egoo
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We'd have to give a speech to them, the followers of the "Imperial Creed".
Blah-blah, believe in bureaucracy! Blah-blah, believe in yourself! Blah-blah-
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Blah-blah, believe in bureaucracy! Blah-blah, believe in yourself! Blah-blah-
Sincere belief in the system, and the emperor as the head of it, would count wouldn't it? It's not like it'd be unusual for us to only chose the most loyal to directly give spells to.
What matters is how it looks to outsiders. Sitting at a desk filling out paperwork, signing it, then tossing it into a fire looks weird, but much closer to regular magic weird and not "supplication to the mad god emperor " weird. As long as our system of "worship" here emphasizes the value of the state and its laws and uses Viserys as an embodiment of that they'd sound like nationalists not zealots.
This is very much a matter of personal interpretation where it comes to canon, but in ASWAH I had the Royces keep their faith along with their Heart Tree. I think is is notable that a lot of heart trees survived whereas 'convert or die' for the nobility would likely seem them destroyed IMO. The way I see it a lot of other Houses used to be vestigial Old Gods worshipers and it just petered out in all but a couple of cases while nonetheless leaving a lot of Godswoods inside castle walls.
I figured that was what happened mostly in the later spread kingdoms, that is everywhere that wasn't the Vale. In the Vale things were pretty thorough. The Eyrie doesn't even have a 'for show' Godswood without a real weirwood like the Red Keep does. Just an empty space.
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That's and entirely fair perspective given what we know happened in places like Gulltown, but the Royces just don't get me that sort of feeling. These are the people with multiple Stark marriages who keep a suit of supposedly magic first men armor around that is also reflected in their banner whose House words are 'We remember'. Being converted by the sword just does not fit for me under those circumstances. That said this is far from conclusive evidence of canon, just my basis for why I aranged things as I did in ASWAH.
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@DragonParadox, I had a couple questions.
1. If things work out with being able to have clerics while successfully rejecting worship to avoid divinity, are warlocks a possibility for Viserys or no?
2. Do we have confirmation on how Maelor got his warlock powers? Did he make a deal with anything or was it simply a product of his heritage?
3. Has Dalla had any luck finding Griffons native to Prime Material?
4. Do we have any word on that... I think it was a Rowan girl whom uncle Bloodraven had Dalla kidnap for whatever reason? Did she become a wandering druid or something?
5. Is there any sort of rumor out there that could give us a hint of what Euron has been up to?
6. Does the Hadhayosh know where he's from? Did he get forged by some bygone god or was he spawned naturally in the Plane of Fire? If the latter is the case, at the end of the research for forging Fire Outsiders would making young Hadhayosh's be a possibility?
1. If things work out with being able to have clerics while successfully rejecting worship to avoid divinity, are warlocks a possibility for Viserys or no?
2. Do we have confirmation on how Maelor got his warlock powers? Did he make a deal with anything or was it simply a product of his heritage?
3. Has Dalla had any luck finding Griffons native to Prime Material?
4. Do we have any word on that... I think it was a Rowan girl whom uncle Bloodraven had Dalla kidnap for whatever reason? Did she become a wandering druid or something?
5. Is there any sort of rumor out there that could give us a hint of what Euron has been up to?
6. Does the Hadhayosh know where he's from? Did he get forged by some bygone god or was he spawned naturally in the Plane of Fire? If the latter is the case, at the end of the research for forging Fire Outsiders would making young Hadhayosh's be a possibility?
egoo
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Come on, don't give yourself false hopes like that. With our luck he's probably been doing horrific shit in Asshai and Stygai for years now.
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Dragonfire Adepts would be more appropriate than Warlocks, IMO. They would also be an acceptable alternative to granting Cleric spells, at least to me, though I know ya'll aren't in favor of that.
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Yeah, I'd definitely prefer clerics if we manage this successfully.
- Sufficiently powerful dragons can make warlocks (or dragonfire adepts), Viserys knows that for sure
- Product of his heritage, the Abyss is leaking into his soul in a truly strange way that rather than twisting him to madness gives him magic power
- Not yet no
- She is becoming a spellcaster, but not a druid no
- Not at the moment
- He's natural though he did arise near a sundered divine forge long since swallowed up by the plane of fire.
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Oooh, now that's interesting. A sundered divine forge? I've got my fingers crossed for finding lore about that.
Goldfish
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Wanna bet it was salvaged and repurposed into the Living Brass Forge used in the City of Brass?
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That was my initial suspicion, though that being said given that the entire city literally went to Hell for a while it's definitely something Asmodeus would be capable of making outright.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Ah, "swallowed up" as in..?
If its merely under
If nothing else, Touch of History-like spells will get us some the lore on forging Fire Elementals.
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So with Discern Location, we only really need a decent description to be able to pinpoint something. @DragonParadox, if we try to find the remains of the Forge, does it register at all?
Swallowed up as in it's in a particularly tumultuous part of the plane. It could be covered in flaming oil baked into a hunk of basalt, burred in ash etc... It's bene a long time since the bull has seen it.
So does this mean we could try to sunder mint in the CoB in such a way that it releases a fuckhuge brass bull? Loot that transports itself and kills things for you is the best kind of loot.
Using the description you have Viserys gets the answer 'Wilds of the Plane of fire'.
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If it were possible to find it again, even shattered remnants, that would be an amazing tool for us.
Oh hell yes, it still exists.
I am really looking to finding it eventually.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Well...
If it has not been looted yet...
We might have just found a perspective location for Amrelath to set up.
And Yssian is kinda limited in use :/
If it has not been looted yet...
We might have just found a perspective location for Amrelath to set up.
I assume that regular Divination won't return with much better results than that?
And Yssian is kinda limited in use :/
Wait, isn't this guy a colossal brass bull? Where is he staying that it hasn't caused a panic yet?
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We have actual dragons, giant metal men, real giants, etc. I could go on for pages. A brass bull would raise eyebrows but it wouldn't cause a panic in Sorcerer's Deep.
That said for the time being it seems like he's been staying in Gogossos.