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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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"Those hell birds are too strong! What do we do?"

"Swallows you say?"

The groups turned to the new voice, seeing the extremely under armed man holding a sword in his hands.



"Please, allow me. I HATE swallows."
 
DragonParadox said:
"Well that was odd. Do you think they were ghost-riddled?" the Soul-smith said as she set down
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It struck me for that all their messing about with flesh forges we never heard about the Valrians messing with the nature of the would directly.

Probably not the kind of thing the Gov wanted people doing.

Goldfish said:
@DragonParadox When Lya is along on a journey, "setting camp" means casting Lya's Magnificent Mansion, right?
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Mmmmm, forbiddance as well maybe? 2 whole spells...
 
Vote closed. I'd going to try to get one more update tonight.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 29, 2019 at 3:53 PM, finished with 160 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] After Vee thoroughly questions him about any children operating in the castle who fit the description of the one we previously encountered, who we now know serve as Varys' unwilling agents, place Balerion in a Smoky Confinemen bottle using Blood Wish, then heal the Charisma damage with an Orb of Mental Renewal charge.
    -[X] Locate Varys' 'little birds' then use them to ascertain the man's whereabouts.
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Arimai said:
@Takesis how is that poem a euphemism for Homosexuality? It wasn't written for that at all. If you yourself find that to resonate with homosexuality then that is your interpretation, not the author.
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lockingbane said:
......... Well now I am curious. What's all this about a poem and homosexuality?
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Would you believe that omake started as a summary of the play about Waymar, ala City of Demons?

So, I thought, what if Waymar has fans, and lets make him a Dothraki for reasons.
Then we found this poem with the words Deep, stars, and something changed. So with a little tweak to make it based on my own interpretation:

We have this lone rider, who stares in wonder at the greatest Khalassar he has ever seen (SD in comparison to the night sky), and so he started expressing himself instead of being silent (The silent horses neighing)

It's not about homosexuality, it's Django's euphemism for freedom at expressing himself more (poetry) while still being a Dothraki. Freedom that he didn't find while under Rhango's Khalassar I mean....

Or I just borrowed the first "mongolian," "poem," "horse," and "plains" that l found in google. :V
 
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UmeII said:
I'd assumed he'd taught them some kind of morse code. What's the point of cutting the tongues of your spies off if they can still betray your secrets by writing them down?
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You're forgetting that paper isn't some kind of ubiquitous property in this world, it's also straight up medieval times, and it is usually only reserved for a very small number of uses. Messages direct, painstakingly made books and treatises, and occasionally by what few administrators Westeros actually has (councilors if Lords keep them, experts if they can afford them, and the King might have both). Records aren't as significant here as they might be out East either.

And it is expensive. Viserys doesn't pay his kids in any more than food and water. And probably no more than that these days, seeing as how he has bound them more cleverly to slavery with magic than they ever were with the implicit threat that if they ever betrayed him in some manner, he would make sure they died.

And these kids ordinarily aren't kept around until they can find their courage in canon anyway, he replaces them regularly. The reason that he has Illyrio bring more in periodically isn't because they keep getting killed by getting stuck in tunnels, caught and killed, or running away (where would they go? They can't speak, and most people they could ask for help can't read).

He kills them. He kills them once they learn too much for it to be worth keeping around. He had a constant supply of pliable, scared kids who think he's basically the closest thing to god, with their life in his hands. And we're the ones that ended that operation, we're the reason why he binds them with sorcery. He can't replace them anymore.
 
Crake said:
You're forgetting that paper isn't some kind of ubiquitous property in this world, it's also straight up medieval times, and it is usually only reserved for a very small number of uses. Messages direct, painstakingly made books and treatises, and occasionally by what few administrators Westeros actually has (councilors if Lords keep them, experts if they can afford them, and the King might have both). Records aren't as significant here as they might be out East either.

And it is expensive. Viserys doesn't pay his kids in any more than food and water. And probably no more than that these days, seeing as how he has bound them more cleverly to slavery with magic than they ever were with the implicit threat that if they ever betrayed him in some manner, he would make sure they died.

And these kids ordinarily aren't kept around until they can find their courage in canon anyway, he replaces them regularly. The reason that he has Illyrio bring more in periodically isn't because they keep getting killed by getting stuck in tunnels, caught and killed, or running away (where would they go? They can't speak, and most people they could ask for help can't read).

He kills them. He kills them once they learn too much for it to be worth keeping around. He had a constant supply of pliable, scared kids who think he's basically the closest thing to god, with their life in his hands. And we're the ones that ended that operation, we're the reason why he binds them with sorcery. He can't replace them anymore.
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Is there a way we can publicize this?

It would probably flip a good number of Lord's to our side. Possibly even more than the devil worship.

...we can make him confess to all of this right?

Just like, walk up to someone who isn't completely morally bankrupt in public and confess to all this?
 
zxzx24 said:
Is there a way we can publicize this?

It would probably flip a good number of Lord's to our side. Possibly even more than the devil worship.

...we can make him confess to all of this right?

Just like, walk up to someone who isn't completely morally bankrupt in public and confess to all this?
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I imagine most wouldn't care. Problem is finding people who actually care about peasant lives and a high enough level in the hierarchy of nobles.. Ned would probably be extremely angry, Stannis would be furious I imagine, but the Lannnisters wouldn't care, and I'm not sure how Robert would feel.

@LonelyWolf999 or @Crake would also know much more than I do on the individual reactions of Lords and Nobles to this sort abuse.
 
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Crake said:
You're forgetting that paper isn't some kind of ubiquitous property in this world, it's also straight up medieval times, and it is usually only reserved for a very small number of uses. Messages direct, painstakingly made books and treatises, and occasionally by what few administrators Westeros actually has (councilors if Lords keep them, experts if they can afford them, and the King might have both). Records aren't as significant here as they might be out East either.

And it is expensive. Viserys doesn't pay his kids in any more than food and water. And probably no more than that these days, seeing as how he has bound them more cleverly to slavery with magic than they ever were with the implicit threat that if they ever betrayed him in some manner, he would make sure they died.

And these kids ordinarily aren't kept around until they can find their courage in canon anyway, he replaces them regularly. The reason that he has Illyrio bring more in periodically isn't because they keep getting killed by getting stuck in tunnels, caught and killed, or running away (where would they go? They can't speak, and most people they could ask for help can't read).

He kills them. He kills them once they learn too much for it to be worth keeping around. He had a constant supply of pliable, scared kids who think he's basically the closest thing to god, with their life in his hands. And we're the ones that ended that operation, we're the reason why he binds them with sorcery. He can't replace them anymore.
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Also how does Varys communicate with his birds? Is it through paper notes, cause if so that means every one of his birds knows how to read and write which is kinda insane for this time period. I can't imagine Varys actually taking the time to teach them.
 
Dracikral said:
Also how does Varys communicate with his birds? Is it through paper notes, cause if so that means every one of his birds knows how to read and write which is kinda insane for this time period. I can't imagine Varys actually taking the time to teach them.
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That's Illyrio's job. It's why in Canon he's complaining to Varys about how difficult it is to replace Varys' birds in that conversation Arya overhears.
 
firefrog600 said:
Dan Easter is thinks viscerys is a slaver. What kind of pr campaign are we going to need to become king of westeros.
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...... How? Just..... How? We have ENDED slavery in every city we conquer. Our ships raided slave ships for a stupidly long time. The cities who depended on slavery were very vocal about our actions.

So how the heck did he come to THAT conclusion?
 
Dracikral said:
I imagine most wouldn't care. Problem is finding people who actually care about peasant lives and a high enough level in the hierarchy of nobles.. Ned would probably be extremely angry, Stannis would be furious I imagine, but the Lannnisters wouldn't care, and I'm not sure how Robert would feel.

@LonelyWolf999 or @Crake would also know much more than I do on the individual reactions of Lords and Nobles to this sort abuse.
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Some of the nicer martells might care.
 
lockingbane said:
...... How? Just..... How? We have ENDED slavery in every city we conquer. Our ships raided slave ships for a stupidly long time. The cities who depended on slavery were very vocal about our actions.

So how the heck did he come to THAT conclusion?
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Wait who the heck is Dan Easter? And what kinda of idiot is he to think that Viserys is in support of the slave trade?
 
lockingbane said:
...... How? Just..... How? We have ENDED slavery in every city we conquer. Our ships raided slave ships for a stupidly long time. The cities who depended on slavery were very vocal about our actions.

So how the heck did he come to THAT conclusion?
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Eh bad bad pr to them viscerys is basically a dark lord of evil slowly conquering the world. And god am I sorry about that auto correct its really annoying. I'm sure plenty know viscerys does not accommodate slavers but rumors are rumors.
 
firefrog600 said:
Eh bad bad pr to them viscerys is basically a dark lord of evil slowly conquering the world. And god am I sorry about that auto correct its really annoying. I'm sure plenty know viscerys does not accommodate slavers but rumors are rumors.
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And even the tiniest bit of looking into the matter would prove otherwise which makes this all the stranger
 
Dracikral said:
Wait who the heck is Dan Easter? And what kinda of idiot is he to think that Viserys is in support of the slave trade?
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There is no Dan Easter that was just a case of very bad autocorrect.

lockingbane said:
And even the tiniest bit of looking into the matter would prove otherwise which makes this all the stranger
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I know that's what's fucking annoying about rumors. I'm sure the lannister pay people to spread word of our evil deeds.
 
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