That's really weird by the way.
She can easily make illusions of light, which do the same thing, just not spells with the Light descriptor.
Illusions don't gotta explain shit, dude! :p

Seriously, though, there are some pretty powerful Light spells with special effects. For example, the limitation would probably prevent an Illusion spell duplicating something like Sunburst from doing extra damage to creatures vulnerable to light.

EDIT: And what DP said.
 
[X] Egoo
Deep in my heart I know, that even as we speak, a CR1 Flame Sprite is taking N'gaths corpse and the most valuable loot and vanishing into the night, never to be seen again.
 
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I think we are trying to get the asura, but I don't think we have enough info for the rest.
I'm pretty sure that we can divine them with Discern Location, had we but seen them at least once.

Albeit, I can't remember for shit most of the things you and @Duesal mentioned, so I can't be sure if we had seen them then.

Ya two mind elaborating? I'm kinda curious now.
 
It stole its master's Mind Blank Ring. -_-
Ye are talking about the Efreeti's familiar from the last month?
Him we are possibly (50/50 really, depends on his TN changing so soon) getting via Yss-targeted Mindblank piercing, and establishing connection to the body via former occupant's soul.

If summoning is outta question, we can, in fact, telefrag the fuck, as I've been ninja'ed.
 
I stand by my suggestion of using Imps/Quasits/Cacodaemons/whatever minor pest is there to prank-call their masters. Asmy, the gal that gets far too little sun, Abra with That One Weird Scrubbing Trick... and so on, via their Commune SLAs /s.
 
So I completely missed the fact that Teana can now just use her Shadowcraft magic to create Ghost Wolves without needing the 4th level spell any longer. Anyone care if I switch it out with a different spell? I was thinking Greater Invisibility.
 
So I completely missed the fact that Teana can now just use her Shadowcraft magic to create Ghost Wolves without needing the 4th level spell any longer. Anyone care if I switch it out with a different spell? I was thinking Greater Invisibility.
I trust your wisdom on mechanical matters completely, and I do know from what games I have played that Greater Invisibility can be fun, so go for it.
 
So I completely missed the fact that Teana can now just use her Shadowcraft magic to create Ghost Wolves without needing the 4th level spell any longer. Anyone care if I switch it out with a different spell? I was thinking Greater Invisibility.

Shadow Projection? Am not sold on Greater Invisibility considering 1) It is too short duration for scouting, 2) Can get a better defensive effect through other spells and 3) Everyone and their cousin can somehow pierce it at the CR we are playing at (Tremorsense, Blindsight, Mindsight, Truesight..) This allows for risk-free shenanigans! And you can always cast regular invisibility on the shadow.
 
Shadow Projection? Am not sold on Greater Invisibility considering 1) It is too short duration for scouting, 2) Can get a better defensive effect through other spells and 3) Everyone and their cousin can somehow pierce it at the CR we are playing at (Tremorsense, Blindsight, Mindsight, Truesight..) This allows for risk-free shenanigans! And you can always cast regular invisibility on the shadow.
That's another spell that would be more useful for someone other than Teana, since she can already create three independent Shadow duplicates any time she wants without being incapacitated.

Greater Invisibility isn't perfect, but it's pretty effective. She can use scrolls for it, though.

What about Spell Enhancer or Ruin Delver's Fortune?
 
@Duesal, @Goldfish if the update gives us a body to eat and I'm asleep by then, here's the stuff we can add up on top of our usual buffs
+ 11 Luck (Ruin Delver's Fortune – equal to Charisma modifier)
+ 23 Insight (Moment of Prescience - equal to CL)
+ Plant Body spell (Immunity to Mind-affecting)
And here is what was a "base" state then, albeit may be outdated a bit now.
Viserys' 'base' Willsave = 11 (+1 against Evil, +1 against Necromancy) +6 Competence (Channel Vigor: Spirit) + 6 (Wisdom) +6 (don't know from where, really, but it's on the sheet) + 10 (Dany's Persistomancy)+1d6 (Mythic Surge) = 39(41)+1d6 'base' will save.
+ Nine Lives (reroll on a fail) + Alter Fortune by an ally (reroll on a fail)
+ Mindblank (Immunity to all mind-affecting spells and effects)
 
Always liked 'oh shit' effects and luck bonii are pretty rare. Do not believe there's anything else in her build bequeathing such?
RE: Shadow Projection, can cast spells and similar effects through it, along with becoming incorporeal, but fair enough.
Nothing beyond the ability to switch places with one of her Shadow duplicates as an Immediate Action to avoid a killing blow, which is actually pretty nice.

I would like for her to learn Spell Enhancer, but I think Ruin Delver's Fortune is more in line with Teana's character.

EDIT: I'm updating Teana's character sheet right now, which includes giving her a Launcher and a selection of Alchemical items. It's not quite the same as spellcasting, but she can arm her Shadow duplicates with a Launcher, Fungal Stun Vials, Sleep Smoke, etc., in order to give them some nice punch.
 
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