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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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LonelyWolf999 said:
Neat. The initial idea I had was that the tourney winners would be becoming counts, basically significant lords over choice lands. More generally, we'll be giving knights who prove their loyalty, talent, or are related to someone important, minor keeps in lands confiscated from deceased or exiled magisters, or fresh areas in the Golden Fields. We should be able to crank out McCastles fairly quickly.

@Azel - was that post with the theoretical imperial ranks threadmarked? I remember something about landed knights being turned in Barons.
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Here: A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover | Page 11139

For count level titles, we don't have that many options yet:
- Western Disputed Lands (earmarked for Uthero)
- Southern Disputed Lands
- Northern Disputed Lands (a bit iffy politically, we should rather grant this to a Myrish)
- Daughters March (also iffy, better let this remain in Myrish hands)
- Eastern Flatlands (pretty lawless backwater, so we could put a Westerosi here)
- Golden Fields
- Draconys
- Western Basilisk Isles
- The Three Snakes (this one should be Salladhors, though that's not formalized yet)
- Eastern Basilisk Isles
 
Artemis1992 said:
She might actually just keep the VS armor.

She doesn't need it now, but on level 13 it would be a good choice, I think?
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By then she'll probably be in heavily customized armor.

Here's her current suit;
Glamered Reinforced Segmented Mithral Fullplate (+3): Armor Class: +12, Max Dexterity Bonus: +3, Armor Check Penalty: -3, Arcane Spell Failure: 25%, Speed: 30ft, Weight: 27.5 pounds
  • Upon command, the armor changes shape and appearance to assume the form of a normal set of clothing. The armor retains all its properties (including weight) when it is so disguised. Only a True Seeing spell or similar magic reveals the true nature of the armor when it is disguised.
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Soon it will have the Celestial enchantment on it, too.
 
DragonParadox said:
Yes though none of the ones that made it far enough to be in an interlude fight other than ser Bonifer and he is not sure if he wants that life.
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I'm sure that once Rhealla publicly shows herself again I'm sure that Bonifer will do whatever he can not mess up second chance with only woman he has ever truly loved, and she certainly deserves being happy with someone that from all accounts she loved back.
 
OK vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Azel on Mar 13, 2019 at 9:14 AM, finished with 80 posts and 16 votes.
  • [X] Plan For Tonight And Tomorrow (Including Engagement)
    -[X] Tonight:
    --[X] Try to figure out how Sam got his magic.
    --[X] Viserys, Dany and Lya take Samwell to meet Teana, assuming that she (there's no way she doesn't) keeps evening hours in the Scholarium.
    ---[X] On the way there, explain that there are many more ways than just the one to slay monsters, and that you yourself have rarely wielded a blade of steel against them. Lya and Dany not at all.
    ---[X] In this world of awakening magic, it is often that very thing that cuts deepest against the dangers it has returned to the world. Or simply reveals them.
    ---[X] Make it clear that you are in no way offended by his use of magesight, but rather intrigued as to how he learnt to use it.
    ---[X] If he is curious or asks you why you look so mundane under magesight, explain the effects of a Greater Ribbon to him, then let him take another peak with the aura suppression off.
    ---[X] Be on hand as Teana explains the Scholarium.
    -[X] Tomorrow Morning:
    --[X] Melee Finale: Asha Greyjoy vs. Velaena Valaryon (no relation to Valaena Velaryon)
    -[X] Tomorrow Afternoon:
    --[X] Melee Finale: Sandor Clegane vs. Moberyn Artell (no relation to Oberyn Martell)
    -[X] Tomorrow Evening:
    --[X] Watch the play that will be performed in the harbor together with Lya.
    --[X] Get a nice spot on a roof or balcony and have a simple picnic with her, using Invisibility Sphere to have some privacy.
    --[X] Use this private moment, reminiscent of the simpler days back in Braavos, to propose to her.
    [X] Plan For Tonight And Tomorrow (Including Engagement)
    -[X] Tonight:
    --[X] Try to figure out how Sam got his magic.
    --[X] Viserys, Dany and Lya take Samwell to meet Teana, assuming that she (there's no way she doesn't) keeps evening hours in the Scholarium.
    ---[X] On the way there, explain that there are many more ways than just the one to slay monsters, and that you yourself have rarely wielded a blade of steel against them. Lya and Dany not at all.
    ---[X] In this world of awakening magic, it is often that very thing that cuts deepest against the dangers it has returned to the world. Or simply reveals them.
    ---[X] Make it clear that you are in no way offended by his use of magesight, but rather intrigued as to how he learnt to use it.
    ---[X] If he is curious or asks you why you look so mundane under magesight, explain the effects of a Greater Ribbon to him, then let him take another peak with the aura suppression off.
    ---[X] Be on hand as Teana explains the Scholarium.
    -[X] Tomorrow Morning:
    --[X] Melee Finale: Asha Greyjoy vs. Velaena Valaryon (no relation to Valaena Velaryon)
    -[X] Tomorrow Afternoon:
    --[X] Melee Finale: Sandor Clegane vs. Moberyn Artell (no relation to Oberyn Martell)
    -[X] Tomorrow Evening:
    --[X] Watch the play that will be performed in the harbor together with Lya.
    --[X] Get a nice spot on a roof or balcony and have a simple picnic with her, using Invisibility Sphere to have some privacy.
    --[X] Use this private moment, reminiscent of the simpler days back in Braavos, to propose to her.
    -[X] No proposal to Lya
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Azel said:
Why not simply make her VS plate Glammered and Celestial? She seems unbothered by the ASF anyway.
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That's an option for later, but right now her class feature that let's her cast in Medium armor allows her to use Mithral fullplate because it counts for one category lighter. She won't be able to do that with non-Mithral armor until level 13.
 
Goldfish said:
That's an option for later, but right now her class feature that let's her cast in Medium armor allows her to use Mithral fullplate because it counts for one category lighter. She won't be able to do that with non-Mithral armor until level 13.
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Ah... that explains that. I was wondering why there was nothing mitigating the ASF.
 
@LonelyWolf999, there is actually a place where Valaena would get a naval theme, use her status as a Dragonrider to quell otherwise heavy unrest and where it would be stupendously poetic to set her up.

New Ghis
 
Snowfire said:
This post is rated 3000% positive on SnowfireSupport.com :V

Seriously though, this is entirely right. Intimacy in a proposal makes it special. That
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tarrangar said:
He's not trying to wiggle Egoo out of his contract, he's suspecting that Egoo is a soulless abomination, and so cheated you, by offering you something he didn't have.

Which would of course make your contract with MrSean invalid, as if Egoo don't have a soul, then you bet something that don't exist for your stake, and if your stake didn't exist, then MrSean shouldn't owe you his stake.
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Well if they bet something they didn't have then the one who didn't receive their payment should enact getting a pound of flesh Shakespearean style.
 
Crake said:
She would need a Legion and an Anti-Assassination Corps. Some Erinyes would probably enjoy that job, though.
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Her chain is alreadya great option to resist most direct assassins.

It can see you, it can hear your heart beat, it wants your blood.

For poison there's magic and most "accidents" don't matter when you have enough HP to facetank maximal falling damage.
 
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Azel said:
@LonelyWolf999, there is actually a place where Valaena would get a naval theme, use her status as a Dragonrider to quell otherwise heavy unrest and where it would be stupendously poetic to set her up.

New Ghis
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It ain't really that big a deal for me, I just thought it was appropriate for her also to get an island in the Narrow Sea. I agree setting her up in Westeros would be ideal.
 
Crake said:
Hah.

She would need a Legion and an Anti-Assassination Corps. Some Erinyes would probably enjoy that job, though.
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That's true for literally anyone we set up there. The Ghiscari will fucking hate us. Frothing at the mouth hate us.

Well, I do plan to placate them by rebuilding Old Ghis under a acceptable (read: loyal) Ghiscari ruler. But keeping New Ghis in the Imperial Lands would be great for us, as it provides a neat presence in central Essos for us.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
What do you guess?
20% higher percentage of magisters being stupid enough to get themselves killed than Tyrosh? Or more?
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I'm expecting over 95% losses in the ruling class. This ain't a joke or an exaggeration. A Valyrian ruler comes with dragons to break the power of the Ghiscari, abolishing slavery and thus pretty much the only industry in the entire region, and casting down their harpy temples in favor of his own gods.

That is... well... I think we could find a way to offend them more, but I can't think of anything right now and it will take quite some effort to find something.
 
Azel said:
I'm expecting over 95% losses in the ruling class. This ain't a joke or an exaggeration. A Valyrian ruler comes with dragons to break the power of the Ghiscari, abolishing slavery and thus pretty much the only industry in the entire region, and casting down their harpy temples in favor of his own gods.

That is... well... I think we could find a way to offend them more, but I can't think of anything right now and it will take quite some effort to find something.
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And nothing of value was lost. :smile:
 
Azel said:
I'm expecting over 95% losses in the ruling class. This ain't a joke or an exaggeration. A Valyrian ruler comes with dragons to break the power of the Ghiscari, abolishing slavery and thus pretty much the only industry in the entire region, and casting down their harpy temples in favor of his own gods.

That is... well... I think we could find a way to offend them more, but I can't think of anything right now and it will take quite some effort to find something.
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I am completely fine with this.
 
Azel said:
I'm expecting over 95% losses in the ruling class. This ain't a joke or an exaggeration. A Valyrian ruler comes with dragons to break the power of the Ghiscari, abolishing slavery and thus pretty much the only industry in the entire region, and casting down their harpy temples in favor of his own gods.

That is... well... I think we could find a way to offend them more, but I can't think of anything right now and it will take quite some effort to find something.
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We could throw them into the giant golden toilet with chains on them. We can make a mini festival of it call it the great cleansing by getting rid of all the shit. Will gave snacks and stuff it'll be a joyous event.
 
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Azel said:
I'm expecting over 95% losses in the ruling class. This ain't a joke or an exaggeration. A Valyrian ruler comes with dragons to break the power of the Ghiscari, abolishing slavery and thus pretty much the only industry in the entire region, and casting down their harpy temples in favor of his own gods.

That is... well... I think we could find a way to offend them more, but I can't think of anything right now and it will take quite some effort to find something.
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Even Dany didn't have that many willing to die to oppose her.

And she had far less and worse idea for returning the economy back to a healthy state that smart ex-masters can profit from.

No army in history has been willing to die for a cause, or money, or really anything in that percentage.
I doubt fat slavetraders will be more steadfast once the first one or two waves of executions are done.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Even Dany didn't have that many willing to die to oppose her.

And she had far less and worse idea for returning the economy back to a healthy state that smart ex-masters can profit from.

No army in history has been willing to die for a cause, or money, or really anything in that percentage.
I doubt fat slavetraders will be more steadfast once the first one or two waves of executions are done.
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There will be a few small organizations trying to get foreign powers to destroy us and try to sabotage us. It won't be effective. In fact we can make it beneficial.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Even Dany didn't have that many willing to die to oppose her.

And she had far less and worse idea for returning the economy back to a healthy state that smart ex-masters can profit from.

No army in history has been willing to die for a cause, or money, or really anything in that percentage.
I doubt fat slavetraders will be more steadfast once the first one or two waves of executions are done.
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No, she didn't have that many people willing to die to openly oppose her. EVERYONE wanted her dead, in practical terms, unless they were slaves or just too persistently terrified of her, and she did not do much ongoing terrorizing anyway. She just killed their patriarchs and other influential heads of houses and hoped their spirit would be crushed. And then let that canker fester.

The minute any organized resistance manifested we would crush it, which would stir the more panicky sorts into fucking up sooner, leading to more deaths and purges, leading to more outrage and more rebellion, leading to more crushing of dissidence.

Hence, 95% of the ruling class.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Even Dany didn't have that many willing to die to oppose her.

And she had far less and worse idea for returning the economy back to a healthy state that smart ex-masters can profit from.

No army in history has been willing to die for a cause, or money, or really anything in that percentage.
I doubt fat slavetraders will be more steadfast once the first one or two waves of executions are done.
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I would be careful there. There are actually quite a few examples in history and when the harpies meddle enough, we might get exactly that state of affairs.
Also, 95% of the ruling class isn't the same as 95% of the population. Dany started her rule by pretty much killing 100% of the ruling class of Mereen after all.

And better to plan for the worst-case then hoping for the best-case.
 
Crake said:
The minute any organized resistance manifested we would crush it, which would stir the more panicky sorts into fucking up sooner, leading to more deaths and purges, leading to more outrage and more rebellion, leading to more crushing of dissidence.
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See and here I would expect the more paniky ones to realize, after one or to failed attempts, that direct resistance is not sane or survivable.
 
Artemis1992 said:
See and here I would expect the more paniky ones to realize, after one or to failed attempts, that direct resistance is not sane or survivable.
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I was folding "indirect" resistance under that umbrella too. As in, we would crush them economically, or militarily, but they would still be crushed.
 
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