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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
Then I've misread the effect.

Though I managed to fiddle in the Avoid Planar Effects on the armor and brought back some ACP instead, making no net changes to the prices in the process.

As for people having Air Bubble and Avoid Planar Effects on their amulets: pass them on to the next guy who doesn't yet have Power Armor. I really don't get why you want to cut out things I consider vital features so that they must wear a specific amulet in the suit. It's not as if the amulet falls to dust when they get Power Armor.
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I still think the manner you are providing air to them is needlessly expensive and the fluff is too complicated, though mechanically it doesn't really matter. Including Avoid Planar Effects would normally increase the cost by 1200 IM, but removing the Greater Crystal of Adaptation and its multi-effect tax would knock off 450 of that. That only makes the armor over priced by 1,570 IM rather than 2,320 IM.

I would prefer them to have those effects on their amulets simply because the amulet can be worn all the time, while Power Armor cannot, for a variety of reasons. Again, however, it doesn't matter because like you said, they can be handed down to younger Praetorians if needed.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
@DragonParadox - these are a few things I meant to ask during the Varys interrogation.

Was Ser Willam Darry poisoned? The Blackfyres would have a vested interest in creating the 'Beggar King,' after all, and his death was awfully convenient.

Why was Jaime Lannister getting blackout drunk and spilling the reason he killed Aerys to complete strangers?

The amulet was clearly a desperate gamble to save Faegon from Tiamat is a worst-case scenario, but did Varys have a more serious plan for getting him out from her grasp?
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  1. No, he was just sick. Varys even cursed the timing since he lost track of Viserys, then he showed up again and Varys had much bigger questions.
  2. Some kind of falling out with Cersei that eventually got resolved. Varys does not know the details
  3. Bargaining with the Seven . Varys had a line to all the known Chosen and was reasonably certain he could sell them on Aegon
 
DragonParadox said:
  1. No, he was just sick. Varys even cursed the timing since he lost track of Viserys, then he showed up again and Varys had much bigger questions.
  2. Some kind of falling out with Cersei that eventually got resolved. Varys does not know the details
  3. Bargaining with the Seven . Varys had a line to all the known Chosen and was reasonably certain he could sell them on Aegon
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What was his thought process regarding us? When did we go from pawn to existential threat? Did he ever try to stop us before we grew out of control?

Did Varys know it was us behind the Lannisterport bioweapon, the 'divine retribution' on the Alchemist's Guild, and Ser Boros's madness? What was his plan for the wildfire beneath King's Landing before it all 'mysteriously disappeared?'
 
DragonParadox said:
  1. No, he was just sick. Varys even cursed the timing since he lost track of Viserys, then he showed up again and Varys had much bigger questions.
  2. Some kind of falling out with Cersei that eventually got resolved. Varys does not know the details
  3. Bargaining with the Seven . Varys had a line to all the known Chosen and was reasonably certain he could sell them on Aegon
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They'd be sold on an anti-Targ plan if nothing else.
 
mrsean22 said:
.....I'm actually curious about this. How exactly would he do this in detail? Like what exactly does he know of them to convince Aegon is a great choice?
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The alternative is being taken over by us.

F!Aegon is weaker, that's for sure. Getting rid of Viserys is a good outcome for them: it means transitioning from a super!enemy to a weaker one.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
What was his thought process regarding us? When did we go from pawn to existential threat?
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After Mantarys, and more specifically after the Abishai contacted him to explain just what you had done.

LonelyWolf999 said:
Did Varys know it was us behind the Lannisterport bioweapon, the 'divine retribution' on the Alchemist's Guild, and Ser Boros's madness? What was his plan for the wildfire beneath King's Landing before it all 'mysteriously disappeared?'
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Yes to the first, no to the second and he suspected the third.

He had no real plans for the Wildfire, since he was not the sort to blow up the city. Maybe having Aegon clear it up once he became king
 
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Kinda meant more in detail. Like what would the Chosen need to turn against Viserys and what to support Faegon? For example what would Brienne need to fight Viserys and support Faegon? She has talked with Viserys and even was given something I can't remember from him.
 
Duesal said:
Huh. Varys didn't know the Alchemist's Guild was us?
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The idea of a divine messenger with that power would have muddied the trail somewhat.

@DragonParadox You didn't elaborate who Varys might have suspected of being responsible for eliminating the Alchemist Guild.

He knew about the Angels of Mantarys (who FIGHT WITH ALL MIGHT devils), did he think it was them?

It was pointed out there are numerous reasons it probably wasn't the Seven because they did not really try to take credit for it.
 
mrsean22 said:
Kinda meant more in detail. Like what would the Chosen need to turn against Viserys and what to support Faegon? For example what would Brienne need to fight Viserys and support Faegon? She has talked with Viserys and even was given something I can't remember from him.
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I'm guessing he answered vaguely because it was just more "wishful thinking" on Varys' part, which @DragonParadox mentioned is the highlight reel of Varys' madness.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
I've always found it kind of ironic that Viserys seems to regard Jaime somewhat highly, considering how much of an asshole and tool he becomes. Not that Viserys would know that. But I'm wondering if some things might have changed sightly if things like the above have happened.
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What happened is that Cersei became x10 more paranoid and evil than she would have, way, way earlier. Okay, well, she was always evil, but she managed to hide how evil before.

It says a lot when you have had no less than two targeted assassination attempts placed upon you and you have NO IDEA WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE.

Canon Cersei didn't have to deal with that crap, but she was ALREADY nuttier than a feral weasel when it comes to possible treason. She only recognizes two things: Family, which comes as an extension of oneself, and Enemies. If you aren't family, and you aren't an enemy, you temporarily do not exist.

She's just showing that a lot more before she'd even got it into her head to have Robert Baratheon eliminated.

Speaking of which we need to really saturate the Red Keep with our agents if we want to prevent things kicking off before we're ready.
 
Crake said:
What happened is that Cersei became x10 more paranoid and evil than she would have, way, way earlier. Okay, well, she was always evil, but she managed to hide how evil before.

It says a lot when you have had no less than two targeted assassination attempts placed upon you and you have NO IDEA WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE.

Canon Cersei didn't have to deal with that crap, but she was ALREADY nuttier than a feral weasel when it comes to possible treason. She only recognizes two things: Family, which comes as an extension of oneself, and Enemies. If you aren't family, and you aren't an enemy, you temporarily do not exist.

She's just showing that a lot more before she'd even got it into her head to have Robert Baratheon eliminated.

Speaking of which we need to really saturate the Red Keep with our agents if we want to prevent things kicking off before we're ready.
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It took Joffrey dying and Tyrion escaping for her to start really losing it. She must be power-tripping hard here.

Did Varys know what sort of magic Cersei had access to? Is it just magic trinkets or did she really make a deal with something?
 
DragonParadox said:
  1. No, he was just sick. Varys even cursed the timing since he lost track of Viserys, then he showed up again and Varys had much bigger questions.
  2. Some kind of falling out with Cersei that eventually got resolved. Varys does not know the details
  3. Bargaining with the Seven . Varys had a line to all the known Chosen and was reasonably certain he could sell them on Aegon
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Apologies if this has been covered, but when, if there was a point that he made a conscious decision, did Irrilo and Varys decide Viserys was upgraded from pawn to foe (as opposed to from pawn to ally)?

Basically, was it Tiamat getting her hooks in Irrilo over time?

Nbd if it was, the production of "Varys' birds" sealed their fate regardless of how they view us :).

Edit: oh, asked a few minutes ago! Apologies, playing catch-up.
 
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