Mercenaries have their own pacts, it's wrong to say they have no experience with pacts. Demons also have no experience with pacts. We've got a bunch of other fiends and haven't had any real issue with them. It's more a problem of placing them properly and making sure the people around them are strong enough to stand their ground.
We purchased a few pairs of Gloves of Object reading from the Githzerai already, and we have a much larger order of them which we will be picking up next month.
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My point is these are things explicitly interested in climbing up the divine ladder through selling their services to the most enticing bidder. Be in Asmodeus, another Lord of Hell, Efreeti or any other evil of the week.
I don't see the justifications for the concern. I'm pushing specifically to see if they're recruitable, not to blindly recruit them. This would include making sure they would obey our laws, doing everything in our power to bind them to their word, etc. If the interrogation and divinations reveal they would be trouble, to the tree they go.
They might have their own goals but it's not like they can't be reasoned with. We've got living proof that Outsiders are capable of change if given enough incentive. More to the point, even if they're mercenary that doesn't mean they immediately stab a pre-existing contract in the back. Not only would nobody bother hiring them if they did that, we can divine on whether or not they would. Again. No Mind Blank is here to stop us.
It's worth it to me.
Pretty sure that Phenixes aren't actually Bards, and that Snapdragon Leshies have the same problem. Teaching bards is probably slower for them than it would be for a proper Bard. Or am I wrong?
...Actually, I think we can just ask Yss to make some Outsiders to teach Bardic stuff for us, at this point.
Lesser Phoenixes aren't bards unless they gain class levels for it, yes.
Eh, at this point I just dont want to waste more Inquisitors in the background monitoring 'aliies'. Just wasteful in my opinion.
Who said anything about wasting an inquisitor for this? It'd just be semi-regular divinations via House of Mirrors.
Sure but the idea of Dire-measles is still more fun, than just outright making new diseases, especially that mean you could run into such gems, as a mighty half-dragon Flu.
How do you think that works? Somebody to keep track of a fiend, somebody to relieve that guy after his shift. Somebody to regularly divine what a asset is doing. Somebody to keep track of all this tracking. Somebody to make sure the tracking and its paperwork hasnt been subverted. Somebody to investigate the competency of the trackers. And somebody to monitor and approve all this stuff. And somebody to make sure all of these people arent cultists now.
The checking is frankly to appease you and the others who don't trust the initial divination. I'm perfectly content with trusting the initial divination and interrogation.
It's pretty damn frustrating for me that you guys seem to be deadset against even talking to it and seeing via divination if it will keep its word.
And dont get me started in the wasted spellslots for that backgrounder divination stuff. How many would that even take? Did demon dog number 25 eat people since the last check? If yes was it only state sanctioned targets? Did he kill anyone without eating them? Did he do any snooping? Was it illegal snooping? How illegal? Did he encourage any depraved acts? Was it full blown cult stuff? Did it encourage something leading to cult stuff? What was it?...and so on and so on.
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They're useful enough that hiring them was worth it, and with their connection to the Abyss being severed they'll be drifting away from that mindless destruction anyway.
Again, I only wanted to talk to them and see if they'd honor their vows and obey our laws. If the answer turns out to be no, and it very well might, I'll support tossing them into the pile.Everything is people-loot when you havethe Trash CompactorYss.
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For real though, I too agree that keeping track of destruction-focused not-really-loyal-to-anyone CR15 thing would be a bit too risky... since it can try and get itself a Divination-lying item in the time it is not getting monitored.
Or get approached by Asmodeus' pawns with one.
Etc.
And low-level Asurendas aren't worth it for the same reason Imps aren't, imo @Artemis1992 - too much eye needs to be kept on them for their relative usefulness.
But, again, we'll see.
They may not even be recruitable, after all.
