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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Snowfire said:
A Fullblade is 23 lbs. Praetorian Blade is 25. It's a weapon that would be a greatsword for an ogre. And the Praetorian are going to wield them one handed. On that note, how much would you ballpark 'injecting' that sort of skill into them as part of the conversion process?
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Alright, I thought you were still at 35 lb. since I didn't check back to your write-up.

Personally, I don't see a need to specifically inject it. Proficiencies can be trained in ASWAH, Praetori get sufficiently martial builds and they have the attributes to pull this off.
 
Azel said:
Alright, I thought you were still at 35 lb. since I didn't check back to your write-up.

Personally, I don't see a need to specifically inject it. Proficiencies can be trained in ASWAH, Praetori get sufficiently martial builds and they have the attributes to pull this off.
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The weapon as designed is a Two-Handed Exotic Weapon. The Praetorians will basically require something like Powerful Build or a special trait to use them one-handed.
 
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Interlude CDIV: By Sword and Spell
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    • By Sword and Spell ​

    Twenty-Fourth Day of the Eighth Month 293 AC

    Two more fights and I'll have won it all. The thought was admittedly prideful, but Valaena figured she had earned it fairly with all the cuts, bruises, and broken bones she had suffered throughout the tournament. Part of her, a very small very silly part, was disappointed to be facing off against Ser Storm and not the Red Viper whose match would be right after hers. That would be a hell of a tale to tell back home, one a good bit more relatable than 'I killed a wight that had been entombed in the Wall' or 'a monster of living stone beneath a ruined city that does not show up on any map'.

    Keep your head in the game,     the young woman reminded herself as she stepped out onto the sands. The man she would be fighting today had been skilled enough to defeat a Red Priest who had been winning melees since before she had been out of the nursery and blessed by his god besides. Just as the thought crossed her mind, Ser Criston Storm decided to prove he was skilled in something else by bowing with a dramatic flourish.

    "I pray the horns sound soon lest I be slain by your beauty alone, fair maiden," he proclaimed with a glint of laughter in his eyes, though he seemed to be laughing more at the situation, himself included, than at her.

    "You put me at a disadvantage, Ser," Valaena replied archly. "Curtsying in leggings is as awkward as a frog on stilts." If one could look past the fact that he was probably three times her age the knight was actually quite presentable, she had to admit very, very privately to herself. Of course, the compliment would have been more flattering if he had actually been complimenting her and not the glamour she wore, but she would not scoff at praise to her good taste either. After all, she had crafted the seeming.

    "I have seen you fight far too often to ever dream of calling you awkward," the knight replied. "One can hope you are a touch less adroit in this battle than your last two."

    Did that...? Valaena felt a laugh bubble to her lips. He was actually flirting with her to distract her. Fair enough, if he was going to use all of his tricks than so would she. No hesitation in using the full weight of her magic on this one, then, though she would still have to be careful. He had clearly fought mages before and for higher stakes than cheers and gold.

    As the horns called and the crowd's voice reached its crescendo the Stormlander charged, the spikes upon his shield glinting like a gorgon's horns, but Valaena did not charge to meet him. She simply waited still as a statue until the very last moment, making no gesture to avoid the sweeping arc of his bastard sword.

    "Vyr Thelis!" she called, 'wind step' in Valyrian. No sooner had the words passed her lips that she was two long steps back from where he had been standing, out of reach of sword and shield, but not of her chain. Yet though the hell-forged metal lashed out at the knight's armor it found no purpose, and though it sought to coil around his knees it could bind him. Even as he waded through her reach the heavy plate and deftly wielded shield shed her blows like water, her weapon practically vibrating in rage at the failure.

    As that same shield came arcing towards her head Valaena flinched just a bit too far to the right to avoid it, an error painfully repaid as edged steel bit into her shoulder, parting flesh and scraping against bone.

    With a few choice swearwords, more at her own carelessness than her opponent, Valaena stepped back again by sorcery, this time to utter a spell of her own. Where once she stood alone now four figments whirled and danced through the air, four chains lashing like a storm of steel against the knight's renewed charge. "I figured since you liked one of me, more would be a welcome sight," she taunted lightly.

    And yet again, as though by prescient skill, he warded away the true weapon with his shield, but this time one blow of his sword dispelled a glamour and the second was turned harmlessly aside by Valaena's own silvered plate. "One should not imitate..."

    What precisely one should not imitate Valaena never did learn for her chain now turned pearly white through a swiftly whispered spell and slipped through the armor like a wraith's touch to tear at the flesh beneath. This time when the sword swung low she caught it with one end of her chain and lashed at his face with the other.

    Again and again the twice ensorcelled chain whipped through the air, contemptuous of common steel as it scoured the flesh beneath, yet still the knight's sword found her amid glamour and trickery, cutting deep into her knee. Valaena tasted blood as she bit her tongue against the pain. One more hit like that and she was done, but then Ser Criston hardly looked any better for it as he stumbled over her weapon's entangling coils with little of the ease he had shown before.

    Another blow slipped through his armor, sending him reeling back... This time he could not slip the snare. The knight fell, sprawled across the sand. Rather that try to rise to his feet in the face of her chain he tried to strike at her ankles. Valaena could feel the wind of the sword's passage as she jumped... and struck, the chain wrenching his sword arm out of alignment with a painful crack.

    "I yield, I yield," he hissed through gritted teeth.

    "I'm sorry," Valaena said a little sheepishly as she reached down to heal him with the power woven into her own belt before the adept on call could reach them. "I didn't much fancy having my foot cut off, so I just..."

    "Perfectly understandable," Ser Criston replied with a smile, dusting himself off. "I can fairly say the match went to the most skillful fighter."

    That praise warmed her far more than any of his previous attempts.

    OOC: Thanks to a lucky crit Ser Criston came within 1 point on his attack of possibly defeating Valaena while he was prone. In any case she is off to the finals.
     
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    • Snowfire said:
    The weapon as designed is a Two-Handed Exotic Weapon. The Praetorians will basically require something like Powerful Build or a special trait to use them one-handed.
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    That's the thing -- all proficiencies can be trained in this quest. It might just take them a while to get used to it, but it shouldn't need a trait.
     
    Duesal said:
    That's the thing -- all proficiencies can be trained in this quest. It might just take them a while to get used to it, but it shouldn't need a trait.
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    The proficiency would give them the ability to use it as a Two Handed Weapon. Not a one-handed weapon. That's the point of the special Trait/Feat.
     
    Massgamer said:
    Val has come far.

    Just realized that if Asha wins her own fight that means the heirs of two sea fairing Houses will fight each other which aught to be neat. Still have no idea what the blessing they got from earlier does either.
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    It also means that that final will have two of our technical wards squaring off against each other. I think Valaena has a good chance of winning, her gear appears much better than Asha's, but I could be missing something.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    Hmm... I can't find a canon spell with multiple augments.

    I'd say the lower level augment does not automatically apply, though you can pay for a double augment as part of the same casting.
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    The only canon example here would be augments that you can pay more to apply for additional effects at higher tiers. There are few examples of this, but in all cases it's "Pay extra for this effect" and none of them have anything as obscenely spectacular as Shadow of the Doom's 8th Tier one. Which I still maintain should require Tier 9 for it's massive AoE augment. Fire Storm's Tier 8 Augment is "Exclude x Creature Type from the effect". That seems just a teensy bit less powerful than 'the mountain range offended me.'
     
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    Snowfire said:
    The only canon example here would be augments that you can pay more to apply for additional effects at higher tiers. There are few examples of this, but in all cases it's "Pay extra for this effect" and none of them have anything as obscenely spectacular as Shadow of the Doom's 8th Tier one. Which I still maintain should require Tier 9 for it's massive AoE augment. Fire Storm's Tier 8 Augment is "Exclude x Creature Type from the effect". That seems just a teensy bit less powerful than 'the mountain range offended me.'
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    To be honest by the time you are a mythic tier eight/nine the only things that could possibility challenge you are effective apocalypses so reshaping mountains sounds like a fair power.
     
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