So, ah, seeing as the forge-order has already grown over the "defense efforts"-basis it was originally, are we going to order dedicated companies for actual warfare against the Squids, and not just the guards for important infrastructure/people?

@Azel, @Crake, @Duesal, @Goldfish, @Deliste, any ideas on decent "fleet"-compositions, and what (roughly) number of companies we need per... ah... 5? 7? fronts we'll have?

At the bare minimum, I assume we'll want fast-response orces present all over our shoreline with enough hitting power to clear out either the hordes of chaff or the few elite leaders.

Imma nap now, will fit any additions into the order once awake.
 
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So, ah, seeing as the forge-order has already grown over the "defense efforts"-basis it was originally, are we going to order dedicated companies for actual warfare against the Squids, and not just the guards for important infrastructure/people?

@Azel, @Crake, @Duesal, @Goldfish, @Deliste, any ideas on decent "fleet"-compositions, and what (roughly) number of companies we need per... ah... 5? 7? fronts we'll have?

At the bare minimum, I assume we'll want fast-response orces present all over our shoreline with enough hitting power to clear out either the hordes of chaff or the few elite leaders.

Imma nap now, will fit any additions into the order once awake.
I could see about getting CL 15 and some Greater Teleport on that mold. Then it could teleport itself, it's mount and some assorted minions as a quick response measure to anywhere.

Also, Greater Blood Clot Mold on a Necro-Kraken sounds like something that the squids will enjoy.
 
So, ah, seeing as the forge-order has already grown over the "defense efforts"-basis it was originally, are we going to order dedicated companies for actual warfare against the Squids, and not just the guards for important infrastructure/people?

@Azel, @Crake, @Duesal, @Goldfish, @Deliste, any ideas on decent "fleet"-compositions, and what (roughly) number of companies we need per... ah... 5? 7? fronts we'll have?

At the bare minimum, I assume we'll want fast-response orces present all over our shoreline with enough hitting power to clear out either the hordes of chaff or the few elite leaders.

Imma nap now, will fit any additions into the order once awake.
We've been growing significant orders of aquatic forces, and will continue to do so, in addition to those we grow to protect the Heart Trees. I also expect that we might need to pull some guardian creatures off their regular protection duties and use them elsewhere as a reserve force.

Next month's Forge order is going to be massive. Between beginning to grow the guardians, we've also got enough corpse HD saved up to grow a lot of creatures for free. "Rapid response" will be difficult to manage, though, simply due to the logistics of moving lots of beings quickly. There are a limited number of spells that can do it at all, and the only way we could really do it that allows for a significant force to be moved would be via Imperial Demiplane and a temporary portal Gate created by Viserys. That needs Mythic Power, however, so is limited in uses per day. We'll have to station troops and servitors in coastal cities if we want them to be able to respond quickly, like your "fleets". That won't be hard to do, though.

One possible answer to our need for a rapid response is the Greater Baleful Teleport spell. DP said Lya can create it as a new 8th level spell. I want her second body to research it next month so that the month after we can build my Teleportation Chamber. Once that is ready, we'll be able to send strike forces anywhere in the world in seconds.
 
Siblings of the Scorned
Twenty Second Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

Daela Taelreon, Head of her House and one who had profited handsomely from taking risks and gained favor by it as much as any venturesome trade magnate or the numerous colorful personalities of martial bearing in the King's service, let the inches-thick facade of stoic resolution fade from her face the very moment she retreated from court politics in the stately halls of power among Archon's Palace, protecting her family's interests there had been for some time now wrapped up on some level with the unofficial 'alliance" she had struck up with House Targaryen, the better to keep them better abreast of matters in the city and to put a word in the right ear here or there when necessary. She knew in her mind that it was more charity on their part, on some level, but she tried to make herself useful lest they become more of a nuisance or worse, a liability.

It had like as not been disregarded by the King that his minor shows of favor were like currency, social capital at the least, which could not be extracted from the whipped backs of slaves or even by means of trade or pilfered off merchants. Many Tyroshi notables had not risen to the occasion, had not learned how to make their means of living viable in a changed world, and many had paid for it, either in blood or coin. Many of her first allies were among these, the ones with an ounce of reason or less likely sense, and from there she had managed to turn a precarious position on the edge of total ruination into one of security, even peace... in a manner of speaking.

She clutched the sealed letter in her hand, dithering over whether or not to send it. Curse these shaking hands, she thought again, not for the first time, even after everything that had happened, after the madness had winded down nearly a year later, all the changes and the things she had learned, dozens of small kindnesses and words of encouragement from the man who had cast her father down could not erase the love she felt for him, she was close to him, more so she out of all her siblings who could even stand to speak of him, or speak at all, she could not understand the hate in his eyes then, the last look he ever gave her, the last words he ever spoke to her poison and bile. Like a dream one could not wake from.

How she wished with all her heart that things could be different, but she could not mend what had been broken any more than he could unmake his own mistakes, and it did her family no good to try changing it either.

Her sister was a shrinking thing now, hardly ever going outside, not even near fully recovered from the things those men did to her. Daela was of gentle heart. She did not even consider a time where she would lift a hand to hurt someone, call them names or complain openly where it might bring shame on her father who was supposedly among the mightiest of Tyrosh's great families, though she had learned how hollow that had all been in the end. But she very much wished she could have taken a knife to each of their throats after the shock had worn off and being forced to live this life the only way she knew how, unable to help the people she cared about.

Daelon was... different now. He wanted to become a soldier, no, a knight, one of the sunset land's entrusted warriors, at least at first, but that had more to do with the fancy of a child who had been rescued from certain death by one. Rather than resent King Viserys for placing her over him in succession of Taelreon's remaining fortunes and holdings, he was relieved, because it meant he could chase whatever mad fancy took him next... only was it really mad?

She didn't have as many excuses to keep him back from joining the local Scholarum branch if he wanted to learn magic, if he even could, not like when he begged her to go off to Sorcerer's Deep like so many others had. She had asked herself how much of her family she wanted to give up to King Viserys in order to keep the peace they had won, how much she was willing to sacrifice, not out of any resentment for the man who had unwittingly saved their family, given they would not have survived had those cultists had their way in the end. But because she was just... so very tired.

Daelon stood at the balcony of their palatial manse in the city, another thing that had changed. She kept hold of the estates in the countryside, it held too many fond memories to give it up and it was one of the few places that her sister Maraelle felt safe, but this had been an acquisition that in her mind coincided with their turning fortunes. "What's wrong, Daelon?" She winced as he flinched, a guilty look flashing across his face briefly before it became impassive, something he had picked up over the years, the first tell that he had something to hide. He and Marae were as thick as thieves before the city had changed hands... before their lives were ripped apart and sewn back together again. What would my mother do? She thought, what would she say in my place?

She wasn't her mother, wasn't as smart or charming and full of life, she had her looks but that was all, that and her luck. How else could she explain everything else fortune had favored them with? A hollow laugh wanted to tear its way out of her throat at the thought. She couldn't even get her brother to look her in the eye anymore.

"Promise you won't be mad..." he spoke up, surprising her. He had never done that before. Usually he would just sulk if they argued even a little.

She clumsily stumbled through half an apology before interrupting herself. More firmly, she replied, "Daelon, never be afraid to speak your mind." She cut herself off before she said any more, seeing the beginnings of a scowl floating to his face as he likely imagined her next words, 'I just want to help you' or 'I would never be angry'. That seemed to imply she could only be disappointed by him, apparently, as it took the Queen Mother quite a bit of time to explain the one time she had run into them in the Palace on some task. Luckily she had the presence of mind to call her minders off, as they had more than likely seen off many a leech in the past, or she never would have gotten the advice that helped turned things around with her siblings.

"I want to go study, sister... plenty of other boys my age are already learning at their fathers feet or surrounded by wise men." He lifted his chin when she made to speak, likely remembering her offer to hire him some tutors. "People say things about you behind your back when I'm here... you're making things worse." The words were a knife through the heart, and she clammed up, nails digging red lines through small pale hands. Those shook, still, she noted distantly. "I hate it. I hate that they call you a thief and a... p-plenty of other bad stuff, and I can't do anything about it or they just laugh and turn it back on me, call me weak. And because I'm here, you can't focus on helping Maraelle get better after... that." He cut himself off, amethyst eyes glaring through dark bangs, the last of the blue dye washed away from them.

She hadn't paid much attention to it before, but she realized he didn't want to be recognized for Tyroshi nobility. And why should he, when he sees how much good the title and pomp had done him and others before, she thought darkly.

"Time for... Daelon I'm not trying to ignore either of you. I just want you to be happy..." she hated how pitiful that made her sound. If she had to choose, if it would make him happy, she would give the title back to him, make him Lord Daelon in truth and she just a fixture in the background, maybe helping things run smooth or coaxing him into finding a future wife, to both run his life and make him miserable. A weak smile graced her face at the thought, she was so distracted with her own misery she hadn't heard Daelon walk up to her. He wrapped her in an embrace and she sank into it, weak-kneed as ever. "I can't do this alone, Daelon," she whispered. "Please don't make me."

"I'm not getting rid of you and you're not getting rid of me," he said with surprising strength. "But I think its best if we aren't together all of the time. I can always visit, far-striding stones don't cost that much, not when we're this rich. When you're this rich. You rule here. You can fix things for Maraelle, make her feel safe here, and if not I'll come back and help but this time with magic. Or if I'm completely rubbish at that, I'll learn how to fight and trade and sneak or whatever else we need, and help that way." He seemed stuck on the idea that he had to be strong or resourceful to matter, but if she was being honest with herself, no more than she should he force that responsibility onto his own shoulders.

Father was supposed to rule here, she thought, now if only he hadn't thrown it all away. She never thought 'what might Father do', anymore, she had learned enough of that to guess at glance what it would be.

She looked out over his shoulder, to the dark of night cast away by the thousands of lanterns of witch-light and cold fire that glittered before them, Tyrosh never seeming so calm as now, the bustle of hundreds of thousands of freedmen mingled with the functionaries, the ones who worked later into the evening or just ending their shifts, to the greycloaks who kept everything in perfect order, or as near perfect as things could be in Tyrosh. As in practice that was more toward the eyes of the beholder than anything else. Men and women of status shrank away to closer and closer circles, no longer knowing how far they could throw their weight around with so many people with authority difficult to gauge, above or below them, they couldn't just order them about anymore, they're King's Men, she thought, her closeness to his faction here had made her no stranger to the notion.

"...alright. You can go. But! Not yet." She nearly giggled when he stood back in affront, a protest dying on his lips as he considered that was the closest she had ever gotten to assent on the matter. "You're still really young, Daelon, and nothing those pests are saying about me matters, half of them need me!" She laughed at his surprise, and the fact perhaps he hadn't realized that many of those gossips were being paid by her in one thing or another. "I can take care of myself, but you're not going to run off trying to solve all our problems before you're old enough to dress yourself without coming out as a mess."

He shuffled, offering a weak retort, "I don't need maids to get dressed... anymore. I've learned lots of things. "

"I know," she said fondly, settling down with him by the crystal lattice windows and taking in the view with him, the rich tiled roofs of the buildings below neatly arrayed row by row. "You're the only one who can coax Marae out of her shell now, though. Give her another six months, help me get her back to the way things were before, or closer to it. In the meantime, I don't even know if I have the political capital to get you a placement in the local Scholarum, who knows how far off we'll have to send you to get schooling? Volantis?" Her nose wrinkled at the thought of him not only being that far away but surrounded by strangers she couldn't trust. "You might be waiting awhile."

He scoffed, arms crossing mulishly, "It's not that hard to apply, I heard they have trouble finding enough applicants who know higher forms of script and can do sums on top of it. A proper noble is practically a steal for them, considering all the commoners who have taken up magic already." He shook his head for a wonder. "I guess the King was right when he told the Court to 'fuck off' when they complained about freedmen taking up magic here. Since if there's more people who can take up magic then they're not that important, right?" He smirked at her scandalized expression, when had he started cursing?

"Sorry," he murmured, laying his head on her shoulder after weathering five minutes of admonishment. "I just can't stand them."

"We'll get through this, somehow," she replied, and for a moment, there with each other and their own thoughts and worries set aside, she really believed it.
Neat character piece, dude. I haven't thought about the Archon of Tyrosh's kids in a good long while. I'm glad to see they've held together as well as they have and that none of them resent us for the fate of their idiot father. I hope Daelon ends up in the SD Scholarium.
 
One possible answer to our need for a rapid response is the Greater Baleful Teleport spell. DP said Lya can create it as a new 8th level spell. I want her second body to research it next month so that the month after we can build my Teleportation Chamber. Once that is ready, we'll be able to send strike forces anywhere in the world in seconds.
Now it just needs some kind of Gacha mechanic to summon new guardians...

Wait, throwing crafting materials into a Flesh Forge... that's a Gacha mechanic.

So you could call next month's forge order a... Grand Order.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 22, 2020 at 7:00 AM, finished with 111 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Bluntly ask him why he thinks that the faith who governs mages should be that of the Seven. He has just seen the work of other gods themselves, so why them and not the Old Gods? Or Rh'llor? Or the goddess of the Moonsingers?
    -[X] Ask him to visit all temples in the Deep while he stays and to speak with all their priests. We will continue this talk when he has done so.
    [X] Plan Gods are fickle
    -[X] "Gods are formed of belief, shaped by the prayers of men. The mage-empires of Earth and Air do not count Gods the pillar of their laws, for Gods can be shaped and twisted both by mighty sorcerers and the plots of archdevils beguiling the faithful. A mortal ruler can at least be counted free of mind and will, while a God is always yoked to the prayers of the masses - and the masses can be led at need".
    -[X] "In any case, asking the mages of the east to bow before the priests of a minor western faith will breed resentment and war. The Red Priests are the largest faith in this world - why should they be made inferior to the Seven? The Old Gods fight to save mankind from extinction - why should their faithful be made to heed the words of tree-burners? How can I justify one faith standing above another, when both Gods are proven to exist and can speak to me at need?"
 
I've always believed that actual large-scale warfare against the squids was rather foolish. Making swarms of minions is good (it's more defenses for our cities and coastlines, etc) but IMO the true path to victory against the Deep One presence on Planetos will necessarily involve WMDs and WMD research.
 
I've always believed that actual large-scale warfare against the squids was rather foolish. Making swarms of minions is good (it's more defenses for our cities and coastlines, etc) but IMO the true path to victory against the Deep One presence on Planetos will necessarily involve WMDs and WMD research.
I could also imagine that we can personally kill enough of the valuable Squids and Aboleths, maybe threaten the Brain itself.
Those are losses the Deep Ones cannot easily replace, unlike the regular fodder and occasional experiment, so it might eventually force a retreat.
 
I've always believed that actual large-scale warfare against the squids was rather foolish. Making swarms of minions is good (it's more defenses for our cities and coastlines, etc) but IMO the true path to victory against the Deep One presence on Planetos will necessarily involve WMDs and WMD research.
i agree. we know at least where most of their forteresses are including i think the main Sahaugin production facility
 
Those are losses the Deep Ones cannot easily replace, unlike the regular fodder and occasional experiment, so it might eventually force a retreat.

Or send several Legion's worth of elite units from the Elder Brain's personal retinue, kept in the vaults of Nirvana because of our annoying attacks.
 
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Or send several Legion's worth of elite units from the Elder Brain's personal retinue, kept in the vaults of Nirvana because of our annoying attacks.
If they redirect troops from Nirvana the Angels and Gith will push them all the harder there.

Right now they have an advantage because their facilities on the Material Plane are safe and can produce minions and war-material for their other conflicts.
If we start putting the pressure on them here they will have to start prioritizing between here and Nirvana.
 
That's overestimating what we can manage I think. additionally, we haven't been actively spending PC time on finding their bases, we have no guarantee we actually got all of them, or that critical things haven't moved.

Even if we accept the premise that we can actually win elites vs. elites fight, which is a strong claim to make when we don't even know what they have yet, they'd still drown the imperium in numbers.

Surprise and WMDs will be critical to the war effort, but I still expect them to Atlantis a city or two even if we somehow pull off an insane first strike victory.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 22, 2020 at 7:00 AM, finished with 111 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Bluntly ask him why he thinks that the faith who governs mages should be that of the Seven. He has just seen the work of other gods themselves, so why them and not the Old Gods? Or Rh'llor? Or the goddess of the Moonsingers?
    -[X] Ask him to visit all temples in the Deep while he stays and to speak with all their priests. We will continue this talk when he has done so.
    [X] Plan Gods are fickle
    -[X] "Gods are formed of belief, shaped by the prayers of men. The mage-empires of Earth and Air do not count Gods the pillar of their laws, for Gods can be shaped and twisted both by mighty sorcerers and the plots of archdevils beguiling the faithful. A mortal ruler can at least be counted free of mind and will, while a God is always yoked to the prayers of the masses - and the masses can be led at need".
    -[X] "In any case, asking the mages of the east to bow before the priests of a minor western faith will breed resentment and war. The Red Priests are the largest faith in this world - why should they be made inferior to the Seven? The Old Gods fight to save mankind from extinction - why should their faithful be made to heed the words of tree-burners? How can I justify one faith standing above another, when both Gods are proven to exist and can speak to me at need?"
 
Part MMMCDV: Of Faith and Family
Of Faith and Family

Twenty Second Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

"Why should the faith that governs sorcery be that of the Seven and not some other power?" you ask after a moment. "You have seen with your own eyes the work of other gods, seen them work against the enemy of all even. Why not the Old Gods to guide mortal mages along their own virtues?"

Before he can answer Dany adds just as bluntly though not unkindly. "And if you were to ask a man of Tyrosh or Lys he would likely answer that it is the Red God who should watch over those who dabble in magic, for did His priests not keep some fragment of the art alive even when so much else burned down to embers? Everyone who trusts a god or power with the keeping of their soul would surely trust them to guide mages' path, but as I learned in Braavos years ago we do not all agree on who that aught to be."

"The Isle of the Gods and the Holy Refuge upon it is far indeed from here, but Sorcerer's Deep is not. The priests of gods young and old who reside there are all willing to speak of their gods to any who ask," you point out, without explicitly making it a suggestion that might be mistaken for an order.

For a long moment the Lord of Starfall is silent, considering your words and, you suspect, the deeds of the day. Finally he nods. "I will speak to these priests, though if I might ask one small boon of you, Your Grace..."

"Yes?" you prompt. You cannot think of anything that would be harmful at this point.

"I would bring Septon Erek, my closest spiritual counsel, with me to Sorcerer's Deep. I might have questions beyond a layman's understanding and would rather go to a trusted man skilled in such matters rather than blindly stumble along." For the first time today he offers a wry smile. "A wise lord does not try to build his own keep, heal his own ailments nor a thousand other tasks more suited to those who studies them."

"Of course," you reply. To deny the request would be to make it seem as though you have something to hide, likely undoing all the goodwill you have gathered today, but at the same time you make a mental note to have the Inquisition learn more of the good septon once he is in the Deep.

With that Lord Dayne takes his leave, saying that he needs to set his household in order and reassure his sisters before departing on the morrow. It seems Cletus Yronwood will have his victory in the joust, but you suspect it will not taste as sweet from having his principal opponent bow out unexpectedly. Now to see to the other intractable High Lords of Dorne.

***​

Of the three major particularist Houses, all of ducal rank, Blackmont, Gargalen and Uller, Lady Larra Blackmont is the most vocal. Having lost her father in the War of the Ninepenny Kings as a child and her husband and two brothers at the Trident you can imagine, and to a degree even sympathize, why the lady would wish to have nothing to do with any king north of the Red Mountains.

However, according to Prince Doran, bitter personal history does not tell the whole tale. "The lady is concerned that we will lose our culture, our laws and our customs to some greater realm. 'What the Andals could not do with sword and star, this dragon will do with chests of gold and a silvered tongue', she remarked more than once." He pauses a moment and takes another sip of wine. "There is something else too, this is servant's gossip so not the most reliable of accounts, but it seems her secondborn Perros is fascinated with the Lord of Light and spoke in favor of erecting a temple to his honor in Blackmont. As one might imagine his lady mother did not take well to the notion, perhaps fearing that this interest might leave the boy to shrink his duties to the House."

"What of the Lord of the Crusty Shore?" Tyene asks in jest.

Her uncle avoids rolling his eyes but it is a near thing. "Tremond Gargalen, Lord of Salt Shore, is I think concerned as much about what full integration into your realm will mean for his harbor fees as any abstract notion of Dornish autonomy. He is already suffering some losses as Sunspear itself becomes a more attractive port."

"And so he thinks slapping away potential improvements for his own lands will make the disparity better?" Dany snort. "He should be looking into how to raise himself up, not knock others back down. The potential for lucrative trade is..."

"Explain that to him not to me, Your Highness, I spend more than enough time pouring over ledgers already," Prince Doran interjects amused.

"And the last House, Uller?" you prompt as Dany subsides, though no doubt still thinking of argument to make to the Lord of Salt Shore.

"Harmen Uller is as concerned about dragons flying overhead as a man with his family history is likely to be, and on top of that he knows Oberyn is involved deeply in the pact between us, Your Grace. He does not trust anything my brother touches for the reason you might easily imagine."

Oberyn Martell and Ellaria Sand, Lord Harmen's daughter, are quite happy together, you know. She is the mother of the four youngest Sand Snakes, the last less than a year old, but that is not the sort of entanglement any father wants for his daughter, bastard or no.

Who do you approach and how?

[] Lady Larra Blackmont
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[] Lord Tremond Gargalen
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[] Lord Harmen Uller
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OOC: And here we are, there has been very little tourney on screen so far, hopefully that has not been too disappointing, but I could not really think of how to work it in with the way the dice fell and the actions you guys took so far.
 
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Tempted to throw Melisandre at Blackwood, some Red Scales Holding suits at Gargalen and visit Uller ourselves.
 
Of the three major particularist Houses all of ducal rank, Blackmont, Gargalen and Uller, Lady Larra Blackwood is the most vocal.
Pretty sure that should be Blackmont, and not just because they are mentioned earlier in the sentence. Also add a comma here or something.

Anyhow, for the first I feel we can just go over there and explain some of what we have planned. Compared to what those same Andals she dislikes so much will go through in terms of laws and culture, Dorne is going to be just fine. They already see women as people after all.

The second guy wants a guarantee he'll get money out of these, and as it happens that's already a sure thing so it should be easy to deal with.

The last guy just needs some reassurances I guess.
 
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I don't mind there being no focused coverage of the tourney itseld, @DragonParadox. I mainly wanted to visit it for the opportunities it presented, since so many noble personages would be gathered closely together, ripe for intrigue and drama. I haven't been disappointed so far.
 
Tempted to throw Melisandre at Blackwood, some Red Scales Holding suits at Gargalen and visit Uller ourselves.
I think we should visit Blackmont ourselves. That sounds like a delicate situation that needs a personal tough. Melisandre might have good social skills, but she's not the best representative to send to someone who is already worried about a loss of local culture.
 
I think we should visit Blackmont ourselves. That sounds like a delicate situation that needs a personal tough. Melisandre might have good social skills, but she's not the best representative to send to someone who is already worried about a loss of local culture.
She seems rather distrustful of Viserys though, so I'm inclined to delegate.
 
Pretty sure that should be Blackmont, and not just because they are mentioned earlier in the sentence. Also add a comma here or something.

Anyhow, for the first I feel we can just go over there and explain some of what we have planned. Compared to what those same Andals she dislikes so much will go through in terms of laws and culture, Dorne is going to be just fine. They already see women as people after all.

The second guy wants a guarantee he'll get money out of these, and as it happens that's already a sure thing so it should be easy to deal with.

The last guy just needs some reassurances I guess.

Indeed it was, typo :oops:

Fixing
 
She seems rather distrustful of Viserys though, so I'm inclined to delegate.
I read it as her distrustful of what she sees as foreign culture invading into Dorne, equating it to the Andals' own attempts at the same. If we explain her that this time the boot is in the other shoe and it's the Andals who are getting their culture stomped on, while Dorne won't have a hard time at all except for the Faith troubles (which are clearly the Andals' fault anyhow), she'll probably be quite happy with us.

In any case, if you want to delegate it maybe don't delegate it to Melisandre, who is easy to see as a symbol of her worries? I'd say send Tyene, she is Dornish.
 
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She seems rather distrustful of Viserys though, so I'm inclined to delegate.
If we're going to delegate that one, it needs to be someone more.appropriate than Melisandre, IMO. Rhaella and her entourage, maybe? She's well specced and equipped for diplomacy.
 
My read on the Blackmont situation is that the lady is troubled by her second son having decided to follow Burny, thus projecting everything on Viserys. There isn't all that much that we want to change in regards to Dornish culture. On the contrary. Gender roles are aligning much closer to their values then that of the Andals and we have given negative fucks about what people pray to as long as it isn't an omnicidal freak or declared enemy of us.
 
My read on the Blackmont situation is that the lady is troubled by her second son having decided to follow Burny, thus projecting everything on Viserys. There isn't all that much that we want to change in regards to Dornish culture. On the contrary. Gender roles are aligning much closer to their values then that of the Andals and we have given negative fucks about what people pray to as long as it isn't an omnicidal freak or declared enemy of us.
Which is why it should be easy to go and tell her that. She's probably just not following the news on what we're doing like she should be. Her son is a minor matter by comparison, best served by just pointing out that if you need a god, Burny's fine too. Lots of people are doing fine while worshiping him.
 
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