You know, what we could do is have Tyene put a mundane disguise on us using a super boosted skill check.

It's not a terrible idea, alchemical solutions should be readily available via extraplanar marketplace to add some truly extraordinary quality dyes, wigs and we own a clothes oriented business so high quality costuming should be easiest among the grouping of disguise items to acquire.
 
Well True Seeing inside an AMF won't work. And you'd have to do some serious finagling to get it working from outside of it, the range isn't great. Basically the logistics to doing this would basically necessitate extremely precise architectural considerations, both for the enchanting of an entire building but also to get magical effects to work from outside the range of the AMF but close enough to be able to observe inhabitants.

I gotta say, rank paranoia which limits options rather than expands considerations isn't especially popular around here. There's a quantitative difference between "we can't go to/do X, ever, it'll be very bad horrible decision" compared to "X could happen, we should maybe have some countermeasures". And yeah, even not bothering to qualify the former by using a possibility that is basically so limiting as to be the same thing counts, because there would be literally no countermeasures to employ other than not trying at all.
 
The point is, you can't ascertain people's identity through true seeing anymore, not for absolutely sure.

So, make everyone go through an AMF to be sure.

And no one expects the humble disguise skill.
 
So get this fella to let us speak there, and just go in mundanely disguised as Dywen, instead of alter shaped.

No one would expect Viserys Targaryen to put on a wig and fake mustache to infiltrate the place.

The one real problem would be having our Cloak of Khyber dispelled, so we should set up a contingency for that, so True Seeing doesn't catch us after we leave the theoretical AMF.
 
The point is, you can't ascertain people's identity through true seeing anymore, not for absolutely sure.

So, make everyone go through an AMF to be sure.

And no one expects the humble disguise skill.
I can now only imagine a pit fiend in Groucho marx glasses tip toeing through the gates of heaven.

It would make sense as a blind spot, most demons, devil's, shoggoths, and other assorted nasties can't really disguise kit themselves to look like humans.
 
Winning vote

[] Plan Putting On The Dywen Hat
-[] "Ah, fortuitous is sadly not what I would call them. I have traveled most of the realm in recent years, from the Iron Isles to the Crownlands and from the North to the Reach, Dorne and the Stormlands the only places I've yet to set foot. There were many hardships to be endured, many dark moments I bore witness too and far too little hope and brightness in between. But is it not said that it's hardships are the Smiths hammer to forge a mans character?"
-[] "Then again, for each and every monster and demon whose vile acts I came across, far too often it was not their dark touch that brought the greatest ruin to the people. It was fear, pure and simple. Fear of the unknown. Fear of the different. Fear that sprung from honest hearts in their confusion, but also fear that was poured like poison by those hungering for power over the hopeless."
-[] "I have no grand goal when I wish to speak at the conclave, no agenda to argue for and no sermons to preach. All I want is to fight that fear. To have the people remember that it es not the power of a septons frock to make it's bearer a saint, and neither that all that is not like ourselves is the work of fiends and damnation."
-[] "If I had to name one thing that I learned in my travels then it is this. By the blade and in the poisoned heart, no virtue can grow, and in these strange days, the judgement will be terrible if we forget these lessons."
 
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So get this fella to let us speak there, and just go in mundanely disguised as Dywen, instead of alter shaped.

No one would expect Viserys Targaryen to put on a wig and fake mustache to infiltrate the place.

The one real problem would be having our Cloak of Khyber dispelled, so we should set up a contingency for that, so True Seeing doesn't catch us after we leave the theoretical AMF.
"True seeing does not help the viewer see through mundane disguises"

We would have to explain our mindblank though. Or lack there of.
 
Why use a magic disguise at all?

Neither true seeing nor anti magic field will work against a mundane disguise.
 
...finally being out from Avengers (god, this movie is long), I can formulate my thoughts a bit...

And, spoiler-free, I can only but recommend it.

Knowing a... particular character's fate, kinda took away from the movie's ending for me...

But it was a wholesome ending to phase 2 nonetheless.
And no, I don't care for what the official timeline says, after this, Spider-Man 2 is not the same arc anymore.
Nuh-uh. :V

I really liked some of the nods for fans in the movie.
Hell, the reference to that old-ish "Hail Hydra" meme made me lol right there and then...
And I was alone, as apparently no one else in the theater wad the kind of a social recluse I am :o

3 hours have passed really quickly, only thing saying it's objectively long being my bladder.

Also, finally, I can surf the net without fear of spoilers.
You can't imagine the pain.
And even then I fucked that up :/

Edit: Objectively average character remained objectively average.
And the all-female scene seemed a bit weird to me in a way it was shot, but I guess that's the way it is :/
 
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AMF doesn't dispel, but True Seeing shouldn't work in it.
Yes, but they can dispel us at some point, and at that time we should be equally vulnerable to True Seeing.

So Cloak of Khyber to ward against it, a contingencied Cloak of Khyber in case they dispel it and have True Seeing on at the same time, and a mundane disguise identical to the Cloaks so it holds up under AMF.

We need the cloak so as to not have True Seeing folks see a huge red dragon hovering like a Stand over our shoulder, in case the CoK is dispelled.
 
Yes, but they can dispel us at some point, and at that time we should be equally vulnerable to True Seeing.

So Cloak of Khyber to ward against it, a contingencied Cloak of Khyber in case they dispel it and have True Seeing on at the same time, and a mundane disguise identical to the Cloaks so it holds up under AMF.

We need the cloak so as to not have True Seeing folks see a huge red dragon hovering like a Stand over our shoulder, in case the CoK is dispelled.
Fair enough.

Also, JoJo-Crossover when?
 
Part MMDCCCIV: Emissary of Peace
Emissary of Peace

Ninth Day of the Ninth Month 293 AC

You take a seat as though unaccustomed to such leisure and faintly uncomfortable with it. "Ah, fortuitous is sadly not what I would call them. I have traveled most of the realm in recent years, from the Iron Isles to the Crownlands, from the North to the Reach, with Dorne and the Stormlands the only places I've yet to set foot. There were many hardships to be endured, many dark moments I bore witness too and far too little hope and brightness in between. But is it not said that its hardships are the Smith's hammer to forge a man's character?"

The words grow stronger in the speaking as though Dywen is gaining confidence from his passion, carefully balancing the image you present. On the one hand it must be earnest enough for the good septon not to feel in any way threatened and yet also skillful enough with words do be worthy of being invited to speak before the Conclave. "Then again, for each and every monster and demon whose vile acts I came across, far too often it was not their dark touch that brought the greatest ruin to the people. It was fear, pure and simple. Fear of the unknown. Fear of the different. Fear that sprung from honest hearts in their confusion, but also fear that was poured like poison by those hungering for power over the hopeless."

"Truly these are dark times," Kyle sighs softly, his eyes growing distant as if seeming to gaze upon some unwelcome memory, such that you might almost think him sincere since were you not armed with insights born of sorcery and elder memory. "I have been mostly blessed to work with those who understand the dangers of the fear you speak, those willing to reach out, rather than strike away the hand offered in friendship. Were this another time I would gladly listen to your tales, bother, for I sense in you a wisdom hard-earned. Alas that we must now concern ourselves with spreading the truth to those who close their eyes against it rather than polishing our own understanding. Tell me, brother, what message would you bring the Conclave?"

"I have no grand goal when I wish to speak at the Conclave, no agenda to argue for and no sermons to preach. All I want is to fight that fear. To have the people remember that it is not the power of a septons frock to make its bearer a saint, and neither that all that is not like ourselves is the work of fiends and damnation," you reply truthfully, even if the way you would achieve it is very different from what Most Devout Kyle would have done. "If I had to name one thing that I learned in my travels then it is this. By the blade and in the poisoned heart, no virtue can grow, and in these strange days, the judgement will be terrible if we forget these lessons."

"Then I fear you will find little in common with Brother Lucan, my friend, for he is very much a man of the sword. That was his calling before he took his vows, you know. Alas that he does not seem to have left it behind." He pauses, more for effect than in genuine thought you would judge. "Tell me, Brother Dywen, have you learned anything of angels in your wanderings?"

You open your mouth to give an answer much as you did Lord Hightower, though of course without the practical demonstration before changing your mind at the last moment. He would trust you more if he felt he had a hand in shaping your beliefs. "I have not learned much of such things beyond the fact that even the most well-meaning spirit cannot truly know the trials and tribulations of mortality. The world has changed since Hugor walked upon the hills of Andalos, and so the Faith must change with it, not walk backwards in our own steps."

"Well said, as far as it goes," the septon offers praise as a teacher upon a student. "Such angelic spirits reflect an aspect of the righteous souls that have come before us, strong in faith and full of insights few among the living possess, but not possessed of the sublime knowledge of the Seven-Who-Are-One, so be not afraid to set your words against them at need."

Because having a barefoot wanderer do so would be ever so much more convenient for you, wouldn't it? you snort inwardly. Aloud you say only, "Thine words are fair as they are wise, Most Devout."

"Excellent," Kyle replies, and that much you believe is the full unvarnished truth. How could it not be when you have seemed to present him so perfect a pawn? "I am organizing a meeting in three days time with like-minded Godsworn and other allies of our cause, to converse on matters of the Conclave... of strategy if you will, though that has a rather more nefarious edge than it deserves. The voices of reason should stand together, after all."

You simply nod, guessing what is coming next, but not wishing to seem presumptuous.

"If you wish to attend my door is open to you. I am sure your tales will be of great use in formulating our agreements, and if you so wish I know I will be able to find two Elders willing to add their voices to mine so that you may speak at the Conclave. It would do us well to remember that not all those who would support peace and safety for the realm are great lords."

"Thank you, brother, your generosity gladdens my heart," you reply, still playing the part of the awed begging brother with the gift of a silver tongue.

What do you do next?

[] Approach the Lantern Bearers to help them deal with at least the Deep One plot you know of once and for all
-[] Write in

[] Use Archmaester Ryam's invitation to infiltrate the Citadel
-[] Write in

[] Approach one of the other factions
-[] Write in


OOC: This was supposed to be a 2 or even a 3 update conversation, but then you rolled solidly over 15 on all your checks with nat 20 thrown in while Kyle's sense motive (buffed though it was by both magic and circumstance) did not get a single roll over 11 so you just rolled over him. That said, even under the circumstances, he is not willing to guarantee entrance without first showing you to others in his faction because that would seem enormously highhanded. It's very unusual for a begging brother to speak at a Conclave of the Faith, so you still have one more step before being granted access.
 
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I am biting my tongue at not fighting harder to get Xor the nimbus of light feat.

Angels no matter their master would have gawked at attacking one so touched by the grace of heaven.

And it would have been killer for our "not all that is strange or new is wicked" push.
 
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So, we've got to:
- Finish the Deep Ones plot so they don't corrupt a Most Devout.
- Deal with Tia-chan's plot, because leaving her there is asking for dragon demons to storm the Conclave.
- Call Tyene, to always show up as Dywen with a mundane disguise under a magical one.
 
I mean come on!

Just fucking imagine Xor crashing the conclave.

All the angels looking like they are about to shit bricks, and everyone freaking out over them (and indirectly the 7) defending blatantly obvious far spawn.
 
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Since the time isn't quite right to contact the Lantern Bearers, I think, should we try to speak with another faction or infiltrate the Citadel?

Is infiltrate really even the right word? I just want us to visit the place in order to learn what we can of it's wards, defenses, and visible security features. It's too soon to really do much there.

Unfortunately, I can't think of any good reason to visit Ryam so soon after our last discussion.
 
Since the time isn't quite right to contact the Lantern Bearers, I think, should we try to speak with another faction or infiltrate the Citadel?

Is infiltrate really even the right word? I just want us to visit the place in order to learn what we can of it's wards, defenses, and visible security features. It's too soon to really do much there.

Unfortunately, I can't think of any good reason to visit Ryam so soon after our last discussion.
"Case out the citadel?"
 
[X] Pose as a wealthy but pious Westerosi wool merchant and commission a full set of the finest illuminated holy texts and scriptures of the Faith of the Seven. Say you intend to build a sept in the Crownlands.
 
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So, who wants to use the deep one plot, the bitches' plot, and the conclave to loot the citadel. That and any Misters who we would like to have.
 
[X] Pose as a wealthy but pious Westerosi wool merchant and commission a set of the finest illuminated texts and scriptures. Say you intend to build a sept in the Crownlands, for faith must be the bulwark of the realm against such trying times.

"There's a time and place for everything Viserys, and this isn't one of them."

"This is the only time and place to get illuminated scripture. I want to commemorate the occasion."

"Commemorate apostasy with displays of wealth?"

"...Dragon."

"...oh. Yeah. Okay. Checks out."
 
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