We can create a Fungus Forge without a Landwarden though, we just need to build the infrastructure, then make sufficient sacrifices to the old gods to empower it.

I still don't get why we aren't getting Bahamut to chip in, sure I agree we shouldn't give him a temple in our lands for it, but as long as his price was acceptable, he would be the ideal god to help with this.
I can already tell you're not going to stop, but out of a vain hope that you will I'll respond.

Because Bahamut is not our ally. He does not like us. The gods we're considering working with are either allies or they have enough worshippers who are our vassals that they are incredibly co-dependent with us.

If you don't agree then fine, but please cut it out with saying you don't understand. There's a reason we're not trying to contact him.
 
I like the idea of a fluffy dragon, if Jon ever becomes a dragon his form should totally be super fluffy!


Also i just learned how to do the spoiler thing, thank god for help pages!
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Must. Resist. Furry. Jokes.
*hngh*
Most of my friends are furries. A very lgbt+ friendly place.
Go look at chinese dragons. Or golden DnD ones ...
I like noodle dragons. Very friendly and nice.

Welcome aboard, guys. I'm looking forward to when ya'll catch up with the thread. Then you can participate in the craziness firsthand.
What would I do to participate? Voting or suggestions?

If we ever get to a space staion or places with a lot of buttons, psychokinetic hand is a very versatile cantrip like how prestidigitation is.

Picking up and getting objects, pressing buttons and safely opening doors from a distance, there is a lot of mileage here.
 
Most of my friends are furries. A very lgbt+ friendly place.
Eh, I'm in no place to judge.
Wont stop me from making jokes about badly-made dragon-wolf OCs 'tho :p
A good suggestion, but actually brings up a tiny problem with the Starfinder meshing with 3.5

@DragonParadox, does it even?
Spell levels are all weird to me, prices even more so.
Cant even begin to judge other mechanics.

No need to give an answer soon, but I would like to know whether I even should dig through the lists of items/effects.


@Zavvnao, and just like that, you made discussion happen. Good going! :V
If we can make that spell work, it's be great for our fleet, alchemical industry, and some combat applications alike.
 
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Eh, I'm in no place to judge.
Wont stop me from making jokes about badly-made dragon-wolf OCs 'tho :p

A good suggestion, but actually brings up a tiny problem with the Starfinder meshing with 3.5

@DragonParadox, does it even?
Spell levels are all weird to me, prices even more so.
Cant even begin to judge other mechanics.

No need to give an answer soon, but I would like to know whether I even should dig through the lists of items/effects.


@Zavvnao, and just like that, you made discussion happen. Good going! :V
Psychokinetic Hand is basically the Starfinder refluff of the Mage Hand cantrip. A nice little spell with lots of uses, though not so many as Prestidigitation.
 
Both. Discussion and brainstorming are always welcome, and we are always on the lookout for more active participants. A lot of votes here are group efforts, so it's good to have extra contributors.
You might have noticed - if you checked the votes - that there just seems to be one around. Most of the time that's true, either because the vote is non-contentional, or because the vote is actually a combined effort made by one guy starting to compose it and other players chiming in.
For exactly that part, different points of view are a strength.
 
This interlude-wise...

That they have several separate camps is sub-optimal, but we might just get at them all well enough with some prior divinatio to where the Drakes and priests are (main targets, really) and good diplomancing at Traitor-General, while hoping beyond hope that we'd get F!Aegon within the Fortress and dont have to jump around trying to catch them.
 
Is there a way to check our own shadows for these guys?
And do demons/daemons have something similar?
Mindsight should be able to detect them, and True Seeing examination can reveal them if you know what you're looking for. Otherwise, they can be very difficult to detect.
 
A good suggestion, but actually brings up a tiny problem with the Starfinder meshing with 3.5

@DragonParadox, does it even?
Spell levels are all weird to me, prices even more so.
Cant even begin to judge other mechanics.

No need to give an answer soon, but I would like to know whether I even should dig through the lists of items/effects.

I think that if Starfinder is to be adapted, it would have to be on a case by case basis drawing inspiration more than transcribing

@DragonParadox, so the Golden Company is a haven for traitors and criminals?

They are a mercenary company so yes, that is pretty much universal for sellswords.
 
I think that if Starfinder is to be adapted, it would have to be on a case by case basis drawing inspiration more than transcribing

They are a mercenary company so yes, that is pretty much universal for sellswords.
Alright, I just did a bit of a double-take that they recruited one of the Jogos Nhai when the Golden Company has been systematically butchering that entire ethnicity.
 
Alright, I just did a bit of a double-take that they recruited one of the Jogos Nhai when the Golden Company has been systematically butchering that entire ethnicity.
If you are willing to sign up (assuming a detect lies interview) with the guys that slaughtered your people, you've got potential.
 
Eh, I'm in no place to judge.
Wont stop me from making jokes about badly-made dragon-wolf OCs 'tho :p
That is fine. I can admit that 90% of furry writing is cringe. The art and ocs can get out of hand, and now back to the game:

A good suggestion, but actually brings up a tiny problem with the Starfinder meshing with 3.5

@DragonParadox, does it even?
Spell levels are all weird to me, prices even more so.
Cant even begin to judge other mechanics.

No need to give an answer soon, but I would like to know whether I even should dig through the lists of items/effects.

@Zavvnao, and just like that, you made discussion happen. Good going! :V

The on Jon joke Or the spell is the discussion?

But I was suggesting the simplest bits of Starfinder, as it is Pathfinder in the future, in the same solar system and galaxy as pathfinder.

I will try to not bring in things that are too incompatable, but it helps if we encounter aliens, human or not to give an idea of magitech.
 
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:-( - so no good versus Deep Ones.

Now that you mention it - do we have the logistics covered to get the corpses to the flesh forge?
We'd have the Moonchaser above their main camps so very much so, I assume.

I'm more worried about grabbing their leadership efficiently really - we don't really have a way to find F!Aegon, so we'd have to...
*sigh*

Draw them out, somehow.

Ugh, I just prefer simple meatgrinders so much more.
Hate planning around capture and fleeing foes.
 
Yeah but was that in general or specifically for the anti-Tiamat action, as far as I remember it was in general, and there I totally agree, Bahamut is not a good fit for our empire, but getting him to join our collection of gods, is not at all the same thing, as doing a one time transaction to strike at Tiamat, I don't think Bahamut's price for striking at Tiamat, would be near as problematic, as his price for agreeing to be a part of our empire.
I can already tell you're not going to stop, but out of a vain hope that you will I'll respond.

Because Bahamut is not our ally. He does not like us. The gods we're considering working with are either allies or they have enough worshippers who are our vassals that they are incredibly co-dependent with us.

If you don't agree then fine, but please cut it out with saying you don't understand. There's a reason we're not trying to contact him.
And Rh'llor is our ally? I thought that for this operation we were going with pretty much anyone we can trust not to screw us, I'm not advocating for including Bahamut in our general operations, but finding his priest, and asking for a onetime boon to help strike at Tiamat, seem like a good idea, if he demand a more permanent relationship, we can just say no.

If we only want gods we want a permanent relationship with to participate I will drop it, I just thought that as a onetime transaction, getting Bahamuts aid would be a good idea.

I don't want Bahamut anywhere near our empire, but I don't see the problem with treating him as a mercenary and hiring him for anti-Tiamat operations(we would of course not want to phrase it like that, gods don't tend to like being treated with that kind of casualty.)
 
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