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- France
In hindsight, this post by DP is quite funny. "What a dragon claims she keeps" lasted until she met Daenerys
It's still a very cool post though. Great wording and all that!
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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It's still a very cool post though. Great wording and all that!
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- United States
If they leave our general vicinity, the Ancient Wight Lord can easily one-shot them with Polar Ray.
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- United States
[X] Goldfish
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- United States
Seeing as battle is a democracy and the enemy gets a vote, what do we think the Wight Lord will do? DP rarely fails to live up to the hype of such enemies, this joker'll have something up his sleeve.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
His only real hope is to immediately use his Dimension Door SLA.
All of his damaging SLAs are Cold-based, which we are blocking with Anticold Sphere. It can't even close to melee range because of the sphere unless it's Spell Resistance beats Viserys in a caster level check.
It could kill the children just to be an asshole, too.
Of course, DP could have modified the Winter Wight, but I think that would be uncalled for. The thing is CR 17 and massively dangerous to us if we weren't properly warded. And its melee ability is pure murder. Look at the effects of its second supernatural ability.
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- United States
The children are definitely not a priority in the face of True Death. None of us are voting for risking ourselves to try to save them.
- Location
- Brazil
Quicken SLA on that Greater Dispel and closing in could work.
To be fair, assuming the trap is for us (which it ought be because who else is going to merit a CR 17 monster, the Thenns are not that tough) it might take our usual protections into account.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
It's not a trap for us. We've been Mind Blank'd continuously for months and Divination revealed that no attack was expected. Rather, the Nightrunners have been using the resting place/prison of a Winter Wight to infiltrate the valley.
Even the Winter Wight thinks we're just some nameless pawn of Bloodraven.
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- United States
I don't think the CR 17 monster was specifically there for us. It seems more likely that we just stumbled across a relic of the Long Night, and that the Others are just this powerful that they leave CR 17 monsters entombed at the edge of their power.
I also think that the voice that was talking to us wasn't the Winter Wight. We were probably being spoken to by the Others' equivalent of Bloodraven. Maybe it was the Night King?
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- Reno Nv
[X] Goldfish
Well, nothing says F-U and everything around you like a ton of fire to the face.
Well, nothing says F-U and everything around you like a ton of fire to the face.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
I think this guy was intended to be woken by the voice dude, or as part of a mass "right, get to it then" to all assets when winter started, but since some "low leveled pawns of bloodraven" stumbled in, it was woken early. Which is, imo, a rather good thing for us. One less weapon for them later.
Honestly, i'm starting to think we should send some mid tier groups with extra gear and a higher level pc safety net person to clear out some of their forces south of the wall. Sooner is better than later.
Also, with a combination of move earth items, a low level "corpse awareness item" and a few fire breathers or just fiery burst Scholarium mages, with hall of mirrors support, we can, when we get another few hundred mages, maybe start making a dent on the whole "all the dead bodies are going to get up" problem by moving them up, burning the skellingtons to ash and then respefully putting said ash back on the ground.
And they might even drop a few prayers to the appropriate god, if that helps
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- United States
I was kind of hoping we'd be opening up with a SotD. Getting turned into obsidian statues is the safest they could possibly be while not hampering us unacceptably in the face of a CR17 Other. Still, if Goldfish says this is the best way to go about it, I'm not gonna object.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
SotD would be good, if there wasn't so much ice around.
We could end up bringing the mountain down on our heads.
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- United States
If there was a way to save them without risking ourselves to True Death then we'd have taken that, yeah. As it stands, trying to prioritize them would just end up with one of us possibly permakilled.
We should certainly try to save the survivors, though.
ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
That's for later.
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- being near locations is my passion.
Speaking of, I saw mention of Visery's melting the whole place and waterbreathing and swimming out. I think there is a major problem in that the pressure from the explosion will be modelled as bludgeoning damage. If we do make a channel away from the Thens, and blow this place up, I recommend either a greater blink (cast before demolition, and tested before attempting SotD, as powerful places have weird rules, and then used to dodge the explosion and fly out (possibly free action to blink if prepared for?, or use chronomancy to get the action needed), orrrr, a bit of chronomancy and a resilient sphere over Viserys.
Greater blink sounds more efficient in terms of getting out this, if it works. Depending on how deep in we are, we should have 16ish rounds to fly in a straight line when in the astral plane.
And Viserys is quite fast
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- being near locations is my passion.
@Goldfish sorry for double post, but I wanted to bring stuff to your attention; apologies if there are obvious reasons why not to do these, but:
Waymar does the switching thing with vigor on the move action of his dimension door round, so that saves his move action later for a better thing you come up with or just general flexibility.
Dany uses her bead of karma as a standard action on the same round as waymar is casting dimension door and gets the boost to her divine caster level from 14 to 18. So four more of the weights and the big dude, provided they re in range. And better chance to beat the weights cl if that's a factor
Can Dany alter fortune the amber scarocophagus attempt?
Thinking in actions the NPC's could take, only one good spring to mind:
The two NPC's stand there and stay within 10 feet of Visery's!
Tbh, I'm glad that you added in the warning, but this stuff read as though it forced awill save to avoid a morale debuff on Viserys, it was that horrifying, and he's a hardened adventurer who has been seeing what red dragon like to get up to for fun since he was 13.
The two NPC's are gonna teleport in and see the children.
At this point I've talked myself into wanting Varys to share a clear mental impression of the horror and the Command "no matter what you see, what happens, you stay within 10 feet of Viserys"
That thing has at will come of cold, and the buffs one could expect in a place of power, so shit like low level mythic, or quickened SLA or double action in here are not impossiblities.
Like, unlikely to be any of those in particular, but something.
Double cold damage or such.
I don't expect it, but I would not be entirely surprised if it could bypass, partially, our anti-cold shell.
But if it can... It probably is with something that would fuck up the NPCs really bad if we didn't have it.
Edit: Eldrich breach is love
Waymar does the switching thing with vigor on the move action of his dimension door round, so that saves his move action later for a better thing you come up with or just general flexibility.
Dany uses her bead of karma as a standard action on the same round as waymar is casting dimension door and gets the boost to her divine caster level from 14 to 18. So four more of the weights and the big dude, provided they re in range. And better chance to beat the weights cl if that's a factor
Can Dany alter fortune the amber scarocophagus attempt?
Thinking in actions the NPC's could take, only one good spring to mind:
The two NPC's stand there and stay within 10 feet of Visery's!
Tbh, I'm glad that you added in the warning, but this stuff read as though it forced awill save to avoid a morale debuff on Viserys, it was that horrifying, and he's a hardened adventurer who has been seeing what red dragon like to get up to for fun since he was 13.
The two NPC's are gonna teleport in and see the children.
At this point I've talked myself into wanting Varys to share a clear mental impression of the horror and the Command "no matter what you see, what happens, you stay within 10 feet of Viserys"
That thing has at will come of cold, and the buffs one could expect in a place of power, so shit like low level mythic, or quickened SLA or double action in here are not impossiblities.
Like, unlikely to be any of those in particular, but something.
Double cold damage or such.
I don't expect it, but I would not be entirely surprised if it could bypass, partially, our anti-cold shell.
But if it can... It probably is with something that would fuck up the NPCs really bad if we didn't have it.
Edit: Eldrich breach is love
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
If it can get past the Anticold Shell without a dispel check, it's using an Artifact to do it.
In which case, thanks for the meal.
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- being near locations is my passion.
A) yay! Artifacts! That would be cool
B) I was more using it as an example of possible buffs our enemy could get from fighting in its unholy space, that specific one is quite unlikely perhaps, but while I doubt that our approach to this would be altered if we knew what any hypothetical "place of power" buffs might be (it's a damm tight shape of a plan already
, though I wouldn't mind a dispell on its items via oathkeeper if Richard was here ), I think that they might be something to keep in mind if the rolls go against us.Like all spells with saves get that metamagic that means that someone has to save twice for free, or such, which might prompt us to use more wings of cover on the next plan (ourselves + 5 people is our max ATM) and we got four with us.
Also, is it just me, or has waymar been super quiet these last two or three updates?
Edit: five people with us, as varys has left familiar space
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- Location
- Germany
[X] Goldfish