A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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They still would because the Reach is a kingdom and while it would be in vassalage the king could still have metaphisyical control over the landmass and kingdom that was the Reach. He would have control over that entire region and that is not good for how we plan on splitting the land.
That is pretty much what was on her mind at the time, punctuation marks included. She is not sure there is anything more to her wistfulness about that tourney and Boniofer in particular than just being the center of attention in a positive light and briefly being courted by someone who wasn't Aerys, but in the end she decided there wasn't anything wrong in talking to the man especially since he looked so down about losing.
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What place is Ser Bonifer in? What gear did he win?
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Jesus Christ, Ser Barristan is apparently an unmitigated gossip. How on earth did he take this and then believe the two of them had an affair?
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@TotallyNotEvil, we tried exactly what you want, offering the crown for fealty, right then and there on the Redwyne ship. We were told to go fuck ourselves and DP confirmed that the Fey will use hostile action against us to get it if we don't hand it over willingly.
Their plan and desire is to awaken their kibd and become an independent kingdom with the Reach as their kingdom. This isn't a desperation move. That's what they want.
So their position is:
- gib crown
- gib Reach clay
Ours is:
- gib fealty
And both sides agree that the demands of the other are unacceptable. What do you assume would change if we talk to their queen? That they are so awed by our Draconic girth that she suddenly folds like a paper towel?
Their plan and desire is to awaken their kibd and become an independent kingdom with the Reach as their kingdom. This isn't a desperation move. That's what they want.
So their position is:
- gib crown
- gib Reach clay
Ours is:
- gib fealty
And both sides agree that the demands of the other are unacceptable. What do you assume would change if we talk to their queen? That they are so awed by our Draconic girth that she suddenly folds like a paper towel?
Well he is among the final 8 so that would be 250 Imperial Marks, Valyrian Steel Dagger (SD Festival Edition), a +1 weapon, +1 suit of armor, +1 shield, and a new horse (of a type of their choosing) with horse barding of choice.
He was sadly too close to Aerys for far too long and Aerys was a paranoid lunatic.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Personally, I don't see any point in further doing any diplomacy with them (for now) either.
Unless we get a stronger footing, like this very narrative of Rebellion we're introducing with this Fey Prince, we'll just waste time and make them more focused on acting against us.
No thanks.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Bonnifer seems like more than a man who got in over his head and decided to court "the Realm's Delight" as with all of Rhaenyra's suitors, it seems more like he genuinely has feelings for her, not that he feels entitled to be with the "realm's more beauteous maiden", etc.
So a firmer foundation for a courtship than this situation would usually imply, though obviously nothing of our business.
I am content to just watch.
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I kinda doubt Barristan would take Aerys' insane ramblings and suspicions seriously.
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Oh right papa dearest. It always comes back to papa dearest. Honestly someone should have replaced him a long time ago.
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Remember Aerys did not start out as a a paranoid wreck too afraid to let anyone cut his nails or beard. Back when he first floated those suspicions a few years after his marriage he was still quite charming and personable and he was the king, that carried a lot of trust as far as Baristan was concerned at the time.
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Hear these ramblings long enough and they kinda seep into you mind unknowingly. Add a observation or two you personally made and that would vaguely fit...
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And here's where you are wrong.
Dusk Dancer literally couldn't accept the proposal, and initially thought we were blowing her off with a purposefully overambitious offer.
She did not think we were serious.
She said we'd have to talk to the Queen to negotiate the courts fealty.
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About Barristan and Aerys...
It's like spending too much time on /pol/
You think you're fine, but then your instinctive reactions to certain types of news start to change... And then one day people start telling you you're racist, when you're really not ! Right ?!?
rofl:rofl:rofl:
It's like spending too much time on /pol/
You think you're fine, but then your instinctive reactions to certain types of news start to change... And then one day people start telling you you're racist, when you're really not ! Right ?!?
rofl:rofl:rofl:The other way to become racist beyond "being raised that way" is spending too long lurking on "ethnic Facebook groups" (dunno if I'm translating it right) like FACEISLAMOO, where the mods don't give a damn about racist/sexist/homophobic hate speech and that are avoided by normal people. You go there and you'll see tens of thousands of the worst kind of people, arguing that killing female cops isn't murder because they're women doing a man's job or making long pseudo-religious arguments to explain that it's okay to break french anti-kidnapping and anti-rape laws if it's to kidnap your own relatives, rape them, and bring them back to Tunisia for a forced marriage
EDIT: both of these examples were taken from today. This isn't cherry-picking, just scrolling through as I wrote this little rant
Of course these people are just a tiny minority, but seeing them all together with no-one opposing them (because no-one wants to spend time in these online shitholes) is the kind of thing that breeds new alt-righters.
Oh, and of course my inner grammar-freak dies inside whenever I go there. They don't speak arabic (they're the grandchildren of immigrants pretending to be tough guys/girls from the country - actual Arabs and Africans from their home countries don't like these people either apparently) but they certainly don't speak French either...
EDIT: both of these examples were taken from today. This isn't cherry-picking, just scrolling through as I wrote this little rant
Of course these people are just a tiny minority, but seeing them all together with no-one opposing them (because no-one wants to spend time in these online shitholes) is the kind of thing that breeds new alt-righters.
Oh, and of course my inner grammar-freak dies inside whenever I go there. They don't speak arabic (they're the grandchildren of immigrants pretending to be tough guys/girls from the country - actual Arabs and Africans from their home countries don't like these people either apparently) but they certainly don't speak French either...
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You are naive if you think a court of that power will swear to us when the only leverage we have is to withhold an item from them that would vastly increase their power even further.
My goal is to gain us leverage by exploiting stories and diplomacy. I'm not sure what you intend to offer them in return for squashing all their ambitions and their eternal fealty.
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And also show alternatives. Glyra. Moonsong. Shadow Fae. It's not an unmitigated 'serve or die', it's 'change your ways so we can live with each other or suffer consequences'.
She was also passive aggressive and argued dishonestly to keep Redwyne on her side, the fey did not exactly greet you with open arms. I'm not saying you can't negotiate with them, jut reminding you guys that the relationship started quite antagonistically, with you grabbing a relic they had been looking for and them throwing up metaphorical barricades.
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No. That would be open to our enemies, too. And that would mean the quest dies because you cannot run something this complex on different interwoven timelines. As a mere human, I mean.
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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Hmm, I think I see a Time Dragon in there.
No wait, more than one. You can never be sure.
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@DragonParadox, what Fey Courts do we know about in Essos?
So there's Silore of the Lhorulu [Fey Lady/Blodeuwedd] set up somewhere in the Rhoyne who's looking to get official recognition from us over the lands she's already claimed. I'm assuming she's prepared to swear fealty to the Viserys and the Imperium and build up her own subordinate court.
Are there any others we know about, either in the Rhoyne or in Myr or whatever ones are in Volantis?
So there's Silore of the Lhorulu [Fey Lady/Blodeuwedd] set up somewhere in the Rhoyne who's looking to get official recognition from us over the lands she's already claimed. I'm assuming she's prepared to swear fealty to the Viserys and the Imperium and build up her own subordinate court.
Are there any others we know about, either in the Rhoyne or in Myr or whatever ones are in Volantis?
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This was a joke...
When it comes to making levelup decisions or building Constructs, I always argue against making things too powerful. I jsut allow myself to remind people how absurd RAW D&D can get, power-level wise!
Duesal is one of the quest's main leaders, and he literally demands Dragons to kill and render down for parts
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Well, the dispel attempt when we crossed the sea to come aboard set the tone quite nicely ...