Just woke up. Curse my need for sleep! This was never an issue in the Far Realm.

I'm not sure these are the beings we should be trying to convince to use Undead. At least not without a bit of research before making an offer. We could send the Plant servitors to learn the lay of the land and gain an understanding of just how desperate the defenders of the Celestial realms are and how likely they would be to accept non-traditional assistance.

@DragonParadox, it's one thing to convince Westerosi lords to use some of our Lead-Clad Soulforged Undead, but it's another entirely to convince Outsiders from the Celestial Planes to do so. Is that something we can reasonably do without causing them to immediately balk and tell us to piss off? On the one hand, Undead aren't exactly popular among the Good-aligned Outsiders, but on the other, they're in a "beggars can't be choosers" situation and likely desperate for whatever aid they can get.
Reminder here that Euron Greyjoy is working as a mercenary for Good Outsiders in Elysium. Undead are a giant step up in comparison to him.
Point on Euron being there. Also considering their greatest threat is Deep Ones I think they'd have started to use Undead themselves.
 
What we need to do is blood our legions. So they can get some levels under their belt. You know, since they need to hold against ithilids.
The legions will not be taking much, if any, part in the Illithid-war.

We'll likely focus on mercenaries, flesh-forged servitors and Gith hitmen as ground forces, and Companion-based elite groups for actual ventures into their territory (with heavy Moonchaser-class and Wyvern support whenever possible).

While I agree that the Legions should be getting trained and buffed the shit of, we only can do so much before the diminishing returns.
And with mortal armies those are quick to start.
 
The legions will not be taking much, if any, part in the Illithid-war.

We'll likely focus on mercenaries, flesh-forged servitors and Gith hitmen as ground forces, and Companion-based elite groups for actual ventures into their territory (with heavy Moonchaser-class and Wyvern support whenever possible).

While I agree that the Legions should be getting trained and buffed the shit of, we only can do so much before the dimijisuing returns.
And with mortal armies those are quick to start.
Thats why i was suggesting we use them to invade the slavers bay, so we can have a company or two of elite legionnaires.
 
Sure, but they will probably have demon reinforcements and blood magic and stuff.
And it being a rofl stomp doesn't really matter. I just want the legionnaires to level.
My point is that rofl-stomps don't give you much fighting experience and from all we've seen, Slavers Bay is running on fumes. They have neither the money nor manpower to fight back anymore.
 
I'd rather look into taking some territory in other planes. The only way for the Legion to learn how to fight planar wars is to do so.

Though the actual Legion will be mostly a garrison anyway.
 
I'd rather look into taking some territory in other planes. The only way for the Legion to learn how to fight planar wars is to do so.

Though the actual Legion will be mostly a garrison anyway.
Use entrenched field positions with magical hardware, like a regular army might. Infantry are good for, as you said, holding and overtaking a position, and essential for logistics of controlling a territory, but the actual fighting... modern militaries use heavy and fast firepower to win.
 
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Use entrenched field positions with magical hardware, like a regular army might. Infantry are good for, as you said, holding and overtaking a position, and essential for logistics of controlling a territory, but the actual fighting... modern militaries use heavy and fast firepower to win.
Thing is, where is "the field" in the first place?

The best deployment scenario for the Legion would be to guard and to a limited extent police cities and other important landmarks, while most military might will be highly mobile units like AG vessels and Teleporting strike-teams.

Landmarks in this context includes supply bases and full military bases.
 
I'd rather look into taking some territory in other planes. The only way for the Legion to learn how to fight planar wars is to do so.

Though the actual Legion will be mostly a garrison anyway.
A better way to train them in it without throwing them into the deep end, would be to negotiate with some of our allies, to deploy Legionaires as reinforcements, for some of their fortresses, that way they would get to try Planar warfare as just assistants, and thereby learn how it's done while having something of a safety net.
 
A better way to train them in it without throwing them into the deep end, would be to negotiate with some of our allies, to deploy Legionaires as reinforcements, for some of their fortresses, that way they would get to try Planar warfare as just assistants, and thereby learn how it's done while having something of a safety net.
Where though? Of the Inner Planes, only earth would be vaguely hospitable to a bunch of ground pounders and even there I see them at a very distinct advantage to the natives, namely being unable to move through solid rock.

In the Upper Planes, we lack the allies and those who are holding ground there would have significant trust issues. Better to take some ground there ourselves, hiring some mercs to bolster forces and then negotiate alliances with others there.
 
An extraplanar base would certainly be nice if we could pull it off. The constant XP grind there would go a long way to preparing the Legion for the coming Long Night.
 
Where though? Of the Inner Planes, only earth would be vaguely hospitable to a bunch of ground pounders and even there I see them at a very distinct advantage to the natives, namely being unable to move through solid rock.

In the Upper Planes, we lack the allies and those who are holding ground there would have significant trust issues. Better to take some ground there ourselves, hiring some mercs to bolster forces and then negotiate alliances with others there.
We are making contact with Elysium now, we are allied with the Githzerai, both of those factions are holding a lot of ground, personally I recommend the Githzerai, we have known them for some time, they trust us, and they are in alliances with multiple fortress cities, that they could help us get our Legionaires stationed at.
 
We are making contact with Elysium now, we are allied with the Githzerai, both of those factions are holding a lot of ground, personally I recommend the Githzerai, we have known them for some time, they trust us, and they are in alliances with multiple fortress cities, that they could help us get our Legionaires stationed at.
You are not getting this whole "caution" and "healthy distrust" thing, am I right?
 
Regardless of trust or distrust, the Legion is not optimal against the Squids anyway. Too many low-willsave mortals, even if we are getting started on the protective banners by now.

If we want our Legionaires to get experience with supernatural foes we are already doing good by building in Sothyros and the Valyrian Border. Another fortess in the ruins of Sarnor would also help.
Of course none of that sees regular army-scale combat, but the soldiers still learn to deal with weird things in patrols and on guard duty.
 
You are not getting this whole "caution" and "healthy distrust" thing, am I right?
I do get it to a degree, but we have been in alliance with the Githzerai for some time now, they trust the Flesh forged beasts we sell them to not be booby trapped, I think we have enough trust with them, to get them, to at least agree to letting a limited number of Legionnaires support them.

As for Elysium, we have Zathir, one of their gods, I think him vouching for us, would go a long way towards them accepting our assistance, even though even with that, stationing Legionnaires with them, should probably wait until at least half a year, after we make contact with them.

But the Githzerai I think we have enough trust with, especially since it's the Nirvana front, which is a desperate enough place, that Celestials are hiring Euron, even after he has enslaved angels.
 
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Part MMMCDXLXV: Songs Old and New
Songs Old and New

Thirtieth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

The bargain is quickly struck. Five and ten of the surviving lillends to teach in the Scholarum and in exchange you would send three leshy atop sea drake partners and a trio of bark-armored giants able to survive in even Elysium's tainted seas to aid them. There had been a bit of trouble deciding who would have command of the ten black knights who would also be part of the expedition, not because the surviving azata realms refused undead servitors, they are too desperate for aid of any sort for that, but simply because beings as intimately devoted to green growing things as the leshy are make poor custodians of the dead. Uneasy like frost on leaves, one of them had struggled to explain.

Thankfully sea drakes are dragon enough to revel in the dominion over the knights so once the hierarchy is set all the remains is to introduce the Scholarum's newest teachers to their colleagues. From the look of things at the reception that evening they will slip right in among the others, mortal and immortal alike.

Their fellow azata and the phoenixes were the most welcoming of course, but the naga also welcomed their cousins and the mortal teachers were not far behind. No less than you had expected of bards and song-smiths, which is not to say no one raised concerns. "Won't they be a touch disruptive?" your mother asks softly. "The world could certainly do with more freedom, parts of Essos especially, but they are likely to train their students to be more critical of the Crown than mortals would be inclined to."

You shrug. "That makes for better songs." Buttercup had proved the entertainment value of abrasiveness beyond a shadow of a doubt at least. "And in any case criticism in moderation helps institutions grow and better themselves just as it does people."

Your mother nods, though she does not seems entirely convinced. "In any case I have been thinking... I could probably teach at the Scholarum for a few moonturns too. Not as dedicated as Lady Teana of course, but as a guest lecturer. It would be rather sad to be the last Dragonsinger. Of all Valyria's mages they seemed the least..."

"Prideful? Willfully blind?" you offer. Both Malarys and Lady Caleris lad been visionaries in their own way, both able to escape the onrushing tide at the last moment, but there had been many more sorcerers in Valyria at the time of its fall with the skill to escape its fate had they paid attention to the signs. The Dragonsingers of Oros by contrast had seen many of the signs from what your mother's dreams showed, but their magic burned less bright against the darkness of the world. Many of them had died in the waning days of the Century of Blood not by sword or fire, but simply the slow march of years catching up to them, the last who remembered the old order falling silent one by one even as they mourned the chaos its death had wrought.

Yet from that chaos a new and hopefully better world will arise, one that could do with the songs of dragonsingers to immortalize once more. "If you want to teach I shan't speak against it mother, I think you would make a wonderful teacher. You were certainly better than Pycelle ever was at teaching me history when I was a child."

"I believe that is called damning with faint praise," she laughs. "An old book half-eaten by mold would likely be a better teacher than him." Her expression turning darker she adds. "I used to wonder how the man ever got as high as he did before I knew he was a puppet of some damnable dragon-hating conspiracy."

"Aye that, I will take possibly impertinent bards over schemers in dark rooms any day," you conclude, motioning at the lillend currently dancing with one of Anu's children, the warforged's comparative clumsiness made moot by the fact that she did not have feet to tread upon and it would probably take more than even the weight of steel feet for her to feel anything through her scales.

A few moments later Ser Bonifer finally works up the courage to invite your mother to dance, leaving you to seek out Lya... Oh, both her bodies are attending, you notice amused at the odd looks the various courtiers were throwing her. The only circumstances under which you would be undecided who to invite to dance.

What do you do next?

[] Get True Names for this month

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OOC: You guys can also combine the true names with an interlude if you can think of a combination that makes sense.
 
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Hmmm.

The warforged are attending court alongside the Lilends and Both of Lyas bodies.

Thats a heartwarming mental image.

[X] Loot the entirety of Mercury Lake in PoE.

Lets see how much exploitation of natural resources can fit on this baby.
 
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