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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Crake
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A teen and his kid sister terrify high society.
(^ Tried to keep it to nine words or less. It... worked.)
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I keep forgetting that Viserys Targaryen is, by our standards, a child of 16. It really is hard to remember sometimes.
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Seventeen.
Crake
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People grow up faster in ASoIaF.
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Hey man, what can ya do when you get phenomenal cosmic power, a body to make dragons weep in age category and enough knowledge skills to make some Arch Wizards cry?
CONQUER THE WORLD! BWAHAHAHA.
ryuan
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Considering the pseudo period of the time and the area under our direct rule, how big is that population compared with real world references?
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What if we treated them as foreign nations who happen to share a border? We make a basic treaty acknowledging their Sovereignty within Feyspace, but the (Imperially owned sections of the) Material Plane is our domain. We plop down a mutually manned border station and in the treaty it's agreed that if the entrance shifts then so does the border station and none are to cross to the other side before the border station is reestablished.
If someone (a mortal) stumbles into Feyspace before the border crossing is reestablished then they are to be held amd treated as a Guest until we arrive and are able to do a mind scan to prove their intensions. Same applies to Fey who happen to stumble through to our side.
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Preparation for the followup update before we leave:
-[] LOOT AND MAPS
--[] In short, any and all intel of Westeros which we would consider useful should be gathered here
---[] Especially loot, tell us all about the loot we'd want to know about
----[] How many Valyrian Dragon eggs in Westeros is Varys aware of, and where are they?
----[] Does he know where the Royce ancestral Valyrian Steel blade is?
--[] Take your Map of Westeros, as well as the individual maps of each of the Seven Kingdoms (Map of the North, Map of the Vale, Map of the Riverlands, Map of the Stormlands, Map of the Westerlands, Map of the Iron Islands, Map of the Crownlands, Map of the Reach, Map of Dorne), and have Bloodraven scan through Varys' mind, then update the maps to include the locations of supernatural creatures that Varys is aware of, like fey courts, local monstrous humanoids, openings to the Underdark, lairs of Winterborn servants, etc., everything that Varys has heard about and kept track of, along with updating them with whatever intel Bloodraven may be willing to share.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to scan Varys' mind and make you a full Map of the Red Keep, complete with secret tunnels, hidden chambers, etc.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to make a Map of King's Landing using Varys' intelligence.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to update your Large Map of Essos along with every individual map with the relevant intel you've learned from Varys.
---[] If he is worried about the information being divined, these particular maps will always be under our Mind Blank and will be stored in our cloak unless we're personally using them.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to update your Legendary Map of the Far North
--[] Can Bloodraven do us a favor and point us to the adamantine mine wherever it may be near Dyre Den? If we're told where it is we can tell Lord Brune where to start mining and help him diversify his income.
-[] Bring up your encounter with Euron and ask if Bloodraven has heard or seen anything of the man. He seems to have dropped off the face of the earth since you saw him.
EDIT: Tldr those updated maps will be a godsend for our conquest efforts.
-[] LOOT AND MAPS
--[] In short, any and all intel of Westeros which we would consider useful should be gathered here
---[] Especially loot, tell us all about the loot we'd want to know about
----[] How many Valyrian Dragon eggs in Westeros is Varys aware of, and where are they?
--[] Take your Map of Westeros, as well as the individual maps of each of the Seven Kingdoms (Map of the North, Map of the Vale, Map of the Riverlands, Map of the Stormlands, Map of the Westerlands, Map of the Iron Islands, Map of the Crownlands, Map of the Reach, Map of Dorne), and have Bloodraven scan through Varys' mind, then update the maps to include the locations of supernatural creatures that Varys is aware of, like fey courts, local monstrous humanoids, openings to the Underdark, lairs of Winterborn servants, etc., everything that Varys has heard about and kept track of, along with updating them with whatever intel Bloodraven may be willing to share.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to scan Varys' mind and make you a full Map of the Red Keep, complete with secret tunnels, hidden chambers, etc.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to make a Map of King's Landing using Varys' intelligence.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to update your Large Map of Essos along with every individual map with the relevant intel you've learned from Varys.
---[] If he is worried about the information being divined, these particular maps will always be under our Mind Blank and will be stored in our cloak unless we're personally using them.
--[] Ask Bloodraven to update your Legendary Map of the Far North
--[] Can Bloodraven do us a favor and point us to the adamantine mine wherever it may be near Dyre Den? If we're told where it is we can tell Lord Brune where to start mining and help him diversify his income.
-[] Bring up your encounter with Euron and ask if Bloodraven has heard or seen anything of the man. He seems to have dropped off the face of the earth since you saw him.
EDIT: Tldr those updated maps will be a godsend for our conquest efforts.
DarkLight140
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Very roughly comparable to any of the following regions in the early 1300s:
- France
- Spain+Portugal+Italy
- Austria-Hungary+all of the Balkans
- England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany
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I'd rather we be directly involved.
This is dealing with fiends taken from the Larder. I want that supervised.
Crake
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The thing was less about taking Companions or suitably powerful mages out of the equation, and more about ensuring we didn't have to be involved. Right now we need to use wishcraft to brute force it in order to make ingots.
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We could easily make it a rule that a Companion has to be on overwatch for the ritual. The current setup is just time consuming and inefficient - we might be able to get more bang for our buck with a proper ritual.
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Making a Companion watch is fine. I just refuse to have NPCs handle fiends without direct supervision.
What exactly do you want this forge to do? Do you have anything specific in mind that you want to build here?
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We can create large batches of VS at once though.
It's not really time-consuming that way.
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Yeah, this is kind of my complaint.
This seems more than a little pointless, trying to address a problem that doesn't actually exist.
We can trivially make tons of Valyrian Steel in bulk if we have enough sacrifices on hand, and we don't need to be there for reforging.
Crake
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In the update that we got the ritual, Viserys already pretty much said that we can build a specialized forge that can pour large batches of VS in predefined shapes without our direct involvement. I'm not pulling this out of my ass.
Regardless, there have been two instances where we made a batch of VS, and underestimated how much we would need, and made more. Those needs can expand drastically unless you use a hilariously large amount of HD to make tonnes of the stuff. In which case, fair, that takes slightly more planning.
But that says nothing of the fact that we might want to make it ceaselessly while pouring in PoWs from our inevitable warfront with Asshai, Baator, the Abyss and Gehenna one day. The Valyrians built the arsenal to fight that war, and we're actually going to have to fight it since Asmodeus won't have the surety of our inevitable ruin hanging over our head like a Sword of Damocles to guarantee he'll reap the harvest either way.
And finally, because it is cool.
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I really don't see how this is a "fixing a problem that doesn't exist" argument. @Duesal, maybe your intention isn't hostile, but for how little it costs us, and turns it into yet another action we can retroactively delegate away and say "we made X amount in advance, because obviously we didn't need to be there to make sure it happened", I'm kind of getting Azel vibes of suggesting we build something, and the immediate response a hail of "that's fucking stupid".
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I went back and looked and I'm not seeing it, but I'll just take your word for it that it was in the updates at some point.
Eh. Fair.
It's not a bad idea, I am just getting very, very twitchy at the potential security hazard with that many fiends being sacrificed and us not being there. I was asking for your plans for the forge because I wanted to know what security measures you had in mind, not what uses we'd get out of it. The uses are self-evident.
If we make the forge, not only should a Companion be there to supervise the bulk sacrifices, but we need to start using Valyrian Dragon blood rather than Viserys' blood.
So long as it's Goldfish-approved in security my complaints will die off.
Crake
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I would put at least some of the same measures we used for the Snare on it, though it has to at minimum A) Close off an area to people who haven't gathered, been vetted and then allowed into begin work, and B) has some logistical concerns that means it can't just be a fortified bunker on an isolated location. If you want to station some of a garrison around it, that's optional, though not needed long term, since a Companion or equivalent trusted mage has to be present whenever work is being done regardless.
Finally, the greatest risk comes to those who don't dare to take them. Right now we are getting more mages who know the secret to Valyrian Steel, something Viserys doesn't want to keep limited to a tiny miniscule amount of people. Certainly not common knowledge, but a mainstay in the Empire as the forging of other metamaterials is in Extraplanar empires.
If Viserys basically makes it implicit no new steel will be made without his involvement, which will be rare, what incentives do our smiths who can reforge it have to stay around?
These all are arguments that have counters, obviously. Enough patronage, enough government contracts, we can reduce many of these risks, and having a King's direct patronage isn't something many smiths would give up... if they were just smiths like our Qohorik one and Mott.
I get the feeling you will have many interested mages wanting the ability to acquire stocks of it, and willing to pay any price to undercut contracts to get their own forge built elsewhere. Best to just plan ahead.
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I mean... unless the smiths can somehow provide the sacrifices, they really can't forge on their own. Every single forging will be sponsored by the Imperium.
EDIT: But yeah, I don't see how this is meant to be anything other than a strictly government project unless the smiths get their hands on their own supply of doomed fiends.
Well, unless we get our blood factory running and somehow get the fiendish lifeforce requirement taken care of through that.
Sold.Best to plan ahead... because then we can tax it.
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