If I was the QM I'd rule that if you fast-age a dragon's body, their soul and magic (which of course is what actually powers their unnatural ability to grow) doesn't keep up and you find yourself with a dragon that's still the same size category, only old and decrepit.
 
Valaena has come so far since we first acquired her! We fed her a steady diet of level appropriate monsters, watered her with the blood of foes spanning three continents, and garbed her in the wealth of a small kingdom.

I want her father to have a fucking heart attack upon learning what we've made of his daughter. We can fix him up afterward. :evil:
 
I want her father to have a fucking heart attack upon learning what we've made of his daughter. We can fix him up afterward. :evil:

Sadly for your desires, he already knows. We can never have a scene like this :(

"I swear, my Lord, your fine nubile daughter just appeared in my custody one day! I assure you, however, there is not a hair out of place!"

"She is garbed for battle! She is at command of vast cosmic powers! SHE WEARS MEN'S BREECHES!!!"

"I know... don't they grow up so fast?"

It saddens me.

This plus Aging Greater Curse plus Yss' curse means that we can permakill people, in an ethically acceptable way?

I mean. Without soul destruction

That's...actually a pretty damn good point, yes.
 
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Dragon aging is special enough that I would say no, even dong it with a carefully prepared ritual and the favor of Tiamat is not 100% safe for the dragon.
It's been noted that a big part of the benefits dragons get from aging comes from experience as much as simply their body maturing. If we were going to argument Viserys like that, I'd rule that our bonuses would come purely from physical attributes - increasing in size, scales being harder, etc - while the other bonuses wouldn't apply.
 
I don't think so? IIRC, he knows she's got a Valyrian Dragon and that she's been learning magic, but I thought she was carefully filtering what information he received?

They've met in person since she started going out to kick people in the teeth for loot and xp. And I'm all but certain he found out the truth of what she'd been up to there.
 
They've met in person since she started going out to kick people in the teeth for loot and xp. And I'm all but certain he found out the truth of what she'd been up to there.
Seeing her, in armor or possibly hiding in under a Glamer, is a far cry from knowing she's a badass adventurer who makes it all the way to the finals of a melee tournament like ours.

@DragonParadox How close is Valaena to reaching level 8?
 
For the sake of round numbers, can we instead give them Monkey Grip and full weapon, armor and shield proficiencies for 500 IM, with the Praetorian Blade having the special ability that it can be wielded one-handed by people having Monkey Grip without penalty?

Sure that sounds fair.

Seeing her, in armor or possibly hiding in under a Glamer, is a far cry from knowing she's a badass adventurer who makes it all the way to the finals of a melee tournament like ours.

@DragonParadox How close is Valaena to reaching level 8?

She she wins the melee she levels.
 
She she wins the melee she levels.
Neat. If she was willing to use Wraithstrike and Mirror Image in this fight, I hope she'll go the extra mile for the next fight and use Dragon's Hide as well. DR 5/Adamantine can make a huge difference...assuming her opponent isn't equipped with Adamantine or Valyrian Steel.
 
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  • [X] Things to show Horas
    -[X] Start with small talk. Ask him about news of the Reach and Westeros, of his journey here, how he finds Sorcerer's Deep and the Grand Festival, etc. Be sure to answer any preliminary questions he might have.
    -[X] Take him on a tour around your capital for any places that might interest him. The Menagerie, the Everfire Forge, etc.
    -[X] Along the way share stories of your and Waymar's exile with the intent of making Horas at least a bit more at ease.
    -[X] Afterwards, take him to the Shadow Tower so that you can speak freely, and greet him as Horas Redwyne, representative of his father Lord Redwyne
    -[X] "When your father and I last spoke, there was much I wished to show him but could not under the circumstances. There has been good reason that my gaze has not been turned west, and good reason for my support of the Night's Watch."
    -[X] Proceed to carefully give him the rundown of the various horrors you've been warring against -- Deep Ones, Fiends, Hostile Fey, etc -- using the Trophy Room for props. Explain the cults you've had to deal with, the sabotage, etc.
    -[X] "And then there is what lurks in the Farthest North..."
    --[X] Explain to Horas of the existence of the Others and their impending return. Show him the Mythic Ancient Wight Lord you've trapped as proof even beyond the Trophies you already have.
    --[X] "This is why I've aligned with the Old Gods. This is why I support the Night's Watch to such an extent. It is not some ploy to win the North to my side, it's because the Night's Watch and the Wall are the only thing between us and the Long Night."
    --[X] Tell Horas how the Others and their minions may be fought, and what you've been doing to support the Night's Watch, up to and including giving them dragonsteel blades.
 
Oberyn would crush Valaena, people. He has several levels on her (so good BaB to challenge her excellent AC), equivalent weapons, and an item of Globe of Invulnerability that would shut down all her magic.

By the way, does anyone have Oberyn's stats?
 
Oberyn would crush Valaena, people. He has several levels on her (so good BaB to challenge her excellent AC), equivalent weapons, and an item of Globe of Invulnerability that would shut down all her magic.

By the way, does anyone have Oberyn's stats?
Name: Oberyn Nymeros Martell
Alias: Prince of Dorne, Red Viper
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Class: Fighter 3/Swashbuckler 8
Feats: Feats: Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Longspear), Weapon Finese, Weapon Specialization (Longspear), Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (Longspear)
Skill Tricks: ???
Class Features: Grace, Insightful Strike, Dodge Bonus, Acrobatic Charge, Improved Flanking

HP: 110
AC: 10 +2 (Dodge Bonus) +5 (DEX) + 2 (luck from an item) +5 (Armor) +2 (vs Evil) = 24/26
Attack (Spear of True Death): +15/+10/+5 [1d8 +2d6(Negative or Positive energy) +5]
Weapon Proficiency: Longspear
Immunities: Possession/Mental Control
SR: 5 + 11 (Character Level) = 16

Special: 1/week Soul-Slaying: Before rolling you may declare one normal attack as a coup de grace except for the fact that it does not automatically crit or even hit. If the enemy fails the fortitude save against the damage inflicted they die instantly, counts as death effect.

STATS:
12 (+1) Strength
15 (+2) Constitution
18 +2 = 20 (+5) Dexterity
16 (+3) Charisma
12 (+1) Intelligence
10 +4 = 14 (+2) Wisdom

Saves: (+2 vs Evil)
Fortitude: 12 +2 = 12/14
Reflex: 7 +1 (Grace) +2 = 8/10
Will: 5 +2 = 5/7

Special: 1 re-roll/day

Skills:
Balance: 6 +5 (DEX) = 11
Bluff: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Diplomacy: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Intimidate: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Tumble: 7 +5 (DEX) = 12
Sense Motive: 14 +2 (WIS) = 16
Swim: 8
Use Magic Device: 10

SLAs (from magic items):

Lesser Globe of Invulnerability 3/day
Mirror Image 3/day
Detect Magic: Constant

Items: Armor of Spell Resistance (+1), Gloves of Zephyr's Grace (+2), Amulet of Protection from Evil, True-Flame (Spear of True Death), Cloak of Resistance, Potions ???, Item of Constant Detect Magic, Item of Mirror Image, Item of Lesser Globe of Invulnerability, Talisman of Wisdom (+2), Item of Luck (+2)
 
I saw this somewhere else, but wasn't Tywin dismissed as hand for a while before the rebellion came rolling in? And that by the end of the rebellion the crown treasure was full?

Didn't Aerys burn down a lot of that money during the civil war?

Some people believe that the then current Master of Coin was simply that good to keep up with sound fiscal polices, but it would be funny if Viserys economic prowess were also more directly inherited by Aerys who was a Fiscal Wizard.

It probably didn't happen, but I find the whole set up funny.

What do you think, @DragonParadox ?
 
Oberyn would crush Valaena, people. He has several levels on her (so good BaB to challenge her excellent AC), equivalent weapons, and an item of Globe of Invulnerability that would shut down all her magic.

By the way, does anyone have Oberyn's stats?

Here:

Name: Oberyn Nymeros Martell
Alias: Prince of Dorne, Red Viper
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Class: Fighter 3/Swashbuckler 8
Feats: Feats: Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Longspear), Weapon Finese, Weapon Specialization (Longspear), Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (Longspear)
Skill Tricks: ???
Class Features: Grace, Insightful Strike, Dodge Bonus, Acrobatic Charge, Improved Flanking

HP: 110
AC: 10 +2 (Dodge Bonus) +5 (DEX) + 2 (luck from an item) +5 (Armor) +2 (vs Evil) = 24/26
Attack (Spear of True Death): +15/+10/+5 [1d8 +2d6(Negative or Positive energy) +5]
Weapon Proficiency: Longspear
Immunities: Possession/Mental Control
SR: 5 + 11 (Character Level) = 16

Special: 1/week Soul-Slaying: Before rolling you may declare one normal attack as a coup de grace except for the fact that it does not automatically crit or even hit. If the enemy fails the fortitude save against the damage inflicted they die instantly, counts as death effect.

STATS:
12 (+1) Strength
15 (+2) Constitution
18 +2 = 20 (+5) Dexterity
16 (+3) Charisma
12 (+1) Intelligence
10 +4 = 14 (+2) Wisdom

Saves: (+2 vs Evil)
Fortitude: 12 +2 = 12/14
Reflex: 7 +1 (Grace) +2 = 8/10
Will: 5 +2 = 5/7

Special: 1 re-roll/day

Skills:
Balance: 6 +5 (DEX) = 11
Bluff: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Diplomacy: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Intimidate: 14 +3 (CHA) = 17
Tumble: 7 +5 (DEX) = 12
Sense Motive: 14 +2 (WIS) = 16
Swim: 8
Use Magic Device: 10

SLAs (from magic items):

Lesser Globe of Invulnerability 3/day
Mirror Image 3/day
Detect Magic: Constant

Items: Armor of Spell Resistance (+1), Gloves of Zephyr's Grace (+2), Amulet of Protection from Evil, True-Flame (Spear of True Death), Cloak of Resistance, Potions ???, Item of Constant Detect Magic, Item of Mirror Image, Item of Lesser Globe of Invulnerability, Talisman of Wisdom (+2), Item of Luck (+2)
 
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