With Reds, it seems to be the case that they are "too clever for their own good", as in the Cersei Chaotic Stupid brand of "thinks they are smarter than they actually ever are".

So it's not that they're as dumb as whites, they just apply their intelligence in the most sub-optimal way possible.
 
also did we actually get told how the well of eternity's energy steal went for our gods becouse if we did i think i missed it
 
also did we actually get told how the well of eternity's energy steal went for our gods becouse if we did i think i missed it
@DragonParadox said he'll elaborate on it more in a chapter, but that notion kinda went nowhere.

We're waiting for the time we'll meet with Uncle, I suppose. Since DP wanted to show how our Gods did in such a chapter.
Even though we haven't planned to this month, to begin with.
And kinda have no reason to, still.
 
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Okay, so we gained approximately 10,000hd for the flesh forge, of which, we can use a third. Capped by the highest hd creature we killed, which would the 25cr tiamat avatar, right? For a ceiling of 8 hd.

I saw some write-ups for evil shadow dragons and lizard dogs, but don't we need more plant-sea creatures to fight deepones, or fire proof plant creatures to hold against the efreeti counter-strike, when we sacrifice their soul coins?

I assume we can make fire proof plants, since we did that with weirwoods.

Edit: I assume the young red fled to the city of brass because of a pre-existing deal with the tiamat conspiracy. She might also assume our planar allies wouldn't hesitate to hand her over.
 
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@DragonParadox said he'll elaborate on it more in a chapter, but that notion kinda went nowhere.

We're waiting for the time we'll meet with Uncle, I suppose. Since DP wanted to show how our Gods did in such a chapter.
Even though we haven't planned to this month, to begin with.
And kinda have no reason to, still.
IIRC DP said Bloodraven already got his first Mythic Rank due to him recruiting us as allies and how much we've been feeding the Old Gods. Maybe he's earned his second Mythic Rank by now. 🤔
 
I guess DP has an idea, but by all rights Azel and Duesal are correct, she should just be a footstool by now. I can see absolutely no Efreeti giving her commiserate protection as her situation actually requires, so she's effectively sold herself into slavery.
If she tells about the sending, she might be used as bait to trap us.
Mayhaps we should insinuate that Grandma's skills have gotten rusty over the years, the next time we meet her
"Grandma? I cannot fail to see that your latest progenitor acts were kind of ... unsuccessful? If I look at my Minddragons - would you like some tipps?
 
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Okay, so we gained approximately 10,000hd for the flesh forge, of which, we can use a third. Capped by the highest hd creature we killed, which would the 25cr tiamat avatar, right?

I saw some write-ups for evil shadow dragons and lizard dogs, but don't we need more plant-sea creatures to fight deepones, or fire proof plant creatures to hold against the efreeti counter-strike, when we sacrifice their soul coins?

I assume we can make fire proof plants, since we did that with weirwoods.
There's a barebones plan for the next month's order, which so far includes only creatures for the defense of our most important infrastructure.
Still isn't complete until we see whether we got the "Make Seekers without sacrificing babies"-research done this month, but otherwise...
Total numbers:
427 Black Knights, 490 IM each -- 209,230 IM.
520 Black Knights (mobility upgrade), 560 IM each -- 291,200 IM.
88 Black Champions, 5,360 IM each -- 471,680 IM.
955 Spitter Swarms, 60 IM each -- 57,300 IM.
196 Plant-Imbued Shadow Creature Cats, 1,200 IM each -- 232,800 IM.
224 Verdant Wolves, 1,200 IM each -- 268,800 IM.
76 Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy, 2,400 IM each -- 182, 400 IM.
38 Druid Creature Treants, 4,800 IM each -- 144,400 IM.
580 Verdant Kingfishers, 300 IM each -- 174,000 IM.
58 Verdant Ravens [Advanced Plant-Imbued Giant Raven (w/+4 Racial HD)] (CR 6, 6 HD) - 1,200 IM each, (69,600 IM total).
134 Advanced Sorcerer Creature Snapdragon Leshy, 4,800 IM each - 643,200 IM.
5 Necro-Craken -- 24,400 IM.
50 Spitter Swarms (Aquatic) - 60 IM each, -- 3,000 IM.
25 Advanced Druid Creature Seaweed Leshy (CR 6, 4 HD) - 1,200 IM each -- 30,000 IM.
5 Advanced Plant-Imbued Sea Drake (CR 10, 7 HD) - 4,800 IM each -- 24,000 IM.
10 Kelp Golems (Reskinned Aquatic Pumpkin Golem) (CR 8, 8 HD) - 2,400 IM each -- 24,000 IM.

Total Price: 2,850,010 IM.

I'm no good planning out decent army-sized units for such things as dedicated defense forces, like the one against the Deep Ones, though.
That'd be... 10kk IM in of an itself, easy.

And we probably can't use the Timmie's body anyway.
Aside from that being a horrendous loss of Mythic-grade materials, there's also that we couldn't fit Mammon into our forge, and he was significantly less fat (metaphysically) than Timmie (CR 23 vs CR 25).
 
IIRC DP said Bloodraven already got his first Mythic Rank due to him recruiting us as allies and how much we've been feeding the Old Gods. Maybe he's earned his second Mythic Rank by now. 🤔
Treant: "Feed me, Viserys! Feed me!"
Viserys: "Gladly. How about some Red Velvet Cake?"

Old Gods: "BLOODRAVEN. WHY IS HE BAKING CAKES FROM QUASITS AND FEEDING IT TO OUR TREES?"
Bloodraven: "Do you actually care or are you just jealous that your treant gets some and you don't?"
Old Gods: "..."
Bloodraven: "I knew it..."
Old Gods: "DON'T FAT-SHAME US!"
 
There's a barebones plan for the next month's order, which so far includes only creatures for the defense of our most important infrastructure.
Still isn't complete until we see whether we got the "Make Seekers without sacrificing babies"-research done this month, but otherwise...


I'm no good planning out decent army-sized units for such things as dedicated defense forces, like the one against the Deep Ones, though.
That'd be... 10kk IM in of an itself, easy.

And we probably can't use the Timmie's body anyway.
Aside from that being a horrendous loss of Mythic-grade materials, there's also that we couldn't fit Mammon into our forge, and he was significantly less fat (metaphysically) than Timmie (CR 23 vs CR 25).
Not only is Tiamat's body too powerful to toss to the Forge, it's too valuable. Dany can get a really nice cloak out of it. Hell, we can make quite a few cloaks out of it.
 
Not only is Tiamat's body too powerful to toss to the Forge, it's too valuable. Dany can get a really nice cloak out of it. Hell, we can make quite a few cloaks out of it.
see:
Aside from that being a horrendous loss of Mythic-grade materials
I wouldn't mind turning her body into a bunch of high-CR undead, or some cr 21+ Quburn's Champion Project.
Not on mass-production though.
Not unless we miraculously get ~150.000 HD until the end of this month, it doesn't seem worth it :/
 
There's a barebones plan for the next month's order, which so far includes only creatures for the defense of our most important infrastructure.
Still isn't complete until we see whether we got the "Make Seekers without sacrificing babies"-research done this month, but otherwise...
I'd add 10 Very Old Myrkdreki and 20 Wyrmling Myrkdreki.
Also, I need at least 24 Touguo for a special project and I'd say 200 more to test them in various applications, namely guard duty in properties near the water, especially Braavos, Inquisition work and as aid for the Tritons.
 
Azel took dips on the five heads ...
He's welcome to the heads. I don't need much for the trophy and the cloaks. The skulls Azel wants don't need any skin.
we have a theme of making cloaks from the hide of beings with the greed domain now, i like it
Doesn't hurt that the corpses are insanely magically potent.
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I wouldn't mind turning her body into a bunch of high-CR undead, or some cr 21+ Quburn's Champion Project.
Not on mass-production though.
Not unless we miraculously get ~150.000 HD until the end of this month, it doesn't seem worth it :/
Qyburn is going to have quite a bit of fun with this.
I'd add 10 Very Old Myrkdreki and 20 Wyrmling Myrkdreki.
Also, I need at least 24 Touguo for a special project and I'd say 200 more to test them in various applications, namely guard duty in properties near the water, especially Braavos, Inquisition work and as aid for the Tritons.
Yes please, I'm really looking forward to those.
That being..?

Where to put them?
Guarding people of importance seems a bit too much firepower, not to mention the drakes will be bored to tears.
A few can be assigned to Shadow Tower and to other places of interest (tormenting Legion soldiers :V), but I'm not sure otherwise.
They're perfect Inquisition agents.
 
That being..?

Where to put them?
Guarding people of importance seems a bit too much firepower, not to mention the drakes will be bored to tears.
A few can be assigned to Shadow Tower and to other places of interest (tormenting Legion soldiers :V), but I'm not sure otherwise.
Tuogou are the snake/dog/carps that Azel statted up they are under proposed forge creations
 
Speaking of wonderful horrible things the Efreeti might pull on her, since she came seeking help...

Well, she was made to procreate and continue the Chromatic line, was she not?
It would only make sense for Efreti to... speed up the process, so to say. :V
Horrible body mutilation and grafting to artificially engage the necessary draconic-aging-switches are mandatory. :drevil:

For real though, I wouldn't discount the Efreeti using this as a chance to rapidly breed themselves some Draconic forces, if only to stave off the attacks from Djinn and Shaitan. Reds are surprisingly good at operating in PoF.
Do be careful with that line of discussion. It tends to attract mods.
 
@DragonParadox said he'll elaborate on it more in a chapter, but that notion kinda went nowhere.

We're waiting for the time we'll meet with Uncle, I suppose. Since DP wanted to show how our Gods did in such a chapter.
Even though we haven't planned to this month, to begin with.
And kinda have no reason to, still.

I'll cover it when we get to Bloodraven. It's just that there has been so much clean up to do.

Anyway vote closed. Lorath should not take long. They can look at the map as well as anyone.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 4, 2020 at 2:51 PM, finished with 43 posts and 8 votes.
 
Where to put them?
Guarding people of importance seems a bit too much firepower, not to mention the drakes will be bored to tears.
A few can be assigned to Shadow Tower and to other places of interest (tormenting Legion soldiers :V), but I'm not sure otherwise.
3x Shadow Tower - Guard detail and using their heavy duty illusions to help @Goldfish with his Danger Room plot
2x Gogossos - Guard detail and fetching parts for the Flesh Forgers
2x Sarnor - Guard detail and attack force against undead clusters.
1x Inquisition - Because phasing necromancer dragons are known to greatly boost the efficiency of law enforcement operations.
2x Reserve - Assuming that not everyone wants one of those assignments, we leave two of them to other tasks. Most likely help when exploring ruins, as going incorporeal is tremendously useful when exploring and they fit both tank, DPS and field control roles.
 
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