfocused. Like, a lot.
Not a good thing for narrative.

We are getting all the info Marwyn has to share at the end of the month, along with his and his' companions levels, right, @DragonParadox?
 
egoo said:
Inquisition said they don't need Companion-grade hands on the field, and I'm inclined to believe them.
Hell, we can't risk losing out on the shenanigans of a pair of a Mind and Myrk-dragons playing investigators while a Herald is forced to babysit! :o
[:V]
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Herald: "Do you see this?" It gestures at its wingtips. "I am going gray! Why am I going gray? I'll tell you why! It's those two menaces over there! I'm not getting paid enough for this..."
 
Don't we have a dungeon which is not important enough yet it would be nice if we did?

Like that place in the Plane of Fire with a lot of Divs?
 
Greetings Comrades.
I started reading this quest in February, it took me headlong. At first, I still tried to use only the reading mode, but quickly realized that you need to read everything ... And I still read only 3/4 of the quest.

To begin with, I want to express HUGE thanks to everyone who worked on this project, I saw how much effort DragonParadox and other participants put into it. I really wanted not to get into the discussion until the moment I read the quest completely, so as not to catch the spoilers. But I'll speak now, because I'm not sure that I will read further. I understand that for everyone I'm just an unfamiliar dude, besides raising a long-forgotten topic, but I really exploded.

I got to the point of moralizing and voting to limit the Inquisition ... are you out of your mind? Seriously??? Thinking about the rights of cultists is very nice, but where are the thoughts about those whom they killed in the past and can kill in the future? But what about their rights ???

There is a very good example from our lives when religious fanatics kill people, and special services say that they have been following them for a long time ... but did nothing. So tell me in which part of the quest Viziris will pass along the main street of the capital holding hands with all its partners in memory of the victims of the terrorists?

What the discussion that was forgotten by all was about is not a question of "good" or "evil", and not even "order" and "chaos". This is a matter of responsibility and irresponsibility. The ruler is responsible for the safety of his citizens, and he is OBLIGED to eliminate demon fans or use sabotage and political killings abroad. This is responsible. To think about the rights of religious terrorists, and to minimize the losses of your enemies, so that then you can pay for the burial of your subjects irresponsibly!

I try very hard to be restrained and correct, but it is given to me with great difficulty, so I apologize in advance if I offended someone. But I really liked this quest and such a turn was just like a hit for me.
 
Well, discussion's as dead as I expected.
@Crake, anything on economic/strategic level? Here's the latest proposal for character-actions so far.
 
Thinking about what interlude to do while you guys debate the turn plan. Ideas include:
  1. A discussion of law and politics between Kyla, Ysilla and Ysandryx between inquisitorial agent missions
  2. Lynesse Hightower considers an odd art commission
  3. Saladhor Saan has a fun night on the town with some less than holy company
What strikes you guys as most interesting?
 
DragonParadox said:
Thinking about what interlude to do while you guys debate the turn plan. Ideas include:
  1. A discussion of law and politics between Kyla, Ysilla and Ysandryx between inquisitorial agent missions
  2. Lynesse Hightower considers an odd art commission
  3. Saladhor Saan has a fun night on the town with some less than holy company
What strikes you guys as most interesting?
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I wouldn't mind seeing all three. #1 seems like it has the most potential for entertainment, though.
 
Tomcost said:
*Sighs with relief*

You said that the ones who came with us were the crazy ones, so anything could happen
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In a sense they are the idealists, or what passes for such among the Baatezu. They think the world can change, or at the very elast that it's worth dying for something other than what they have pledged themselves to long ago. That does not mean they don't see through Saan like a pane of Myrish glass.
 
Sapphon said:
Greetings Comrades.
I started reading this quest in February, it took me headlong. At first, I still tried to use only the reading mode, but quickly realized that you need to read everything ... And I still read only 3/4 of the quest.

To begin with, I want to express HUGE thanks to everyone who worked on this project, I saw how much effort DragonParadox and other participants put into it. I really wanted not to get into the discussion until the moment I read the quest completely, so as not to catch the spoilers. But I'll speak now, because I'm not sure that I will read further. I understand that for everyone I'm just an unfamiliar dude, besides raising a long-forgotten topic, but I really exploded.

I got to the point of moralizing and voting to limit the Inquisition ... are you out of your mind? Seriously??? Thinking about the rights of cultists is very nice, but where are the thoughts about those whom they killed in the past and can kill in the future? But what about their rights ???

There is a very good example from our lives when religious fanatics kill people, and special services say that they have been following them for a long time ... but did nothing. So tell me in which part of the quest Viziris will pass along the main street of the capital holding hands with all its partners in memory of the victims of the terrorists?

What the discussion that was forgotten by all was about is not a question of "good" or "evil", and not even "order" and "chaos". This is a matter of responsibility and irresponsibility. The ruler is responsible for the safety of his citizens, and he is OBLIGED to eliminate demon fans or use sabotage and political killings abroad. This is responsible. To think about the rights of religious terrorists, and to minimize the losses of your enemies, so that then you can pay for the burial of your subjects irresponsibly!

I try very hard to be restrained and correct, but it is given to me with great difficulty, so I apologize in advance if I offended someone. But I really liked this quest and such a turn was just like a hit for me.
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Worry not. It is limiting senseless violence and suffering (because it tends to damn you to hell), and also giving cultists the opportunity to renounce their dark patrons before execution, negating the dark powers from their souls.

They still get judged and executed by their crimes
 
Sapphon said:
Greetings Comrades.
I started reading this quest in February, it took me headlong. At first, I still tried to use only the reading mode, but quickly realized that you need to read everything ... And I still read only 3/4 of the quest.

To begin with, I want to express HUGE thanks to everyone who worked on this project, I saw how much effort DragonParadox and other participants put into it. I really wanted not to get into the discussion until the moment I read the quest completely, so as not to catch the spoilers. But I'll speak now, because I'm not sure that I will read further. I understand that for everyone I'm just an unfamiliar dude, besides raising a long-forgotten topic, but I really exploded.

I got to the point of moralizing and voting to limit the Inquisition ... are you out of your mind? Seriously??? Thinking about the rights of cultists is very nice, but where are the thoughts about those whom they killed in the past and can kill in the future? But what about their rights ???

There is a very good example from our lives when religious fanatics kill people, and special services say that they have been following them for a long time ... but did nothing. So tell me in which part of the quest Viziris will pass along the main street of the capital holding hands with all its partners in memory of the victims of the terrorists?

What the discussion that was forgotten by all was about is not a question of "good" or "evil", and not even "order" and "chaos". This is a matter of responsibility and irresponsibility. The ruler is responsible for the safety of his citizens, and he is OBLIGED to eliminate demon fans or use sabotage and political killings abroad. This is responsible. To think about the rights of religious terrorists, and to minimize the losses of your enemies, so that then you can pay for the burial of your subjects irresponsibly!

I try very hard to be restrained and correct, but it is given to me with great difficulty, so I apologize in advance if I offended someone. But I really liked this quest and such a turn was just like a hit for me.
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Welcome to the quest! I hope you've enjoyed the ride so far. There's plenty more where that came from.

As @Tomcost explained, we didn't decide to go all sunshine and puppies on cultists. Morality debates are one of our shortcomings here, as they occasionally crop up with little warning and can get fairly contentious, but they eventually settle back down and we get past it.

Looking forward to you joining us when you finish catching up.
 
Sapphon said:
Greetings Comrades.
I started reading this quest in February, it took me headlong. At first, I still tried to use only the reading mode, but quickly realized that you need to read everything ... And I still read only 3/4 of the quest.

To begin with, I want to express HUGE thanks to everyone who worked on this project, I saw how much effort DragonParadox and other participants put into it. I really wanted not to get into the discussion until the moment I read the quest completely, so as not to catch the spoilers. But I'll speak now, because I'm not sure that I will read further. I understand that for everyone I'm just an unfamiliar dude, besides raising a long-forgotten topic, but I really exploded.

I got to the point of moralizing and voting to limit the Inquisition ... are you out of your mind? Seriously??? Thinking about the rights of cultists is very nice, but where are the thoughts about those whom they killed in the past and can kill in the future? But what about their rights ???

There is a very good example from our lives when religious fanatics kill people, and special services say that they have been following them for a long time ... but did nothing. So tell me in which part of the quest Viziris will pass along the main street of the capital holding hands with all its partners in memory of the victims of the terrorists?

What the discussion that was forgotten by all was about is not a question of "good" or "evil", and not even "order" and "chaos". This is a matter of responsibility and irresponsibility. The ruler is responsible for the safety of his citizens, and he is OBLIGED to eliminate demon fans or use sabotage and political killings abroad. This is responsible. To think about the rights of religious terrorists, and to minimize the losses of your enemies, so that then you can pay for the burial of your subjects irresponsibly!

I try very hard to be restrained and correct, but it is given to me with great difficulty, so I apologize in advance if I offended someone. But I really liked this quest and such a turn was just like a hit for me.
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Don't worry, that vote was stupid, and a lot of it is being walked back. Cultists get precisely one chance at redemption if we feel like it. Even the ones that are pardoned are earmarked for sacrifice at even the slightest slip up.

None of this bullshit of sending cultists to the Wall anymore, either.

@egoo, I'm reading your plan right now.

1. You don't need to leave Relath and Riz'Neth out of adventure planning. They have subordinates who can take over for them, and with everything going on we kind of need them both to grow in power. Maybe put them in Qohor as backup?
2. Same with Yrael. He has subordinates who can take over duties temporarily, and he can be of use on a mission. Maybe the Plane of Fire or something. He's got fire immunity.
3. Isn't Benerro working on enhancing that ritual for us? The one he used to trap N'Gath, Herald of Ymeri? We need that ready to put around our anti-Efreeti fortress to trap all the Efreeti in that limited area so they don't scatter throughout Prime Material.
2. I feel like Viserys, Mereth, and Ser Richard should be put in Qohor as well this turn. I would have said Slaver's Bay, but Slaver's Bay is already on overkill and this group's effort is better spent elsewhere. May as well make sure that Shub Niggurath isn't working on a doomsday scenario.
 
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