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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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zxzx24 said:
Real quick, we don't care if he keeps doing black market stuff right? As long as it keeps a basic level of... Levelness.
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Since you are regulating the place it will by definition not be a black market, however it will be untaxed in the traditional sense so it might still be called a black market by some in that sense.

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 PM, finished with 39 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] "There will be a sub-Bureau in the Office of Trade to organize the solicitors purveying their business in Lys and beyond, to coordinate with prospective pact forgers, to forge a contract fit for the situation which can be reviewed before agreed upon by both parties, with the base agreement being that it occurs in a place where neither body nor mind can be intoxicated or rendered unsound and the regulatory body of the city itself is fully aware of each transaction that takes place. For record keeping purposes, should anyone dispute the bargain made."
    -[X] Ask in turn how much control he has over the merchants on his market, if a ledger of all things sold and traded could be provided the rules would be less strict than should we blanket ban certain items from trade.
    -[X] Ask as well how easy it is for them to move the market to a different city, some seasonal movement to cities that wish to harbor them would increase their mistique and open new markets from them, often people will flock to buy something that is only available for a time even as they let slip something they wanted more but felt always at their fingertips.
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Part MMMLXIV: Fair Dealings
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    • Fair Dealings ​

    Twenty-Eighth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

    You consider the matter a long moment, weighing the risks and advantages. In the end you come to the conclusion that as with any other aspect of law and regulation you cannot give a definitive answer here and now with some yard-long scroll listing every possible abuse or carelessness. Thankfully you do not have to for that is what the administration is meant for, though granted this task may be a touch stranger than they are used to.

    "There will be a sub-bureau in the Office of Trade to organize the solicitors purveying their business in Lys and beyond, to coordinate with prospective pact-forgers, to forge a contract fit for the situation which can be reviewed before agreed upon by both parties, with the base agreement being that it occurs in a place where neither body nor mind can be intoxicated or rendered unsound, and the regulatory body of the city itself is fully aware of each transaction that takes place," you recount, sliding without truly meaning to into that particular formality of solicitors speaking of the law. The Hooded Lord does not seem to have any difficulty following, though. Perhaps the Fey have an affinity to the profession... Banishing the amusing image of a Fey advocate from your mind with a shake of the head, you conclude, "The latter is for record keeping purposes, should anyone dispute the bargain made."

    "That is acceptable," comes the reply, the last word drawn out in three parts fit to break. "I now understand the purpose of the assistant you wish to offer better."

    From the way Hermetia visibly struggles against a smile you suspect you are not the only one struggling against imagining Fey in odd postures, though much of the good cheer is likely also owed to the relief of the matter of the Goblin Market being solved and sorted at last.

    "Indeed," you nod amiably to the Hooded Lord. "If you could provide a ledger of all things sold and traded the rules would be less strict when it comes to a wholesale ban on particular trade."

    "That can be arranged in at most a moonturn," the Fey Lord replies. The rain stops, or at least the sound of it does, leaving the four of you to stand in perfect silence for a moment before the Lord of the Goblin Market continues in his own voice, speaking clearly for sky and earth to hear: "I pledge my service under the conditions of the last iteration of the bargain discussed here. Let is be sealed, known, and unaltered save by the consent of both parts. Agreed?"

    "Agreed," you reply solemnly. He makes no move to kneel and there certainly is no crown in sight. Though the Hooded Lord had claimed he is no trader, this has far more the air of a mercantile transaction than your agreement with the Shadow Lord. An agreeable bargain for all concerned.

    Before the Hooded Lord departs you ask him how easily the market can be moved as he implied he would do if a deal had not been struck today. "Some seasonal movement to cities that wish to harbor the Goblin Market would increase its allure and open opportunities. People will flock to buy something that is only available for a time even as they let slip something they wanted more but know it be near at hand."

    "Many of the lesser merchants would struggle to carry their wares across shifting the paths of the Feywild, though with all your realm open to us they could simply make the journey through mortal lands," the Fey Lord replies after a moment's thought. "A worthy proposition."

    With that he does depart, gone with the rain, though water still drips through the boughs of the Heart Tree and the clouds would likely linger until evening.

    What do you do next?

    [] Approach the Fey Muse you know to be an agent of Ymeri
    -[] Write in how

    [] Further investigate the Fey killings in the Goblin Market
    -[] Write in how

    [] Write in

    OOC: Remember that you can also delegate. Ser Richard, Malarys, the Harbinger, and Rina are still on this action.
     
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    • Oh, the Leanan here is the agent of Ymeri?
    I thought she was the one from the court of Stars, that we already met.

    This is great Mythic sacrifices are always worthwhile.
     
    We should probably send Viserys on the Ymeri fey mission. Along with Rina also. As fo the fey killings we should send the rest? I kinda want to keep Malarys on finding and hunting the CoS fey and capturing it. I want to know everything about those assholes and what they are planning.
     
    [X] Approach the fey muse you know to be an agent of Ymeri
    -[X] Parley via Sending. Let them name time and place, you will bring Malarys, Rina and Richard along. Promise to do no violence while it occurs so long as they abide by the peace flag.
     
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    Because she keeps coming back, and this is just one agent. We can probably outbid her too. Figuring out the nature of her pacts in the area is also an advantage.

    Worst case? They can only go to ground back into the Feywild. Either way they can't remain here in Lys while we're aware of them. They have no choice--it's talk or run away. No third option is available to them which we do not make available, unless it includes "die" or "spare parts" in the sentence.
     
    Crake said:
    They can only go to ground back into the Feywild.
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    And that's the crux of the matter for me.

    I'm against giving a warning to an enemy's agent, an expensive agent at that, giving them a potential chance to run away.
    I'm okay blowing a middling chance to recruit a random Fey, if in turn we get better chances to actually get them.
     
    Oh shit we got a wandering Fey Market now? Thats honestly gives me happy feelings inside Pathfinder's Witch Market has always been a favorite of mine.
     
    @Crake, we don't need nearly this full a roster to deal with Ymeri's Fey.
    Please send off at least someone to find they Fey-hunters, those are no doubt scared shirtless by us being here.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    the Lord of the Goblin Market continues in his own voice, speaking clearly for sky and earth to hear: "I pledge my service under the conditions of the last iteration of the bargain discussed here. Let is be sealed, known and unaltered save by the consent of both parts. Agreed?"
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    I'm liking this guy already; mercantile people make for great minions.

    While we're still on the topic of fey, have we done anything with Crimson Lotus lately to mess with the CoS? I forget what he was supposed to be doing exactly, but it was something with trying to cause them political problems right? We might as well slap around all of our fey opposition at once, if we can do it subtly, before we turn to our other enemies.
     
    egoo said:
    @Crake, we don't need nearly this full a roster to deal with Ymeri's Fey.
    Please send off at least someone to find they Fey-hunters, those are no doubt scared shirtless by us being here.
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    I do agree with this, we can multitask here.
    BronzeTongue said:
    I'm liking this guy already; mercantile people make for great minions.

    While we're still on the topic of fey, have we done anything with Crimson Lotus lately to mess with the CoS? I forget what he was supposed to be doing exactly, but it was something with trying to cause them political problems right? We might as well slap around all of our fey opposition at once, if we can do it subtly, before we turn to our other enemies.
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    He was supposed to be an element of rebellion within the Court of Stars. He was meant to find similarly rebellious fey within the court and form a new faction hostile to the old power structure -- namely the Queen and the Slumbering King.

    For all we know he's likely dead by this point. He was an expendable element.
     
    egoo said:
    And that's the crux of the matter for me.

    I'm against giving a warning to an enemy's agent, an expensive agent at that, giving them a potential chance to run away.
    I'm okay blowing a middling chance to recruit a random Fey, if in turn we get better chances to actually get them.
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    Whack-a-mole is boring. I'm bored.

    The arc is boring me because we are pulling weeds that never stop sprouting. One thing I've noticed is that we stop having a problem from a particular vector the moment we stop treating it like resource extraction, and we have means of doing that activity in a controlled environment instead of our populated cities, from behind a dozen wards and inside of a killzone.

    The last week I've been repeatedly plugging in "[ ] Goldfish" because I've had nothing to contribute to mechanical heavy votes. If we didn't have to house keep Fey or devils or whatnot, I would have been able to push for the Crownlands or the Reach after the Stormlands this turn and had something worthwhile to contribute.

    I can't leverage "go stomp on fire fey" for shit. I can get us no long-term gains from that. I can't even posit how two more combat updates and another three updates of ruse-cruising would be fun to read about right now. I'm bored of it.
     
    Okay. Now we need a Fey District in SD, and the Goblin Market should come twice a year, during each solstice (or some narratively important phenomenon that we don't really care about)
     
    I just want to steal a Leanan Sidhe from Ymeri, and use her to eventually kill that insufferable Leanan Sidhe in the Court of Stars.
     
    egoo said:
    @Crake, we don't need nearly this full a roster to deal with Ymeri's Fey.
    Please send off at least someone to find they Fey-hunters, those are no doubt scared shirtless by us being here.
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    [X] Approach the fey muse you know to be an agent of Ymeri
    -[X] Parley via Sending. Let them name time and place. Richard and Viserys
    -[X] Further investigate the fey killings in the Goblin Market
    --[X] Rina and Malarys
     
    Whatever.
    I disagree with lots here, but I just can't bring myself to argue.

    So whatever, efficiency be damned, it's not like I am all greatly interested in this arc either, no matter the exact approach.

    [X] Crake
    G'night all.
     
    Duesal said:
    I do agree with this, we can multitask here.

    He was supposed to be an element of rebellion within the Court of Stars. He was meant to find similarly rebellious fey within the court and form a new faction hostile to the old power structure -- namely the Queen and the Slumbering King.

    For all we know he's likely dead by this point. He was an expendable element.
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    Still, we should check and see if he's stirred anything up of use. Even an introduction to a smarter element of resistance would be great.

    Crake said:
    Whack-a-mole is boring. I'm bored.

    The arc is boring me because we are pulling weeds that never stop sprouting. One thing I've noticed is that we stop having a problem from a particular vector the moment we stop treating it like resource extraction, and we have means of doing that activity in a controlled environment instead of our populated cities, from behind a dozen wards and inside of a killzone.

    The last week I've been repeatedly plugging in "[ ] Goldfish" because I've had nothing to contribute to mechanical heavy votes. If we didn't have to house keep Fey or devils or whatnot, I would have been able to push for the Crownlands or the Reach after the Stormlands this turn and had something worthwhile to contribute.

    I can't leverage "go stomp on fire fey" for shit. I can get us no long-term gains from that. I can't even posit how two more combat updates and another three updates of ruse-cruising would be fun to read about right now. I'm bored of it.
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    Just talking to her isn't going to help with that, we need a place to strike. This kind of weeding work is the place of minions, we don't need to personally wrap up every part of this. As far as we know, Yemri hasn't made any real moves here to make it worth our time.

    We can just move on to setting up for all the tables we're going to flip to allow the Deep One fight to happen unimpeded
     
    @Crake, now that we vassalized the Hooded Lord, he can work with us on both counts. He can tell us everything he's gathered on the Leanan Sidhe, and he can also send his agents to join Rina and Malarys in their investigation.
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    Still, we should check and see if he's stirred anything up of use. Even an introduction to a smarter element of resistance would be great.

    Just talking to her isn't going to help with that, we need a place to strike. This kind of weeding work is the place of minions, we don't need to personally wrap up every part of this. As far as we know, Yemri hasn't made any real moves here to make it worth our time.

    We can just move on to setting up for all the tables we're going to flip to allow the Deep One fight to happen unimpeded
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    I'm against moving on until the Leanan Sidhe is dealt with one way or another.
     
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