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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
  1. He had some skill and stat boosters but I will need to think of precisely what the values were.
  2. It's charges are restored though either the sacrifice of a mage (all three charges) or the use of mage's power for a month (1 charge).
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That's a neat amulet. Anything that lets you act as a Free Action is nice. Being able to do it with something so powerful as Spell Turning, that's amazing.

I want Viserys to have it, ya'll.
 
[X] Duesal

Knowing Bloodraven's plan we should encourage the Faith in our own territory to reform in their own way as well.
 
Goldfish said:
That's a neat amulet. Anything that lets you act as a Free Action is nice. Being able to do it with something so powerful as Spell Turning, that's amazing.

I want Viserys to have it, ya'll.
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The price of either sacrificing a mage or making a mage give up their power for an entire month makes it less appealing in the long term, but I guess we can just pay a Scholarum mage to get fat and happy off of giving up his magic power for a month every time we need to recharge it?

I was gonna complain about losing whatever amulet we've already got, but I'm a bit baffled to find that Viserys isn't actually wearing an amulet. I could have sworn... :wtf:

Overall, yeah. Viserys should have it.

I'm more interested in figuring out how to make it. Getting a version of this that charges itself without the need for sacrifice would be great.
 
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[X] Duesal
This new format of your plan really helps with reading through it and keeping track. Thanks.
 
Duesal said:
The price of either sacrificing a mage or making a mage give up their power for an entire month makes it less appealing in the long term, but I guess we can just pay a Scholarum mage to get fat and happy off of giving up his magic power for a month every time we need to recharge it?

I was gonna complain about losing whatever amulet we've already got, but I'm a bit baffled to find that Viserys isn't actually wearing an amulet. I could have sworn... :wtf:

Overall, yeah. Viserys should have it.

I'm more interested in figuring out how to make it. Getting a version of this that charges itself without the need for sacrifice would be great.
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He is wearing an amulet (it also has the PfE effect added on);
Lesser Star of Wisdom
  1. +2 Insight bonus to AC
  2. May add one level 1 spell to spells known from any spell list if the bearer is a spontaneous caster or three level 1 spells to one's spell list if the bearer is a prepared caster (Current Spell: Amplify)
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I don't want to try to circumvent the charging requirement for the Well of Souls. That is a seriously freaking powerful item. Using a 7th level spell as a Free Action is amazing. If we need to sacrifice enemy mages to power it, then so be it. Or like you said, pay a Scholarium mage an exorbitant sum to take a month long vacation to restore a charge to it.

BTW, Varys was pretty well equipped. Here's everything we know of so far:
Rings:
Mind Blank
Swift Invisibility (3/day)

Amulet: Well of Souls (Spell Turning 1/turn free action: 2/3 Charges)

Bracers: +3 Saves

Headband: +4 Intelligence

Cloak: +4 Charisma

Boots: +3 DEX

Wand Bracer (Swift action to draw):

1. Resilient Sphere (41 Charges)
2. Reach Shivering Touch (32 Charges) x2
3. Dimension Door (47 Charges)
4. True Casting (43 Charges)

Scrolls:
Heart of Water (3)
Heart of Air (3)
Heart of Fire (3)
Heart of Earth (3)
Divine Insight (4)
Air of Nobility (2)
Greater Mage Armor (3)
Passwall (5)
Teleport (2)
Greater Spell Immunity [CL 16] (1)
Conviction (3)
Superior Resistance (3)
Disjunction (1)
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I'm still curious what delusions were motivating Varys. Was it really all "for the good of the common man"? That doesn't make sense to me. Varys has a solid information network, so he must have known what conditions the people under Viserys' rule are in.

Was he just convinced that eventually Viserys would go crazy like Aerys?
 
Scribbler said:
I'm still curious what delusions were motivating Varys. Was it really all "for the good of the common man"? That doesn't make sense to me. Varys has a solid information network, so he must have known what conditions the people under Viserys' rule are in.

Was he just convinced that eventually Viserys would go crazy like Aerys?
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He's probably been working toward a Blackfire Return for so long that he's blinded himself to any other option.
 
Duesal said:
Damn. Can we enchant Varys' amulet to make it a Star of Wisdom? I don't want to lose the insight bonus to AC, or access to Amplify.
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We haven't had any luck getting DP to give us enchanting guidelines for the Stars of Wisdom. I can figure up a rough approximation, but the ability to grant access to spells from opposing school in a PoSK-like format is weird.
 
Goldfish said:
We haven't had any luck getting DP to give us enchanting guidelines for the Stars of Wisdom. I can figure up a rough approximation, but the ability to grant access to spells from opposing school in a PoSK-like format is weird.
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I think it's less that DP doesn't want to give it to us and more that we either ask when he doesn't see it or he forgets to tell us. We might have better luck over PM.
 
DragonParadox said:
  1. It's charges are restored though either the sacrifice of a mage (all three charges) or the use of mage's power for a month (1 charge).
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And to the old gods with you! Lol.

Have you decided on the CL? Does it get a bonus for having a magic/mage theme to go with the OG domain. And/or protection?

*Looks at thread.* Huh, didn't consider paying someone in the Scholarium. We could offer first payment in the form of a ring of predigisdination. :D (I hate that word). They could still study and stuff, and we can honestly say we apricate their (temporary) scarafice :D.

A less costly method of paying for it, and how to make new ones might be nice someday

Something like leaving it to soak up magic from a pot of magic reagents (i.e. gold cost) in a fungus forge (OG assistance, since they are happy they understand fire, and the amulet hits their themes)

@Duesal it would cost the same to add the effect of the star + PfE to the amulet as it would to a ring, primary effect (most expensive) = full price, all other effects are either 1.5 or 2 times the price. Though considering that this item is pretty powerful already, I'd prefer to stick the PfE on a weaker item - incase we do something like headbutting that dude in Yi-Ti again. ;)

We should (thought this almost certainly happens offscreen as procedure) check that this isn't a "demon sword" situation, where while a bit of the scarafice goes to the purpose we expect, a portion goes to fuel some other action.
 
ryuan said:
Can't we get spell turned permanenced instead? Sounds cheaper.
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No. Permanency doesn't work like that, unfortunately. It's also too high a level based on the way DP is letting us render spells Permanent.

We could get Spell Turning in various ways if we want to. Our crown actually has it built in 1/day up to 6th level. All of those methods use actions, though, while Varys' can be used as a Free Action. That's just too good not to use for ourselves.
 
Goldfish said:
No. Permanency doesn't work like that, unfortunately. It's also too high a level based on the way DP is letting us render spells Permanent.

We could get Spell Turning in various ways if we want to. Our crown actually has it built in 1/day up to 6th level. All of those methods use actions, though, while Varys' can be used as a Free Action. That's just too good not to use for ourselves.
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I don't think we can get away with spell turning at free action unless we kill another CR20+ creature and chop it down for parts.
 
ryuan said:
I don't think we can get away with spell turning at free action unless we kill another CR20+ creature and chop it down for parts.
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That's why I want us to use the amulet. Wherever Varys got it, the thing is stupid good. Tomorrow when DP gives us the fluff for it, I'm expecting a pretty significant drawback. It's probably a Relic of Mammon or something similar.
 
Goldfish said:
That's why I want us to use the amulet. Wherever Varys got it, the thing is stupid good. Tomorrow when DP gives us the fluff for it, I'm expecting a pretty significant drawback. It's probably a Relic of Mammon or something similar.
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Wouldn't the drawback be that it requires sacrifice for renewed charges?

If we need additional protection, just pop the cork on one of the bottled sacrifices from the Larder and have Bloodraven enscribe the amulet with Old Gods' runes.
 
Having seen a glimpse of what Bloodraven built even having close to no direct resources, I'm all the more excited to actually get to giving him a Varys-puppet to play around with.

@Goldfish, we'll need a fair bit of equipment for it, though.
Way more than the one we destroyed carried for sure, as both Noodle and Timmie will know he's not their Varys and will try to gun him down out of principle, I think.
:/

Explosive insides are all fine and good (reeeeally good. I like ca-boomies), but losing the puppet will be a loss of time and effort of putting up a facade of Varys anyway.
 
egoo said:
Having seen a glimpse of what Bloodraven built even having close to no direct resources, I'm all the more excited to actually get to giving him a Varys-puppet to play around with.

@Goldfish, we'll need a fair bit of equipment for it, though.
Way more than the one we destroyed carried for sure, as both Noodle and Timmie will know he's not their Varys and will try to gun him down out of principle, I think.
:/

Explosive insides are all fine and good (reeeeally good. I like ca-boomies), but losing the puppet will be a loss of time and effort of putting up a facade of Varys anyway.
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That would actually be suspicious if they suddenly showed up with a bunch of new equipment. The new Varys Simulacrum should get the same gear the old one had, and the same goes for Pycelle's duplicate, if the original had anything of note.

We can slip them PfE items, if necessary, but I don't believe we should try to invest much in the way of equipment in them. And reme!ber, they need to be replaced quickly, as in as soon as we are done speaking with Bloodraven.
 
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