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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Ngl, I do want for it to be Viserys who casts the Simulacrum spell and tell them to follow Bloodraven's orders (of course we check those orders from time to time)

Because I feel this will go better if handled mostly out of focus by DP.

At least he wont be able to deny us Small Council interludes anymore :V
 
Things we'll need to update Bloodraven on:

1) The details of our pact with the Shaitan and the Djinn, and the ongoing war with the Efreeti
2) How we ruined Mammon's scheme against the Lord of the First
3) We're more than happy to make a copy of the Uniila Book if he's interested, there should be a lot of diabolical lore in there
4) The details of Syrax swearing herself to us, and all the lore of the Fifteen who fought Tiamat and how the Fifteenth is still in Valyria and tied to all things that are conceptually Valyrian and bound to Asmodeus (basically a plea for Bloodraven's help with this one)
5) The fact that the goddamn Bloodstone Emperor is still around and reigns over the Rakshasa in Asshai
 
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DragonParadox said:
"What do you need... your grace?" The words might have been thought mocking, perhaps even uncaring, but instead you hear a judgement still withheld. A king, Bloodraven names you freely, but he seems still uncertain as to what manner of king that be. Tis an uncertainty you share for all your words of fame and fury.
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DragonParadox said:
Bloodraven is silent a long moment, perhaps distracted by something far away, perhaps merely lost in thoughts and memories. "Given how much you have revealed to me and how close the hour of the conquest hangs, it is only fair and fitting that I show my own hand besides the Spider's thoughts, thus you might see the board in full and move the pieces as they must be."

The weight of the offer leaves you momentarily speechless. For one who lives so comfortably ensconced in shadows to shine a light upon his plans for you is a gift beyond price. "Thank you, my lord," you bow deeply, not as king to honored counselor, but as one equal to another—sorcerers, spies, and plotters.

OOC: I know it must seem crazy from an OOC position to have Bloodraven offer yet more exposition, but this is what makes sense for the character right now. Viserys has lived up to his (admittedly very high) standards and you earned his trust.
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How far we've come. :D
 
All it took was climbing seventeen PC levels with tooth and claw within the same line of work and expertise as Bloodraven... :V
 
Duesal said:
Things we'll need to update Bloodraven on:

1) The details of our pact with the Shaitan and the Djinn, and the ongoing war with the Efreeti
2) How we ruined Mammon's scheme against the Lord of the First
3) We're more than happy to make a copy of the Uniila Book if he's interested, there should be a lot of diabolical lore in there
4) The details of Syrax swearing herself to us, and all the lore of the Fifteen who fought Tiamat and how the Fifteenth is still in Valyria and tied to all things that are conceptually Valyrian and bound to Asmodeus (basically a plea for Bloodraven's help with this one)
5) The fact that the goddamn Bloodstone Emperor is still around and reigns over the Rakshasa in Asshai
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We don't know if the 15 is still conceptually tied to all things Valyrian.
 
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Duesal said:
I'm sure he knows, but no reason not to get his thoughts anyway.

It's a rather solid guess given what we know.

It's the reason we're holding back on bringing back the Fourteen. So long as the Fifteenth lingers then Hell has a claim to things conceptually Valyrian.
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That claim also extends to us, if it exists. Anyway, Syrax thought or at least hoped that the Doom of Valyria would break the connection To all things Valyria. There is a reason the 14 didn't survive the doom. So it can go either way.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Syrax honestly does not know. She hopes not for she would rather be alive than dead. Though in the same vein she would point out that Viserys should make it impossible to kill the Fallen God under the terms of its binding, so would all sorcerers, dragons and dragon riders.
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So, if the binding exists. We might have to kill so many things including ourself in order to make The Fallen vulnerable. :lol

That's why I am hoping the Doom of Valyria was enough to break the connection as Syrax thought. It's Something we absolutely need to research. I think it can go either way. Hopefully, Bloodraven can help us in figuring that out.
 
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The Fifteen mess around with binding and concepts they don't understand and it's fine but I try to do it and suddenly I am a "hazard to society" and "an evil without equal"
 
Duesal said:
She hoped it would... except that it didn't quite finish the job. So long as the Fifteenth lingers in Valyria we're still at risk.
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My guess? We'd have to essentially destroy the shadow/imprint of the 15th, as his "real/main/true" self was destroyed by the Doom. Essentially, his curse is running on a tiny bit of leftover inertia, if it's running at all.

But even the severed head of the Mantis God had some awareness, so it's shown how hard it is to truly finish off a proper deity.

Dead gods are strange, powerful things.

I'm leery about reviving Syrax-chan before we finally finish him off, too. But the Doom seems to have worked alright.
 
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In this we have the advantage of Syrax having all the reason in the world to help us make an end of the Fifteenth permanently, or at least all hint and tale of his curse which would be the doom of all things even a little Valyrian.

They would be just as much effected it by it as us, who hopes to plumb the depths of Valyria's ruin and take all the shinies, and probably copy and use a bunch of stuff from it.

Also, if we ever are forced to wage a war against armies of fiends, having a military stockpile big enough to at least gain a reputation of being able to "fight a war in Baator itself", despite that probably being a gross exaggeration, it is probably full enough of materials, superweapons and knowledge enough to hold off multiple fiendish hosts going full swing on Prime Material, if it were ever to get to that point. And considering the scaling costs fiends have for operating on the Material in the first place, that's basically the same as being able to say you can slap around a few Arch-Dukes like red-headed step children and send the bill for the damages straight to Asmodeus with a sticky-note of Dickbutt attached to it.
 
Duesal said:
We already forced her to promise to wait until after we kill the Fifteenth. We even forced her to promise to help us kill the other Fourteen and her if that's what's necessary to kill the Fifteenth.
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She is still died. The only one of the 14 that still lives is Meraxes.

Anyway, what we made her promise is that, She will be willing to die a second time should it be necessary to kill The Fallen. I don't remember anything about a promise of only resurrecting her after killing the 15, Though, I am mostly nitpicking at this point, I have little doubt Grandma Syrax considers it preferable to just wait for us to kill The Fallen before getting resurrected. Nobody wants to die twice.
 
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DkArthas said:
She is still died. The only one of the 14 that still lives is Meraxes.

Anyway, what we made her promise is that, She will be willing to die a second time should it be necessary to kill The Fallen. I am mostly nitpicking at this point, I have little doubt Grandma Syrax considers it preferable to just wait for us to kill The Fallen before getting resurrected. Nobody wants to die twice.
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Though I'm a little bitter to this basically amounting to her using us as her Chekhov's Gunman.
 
I still think we're dealing with a "no man can kill her" situation.

Methodology wise at least.

They built their everything on the backs of enslaved evil.

Let's... Not. Do that.
 
Azel said:
Hey, @Goldfish? What is the most powerful and viscous we can make a Darkenbeast?

Because sending Vee with a retinue of her greatest work sounds like a great way to deal with this.
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Gigantean Plant-Imbued Darkenbeast would be scary AF, there's a reason I was pushing for at least a dozen last order.
And wanted Darkenbeasts to be plant-imbued by default :'(
 
Deliste said:
Gigantean Plant-Imbued Darkenbeast would be scary AF, there's a reason I was pushing for at least a dozen last order.
And wanted Darkenbeasts to be plant-imbued by default :'(
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Well, DP allowed us to slam a Mythical Animal template on them by separate ritual. So I want to make one as Vees personal mount.
 
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