H-huh.

So, it seems our people actually clear out the spy-infestation in Yi-Ti this month, isntead of just looking thoroughly into it to strike st it decisively next month.


Pro: We fuck shit up for Timmie, BS!Emperor, and asshole Onis.

Con: We can't unfuck the shit we fucked up, so Timmie's gonna be aware of us... or just someone else in general (but I doubt she won't Divine enough to guess at us) putting an end to the spy-ring.
Her being on guard for our amassed attack is all but a given now.

Pro: We have one target less to worry about splitting our forces to attack come next nonth.

Pro: We get more good rep in with Asure Emps, that's gonna count for a lot.

Tyene decided top take advantage of the fight at the dojo to use the age old tactic 'let's you and him fight'. :V

The important thing to note here is that at the level Tyene was impersonating it's entirely reasonable the Rakshasha would have mind blank. That sort of opportunity does not come often
 
Tyene decided top take advantage of the fight at the dojo to use the age old tactic 'let's you and him fight'. :V

The important thing to note here is that at the level Tyene was impersonating it's entirely reasonable the Rakshasha would have mind blank. That sort of opportunity does not come often
Ah, so the "keep gathering information to cull the shit in one go, next month"-OP is still going then.
Splendid.

Looking at all the fights, I was having my doubts, but since they just were opportunistic "We're totally those other guys you hate!"-skirmishes...
 
No one commented on the vitriol in her tone. The alu demon had changed much since Tyene had first met her, very much indeed, but one thing that had remained unchanged was a disdain for any lord, king or emperor who did not prove his personal worth to her. Hopefully Bu Gai would prove wise in the days ahead.
This is simultaneously a "haha, poor little Emperor" moment and an "awww" moment. Since it proves that Viserys has Azema's highest esteem.
 
"Let's not congratulate ourselves too much, we still have to explain to the 'Son of Heaven' how a fiend had come to wear the skin of his cousin or worse still, how his cousin became such a one," Azema cut in. "It would do his reign no favors that the blood he is so proud of flows thick with the same vices as 'lesser men'."
Oh yeah, I look forward to seeing how he and the rest of his advisors reacts to this! next eastern interlude can't come soon enough!
 
Hmm, I want to Bookify that Wind Yai. Get a detail on all Fiend plots it knows about IKEA Yi Ti. And plots and info in general really. If it has Caster Levels it's a CR 19-20 challenge potentially. If so interrogate and sacrifice to Yss for another dose of venom or a Creature of Legend Storm/Sky Serpent.

Can Zathir make Coatls yet? Or can Yss? And if Zathir does can Yss put the Creature of Legend template on it?
 
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Hmm, I want to Bookify that Wind Yai. Get a detail on all Fiend plots it knows about IKEA Yi Ti. And plots and info in general really. If it has Caster Levels it's a CR 19-20 challenge potentially. If so interrogate and sacrifice to Yss for another dose of venom or a Creature of Legend Storm/Sky Serpent.

Can Zathir make Coatls yet? Or can Yss? And if Zathir does can Yss put the Creature of Legend template on it?

He can make Coatls, though it will probably be a little while before he decides on what would be suitable for this new world

These Far East monsters are great. :) @DragonParadox, I hope we get to keep the Wind Yai when this is all done.

It's posibile if you guys are the ones to fight it rather than the Emerald Magistrates.
 
Can Yss empower Coatl Zathir makes? Without usurping dominion over them? Because I'd like a CR 20 Mighty Creature of Legeng Gigantean Coatl.
 
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@DragonParadox Just material for the next interlude, but the hardest part for Tyene and crew when delivering the news to Emps is going to be trying to make the public stuff make him seem competent and placing as much of the credit in the hands of his agents as possible, and keeping the shame private, so that he can save face. This is fundamentally a problem when you need to shuffle officials around and figure out what kind of "accident" certain people need to suffer. It's all very sordid and head-ache inducing. In Viserys' court we'd torch the bastard, and Viserys thus far can eat the loss of prestige without even blinking since he's established in his power and even in his competence, and also most people just disconnect the blame for the actions of corrupt servants in the west from the head honcho, but that admittedly wouldn't be the case if the person was a relative who we personally appointed to the position. Then again we wouldn't make that appointment without being certain as to their character, so this is crow that Azure Emps has to eat. In private.

Basically
though if we can manage that, we have done him multiple solids by removing some mutual enemies and shored up his power and legitimacy some in one move.

It probably rankles a bit that our mere agents have done so much for him and show no signs of slowing down, but it's probably even stranger that the odd foreigners are navigating court politics and intrigue so well that he can't really afford to alienate them either, even as a move to gain distance from them (because they've been covering their tracks too well and proving indispensable).
 
@DragonParadox Just material for the next interlude, but the hardest part for Tyene and crew when delivering the news to Emps is going to be trying to make the public stuff make him seem competent and placing as much of the credit in the hands of his agents as possible, and keeping the shame private, so that he can save face. This is fundamentally a problem when you need to shuffle officials around and figure out what kind of "accident" certain people need to suffer. It's all very sordid and head-ache inducing. In Viserys' court we'd torch the bastard, and Viserys thus far can eat the loss of prestige without even blinking since he's established in his power and even in his competence, and also most people just disconnect the blame for the actions of corrupt servants in the west from the head honcho, but that admittedly wouldn't be the case if the person was a relative who we personally appointed to the position. Then again we wouldn't make that appointment without being certain as to their character, so this is crow that Azure Emps has to eat. In private.

Basically
though if we can manage that, we have done him multiple solids by removing some mutual enemies and shored up his power and legitimacy some in one move.

It probably rankles a bit that our mere agents have done so much for him and show no signs of slowing down, but it's probably even stranger that the odd foreigners are navigating court politics and intrigue so well that he can't really afford to alienate them either, even as a move to gain distance from them (because they've been covering their tracks too well and proving indispensable).

Yeah that is the challenge in a nutshell, made moire tricky by the fact that Tyene is not sure just how solid or shaky the Emperor's position really is. All the pomp and ritual is making it hard to estimate how much the movers and shakers of the Empire really respect and/or fear him.
 
Yeah that is the challenge in a nutshell, made moire tricky by the fact that Tyene is not sure just how solid or shaky the Emperor's position really is. All the pomp and ritual is making it hard to estimate how much the movers and shakers of the Empire really respect and/or fear him.
Even the people who do not respect and fear him have to act like that, because the pivot of their society revolves around the Son of Heaven at the top and all authority flows downwards from there due to filial piety.

So it's definitely tricky to navigate, but the best way to figure this out? Look at their ledgers. Check their taxes. Not even just the Magistrates and Princes, also their merchants. Look REALLY GOOD through the Merchants' ledgers. If the officials are covering up their fraud, it will be in a convenient fall man's records.
 
Even the people who do not respect and fear him have to act like that, because the pivot of their society revolves around the Son of Heaven at the top and all authority flows downwards from there due to filial piety.

So it's definitely tricky to navigate, but the best way to figure this out? Look at their ledgers. Check their taxes. Not even just the Magistrates and Princes, also their merchants. Look REALLY GOOD through the Merchants' ledgers. If the officials are covering up their fraud, it will be in a convenient fall man's records.

True, it ws actually tax trouble in Jiang that first drew Garin's eye here.
 
So it's definitely tricky to navigate, but the best way to figure this out? Look at their ledgers. Check their taxes. Not even just the Magistrates and Princes, also their merchants. Look REALLY GOOD through the Merchants' ledgers. If the officials are covering up their fraud, it will be in a convenient fall man's records.
'Look where the money flows.'. True as ever.
 
Let's hold off on that. It's more than a little weird to have Zathir be CR 20 and yet have Coatls who are casually CR 20 alongside him.
Eh, I figure it will take a couple months anyway. By then we will feed home enough public good will and institutional affiliations to get him back up there. It would he a lot easier if we could just sacrifice atleast items to him though. Oh well.

Say maybe we can get him a discount on Coatl creating by giving him access to the Flesh Forge and reagents to offset the cost?

If we cant throw sacrifices at the problem just throw money in reagents to get him a hundred or so CR10 Couatl followers. Bonus the guys have Biplomacy +17 and Knowledge (any two) +15.

We finally got a source for competent Scholorum Teachers boys!

Would that work @DragonParadox ? Using the Flesh Forge to supplement Zathirs Coatl creation and using them as teachers?
 
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Eh, I figure it will take a couple months anyway. By then we will feed home enough public good will and institutional affiliations to get him back up there. It would he a lot easier if we could just sacrifice atleast items to him though. Oh well.

Say maybe we can get him a discount on Coatl creating by giving him access to the Flesh Forge and reagents to offset the cost?

If we cant throw sacrifices at the problem just throw money in reagents to get him a hundred or so CR10 Couatl followers. Bonus the guys have Biplomacy +17 and Knowledge (any two) +15.

We finally got a source for competent Scholorum Teachers boys!

Would that work @DragonParadox ? Using the Flesh Forge to supplement Zathirs Coatl creation and using them as teachers?
Couatls are Outsiders. The Flesh Forge can't make Outsiders.

If we're getting Couatls at all it has to be through Zathir making new ones or us finding the three existing ones.
 
Couatls are Outsiders. The Flesh Forge can't make Outsiders.
Alone but can we pay it for some blank creation bonus for Zathir? Like Yss took a CR 15 serpent from the Forge to make a champion. Can Zathir take some CR10 cost level snake egg from the Forge to reduce the divine cost of making Couatl?

Oh wait here is the d20npage for Couatl. CR10 +18 Fiplo and +9 arcane and +12 religion.
 
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Alone but can we pay it for some blank creation bonus for Zathir? Like Yss took a CR 15 serpent from the Forge to make a champion. Can Zathir take some CR10 cost level snake egg from the Forge to reduce the divine cost of making Coatl?
It's not going to be nearly as easy. Yss takes sacrifices, so we can just stuff him with fiends if we want something. Zathir on the other hand doesn't. We'd be weighing the civ enhancements he's busy overseeing with a desire for more couatls.

We're not in a rush here. From the sounds of it Zathir is going to be making more couatls anyway without involvement from the Flesh Forge.
 
@DragonParadox Just material for the next interlude, but the hardest part for Tyene and crew when delivering the news to Emps is going to be trying to make the public stuff make him seem competent and placing as much of the credit in the hands of his agents as possible, and keeping the shame private, so that he can save face. This is fundamentally a problem when you need to shuffle officials around and figure out what kind of "accident" certain people need to suffer. It's all very sordid and head-ache inducing. In Viserys' court we'd torch the bastard, and Viserys thus far can eat the loss of prestige without even blinking since he's established in his power and even in his competence, and also most people just disconnect the blame for the actions of corrupt servants in the west from the head honcho, but that admittedly wouldn't be the case if the person was a relative who we personally appointed to the position. Then again we wouldn't make that appointment without being certain as to their character, so this is crow that Azure Emps has to eat. In private.

Basically
though if we can manage that, we have done him multiple solids by removing some mutual enemies and shored up his power and legitimacy some in one move.

It probably rankles a bit that our mere agents have done so much for him and show no signs of slowing down, but it's probably even stranger that the odd foreigners are navigating court politics and intrigue so well that he can't really afford to alienate them either, even as a move to gain distance from them (because they've been covering their tracks too well and proving indispensable).
Simplest option seems to be not to meet Lil' Emps in court at all, but instead discreetly inform him personally of the issue.
Then he can solve it on his own, frame the situation as "Oni have eaten my cousin" with no mention of the possible willingly made deal and he looks good for having his agents kill demonic infiltrators.
 
It's not going to be nearly as easy. Yss takes sacrifices, so we can just stuff him with fiends if we want something. Zathir on the other hand doesn't. We'd be weighing the civ enhancements he's busy overseeing with a desire for more couatls.

We're not in a rush here. From the sounds of it Zathir is going to be making more couatls anyway without involvement from the Flesh Forge.
Well guess so. Say there actually are a couple types of Coatl arent there? So Zathir is thinking of one more suited to the current age?
 
He's probably going to make a bunch of normal ones as a base population and then make a herald of his own -- maybe CR 15 or something like those Lord Sun Warriors.
Think that's specific Coatl. Like a hero unit or something. Xiuh Coatl look nice and so do the Mix and Auwaz. Fire warriors, Night Watchers/Astrologers and Sea explorers/guards. I like how they all have great diplo.
 
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