Oooh. That is nice. Guys minor action to recruit these guys to the crafter pile next turn? Or can we get it done now?
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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Crake
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You know we are doing something quite ground-breaking and it is quite telling that none of the Priesthoods across Essos have thus far taken so much issue with it as the FotS will.
And it's not just having wide-spread influence or power which might make them want to rock the boat in that area, the Red Faith in essence has been very cooperative, and they're one of the most powerful factions in Essos right now.
And then it hit me. While some are likely upset or at least a little confused over the notion their having Divine magic places within the same circle as mages from Arcane traditions, the FotS fundamentally has to try to brain-twist themselves into believing that "miracles" from the Seven aren't actually magic, like Warhammer Fantasy Battle, but Essos priesthoods never lost most of their old lore, so they know damn well that Divine and Arcane are basically magical yin and yang, two parts of one whole.
And we're the Messiah for a great portion of the faithful of the Reds and the Antichrist for a great portion of the FotS, so of course they'd rail against the change.
It's quite funny to me how politics and legislation has turned out a really radically different landscape across both continents. It feels like only Yi Ti has yet to feel the full effects of our changes.
And it's not just having wide-spread influence or power which might make them want to rock the boat in that area, the Red Faith in essence has been very cooperative, and they're one of the most powerful factions in Essos right now.
And then it hit me. While some are likely upset or at least a little confused over the notion their having Divine magic places within the same circle as mages from Arcane traditions, the FotS fundamentally has to try to brain-twist themselves into believing that "miracles" from the Seven aren't actually magic, like Warhammer Fantasy Battle, but Essos priesthoods never lost most of their old lore, so they know damn well that Divine and Arcane are basically magical yin and yang, two parts of one whole.
And we're the Messiah for a great portion of the faithful of the Reds and the Antichrist for a great portion of the FotS, so of course they'd rail against the change.
It's quite funny to me how politics and legislation has turned out a really radically different landscape across both continents. It feels like only Yi Ti has yet to feel the full effects of our changes.
Pretty sure it has by now. Just wait until the Fleet gets there and Viserys comes over for a chat.
What do you think that Kami would think to a Mythic Dragon coming ove r to bisit?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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I'm not ready to talk to Mah Boi the Son of Heaven until we control Westeros again.
I ain't bowing my head, I can tell you that much. If he's Heaven's Chosen Son, he can look a Dragon in the eye.
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@DragonParadox, given our current resources:
1. The Caleris family -- a full fledged member of the Forty, educated as such
2. Malarys -- former cleric of Balerion, now a Companion
3. Laenor Targaryen -- former seer of Syrax
4. The Flesh Smiths of Gogossos -- now part of the Old Gods' hivemind
5. All of the lore we've acquired on the Freehold
Could we theoretically control the Firewyrm slumbering under Volantis and get it somewhere else so it's no longer a ticking time bomb which Ymeri could exploit? We now have Dominate Monster as one of our spells for example. Early in the quest, very very early, you said a Flight of Dragonlords was needed to control one. But how strong would they have been compared to what we can bring to bear?
1. The Caleris family -- a full fledged member of the Forty, educated as such
2. Malarys -- former cleric of Balerion, now a Companion
3. Laenor Targaryen -- former seer of Syrax
4. The Flesh Smiths of Gogossos -- now part of the Old Gods' hivemind
5. All of the lore we've acquired on the Freehold
Could we theoretically control the Firewyrm slumbering under Volantis and get it somewhere else so it's no longer a ticking time bomb which Ymeri could exploit? We now have Dominate Monster as one of our spells for example. Early in the quest, very very early, you said a Flight of Dragonlords was needed to control one. But how strong would they have been compared to what we can bring to bear?
Never implied we would. But even without Westros the disparity is obvious to anyone competent enough to understand the sheer level difference.
Crake
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Probably pretty similar, actually.
If we wanted to talk to him sooner, we could do the thing where they introduce us as King of the Seven Kingdoms even though we do not actually hold them. And the Yi Tish won't call us out on it because they live and breathe that kind of bullshit.
Crake
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With Westeros it's unquestionable. We would control Western Essos in all but name and an entire other continent.
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DIdn't we arrange for a meeting later this, or early next month?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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A minor action was to meet with Orange, but Mah Boi thus far is only being talked to through our intermediaries. That's for a good reason. Politics for this require the perfect introduction. I have plaaans.
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As long as it's no longer utterly beyond us. I don't even really mind if we don't use it, I just don't want something like that under Volantis. This is the Landwarden of Lys all over again, if slightly less disastrous.
Would you mind explaining a bit further?
Crake I love your plans! Please share the basic outline if you can!
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Right now he controls at best a third of a continent.
We already have him topped there.
I could have sworn we wanted to approach Azure.
egoo mentioned it when we talked about how to get the message about his pacting or eaten cousin to him, and the evil infiltration that comes with it.
That would take an action to figure out where it is first of all. 'Beneath Volantis' is a bit too vague to start digging
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What if we just sectioned Volantis off into quadrants and kept narrowing it down through divination? Mind you, this isn't urgent until Ymeri wants to use it again (and she unfortunately should be aware of it).
egoo
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Yes, we are making arrangements to meet with him in person, actually:
Not immediately, mind - but we are going to exchange some lore yey-to eye.
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@DragonParadox So I have two questions
1. Is there any rituals that the Rhllorites have developed over their years of existence. Do they have any that we don't already have/developed?
2. Do they have anything unique in regards of rituals. Something similar to the fire ward that imprisoned the champion?
Edit: Rituals meaning spells turned into rituals for the first question.
1. Is there any rituals that the Rhllorites have developed over their years of existence. Do they have any that we don't already have/developed?
2. Do they have anything unique in regards of rituals. Something similar to the fire ward that imprisoned the champion?
Edit: Rituals meaning spells turned into rituals for the first question.
That is one of the ways you could do it but considering the size of the city relative to the range of most divination effects and the posibility of wards it would still take an action.
CoB interlude next. Hopefully I can have it up fast enough to do a third update after that.
I can't answer this off the cuff unfortunately. I'm going to have to consider and roll for just where their ritual-making would have gone and how much of it they have.
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@DragonParadox, what are R'hllor's divine servants, typically? Beyond simple Fire Elementals that is.
Also does R'hllor have his own Herald and if so what is the Herald?
Also does R'hllor have his own Herald and if so what is the Herald?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Details still coming together, we really only need to conquer Westeros but ideally we would bring in Lorath, Qohor and Norvos by then.
Basically though it's establishing the narrative that we are the Dragon of the West to compliment his Dragon the East, then building on that to gradually bind his own realm to our own through ties of friendship, trade and military alliance.
This is assuming many things, which is why branching out to that after taking time to shore up our own position and interacting with the different candidates for a puppet that you guys have mentioned you at least wanted to try interacting with before making any grand overtures is to have our story we're selling be basically undisputed.
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Who is the Norvos god again? I am genuinely curious because there is no record of him anywhere. They even keep his name a secret.
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And once gain, we see the superiority of our own system!Sure they have an awful lot of PCs, but we dramatically outclass them when it comes to training swarms of magelings. Presumably they have a master/apprentice (or similar) system that's very strict in who is allowed to enter?
Nevertheless, those are very low mageling numbers compared to their number of PCs. @DragonParadox, are they more likely to teach people who are aaalready exceptional (ie retrain PCs rather tha train from level 1) or do they have a policy that drives people to break through the PC cap or die?