"I could help in sorting truth from tall tale if you wish it," the masked man offers. "Consider it a small favor to help wash away the bitter taste of my lamentable countryman's behavior."

Such an odd choice of words... Not fellow Lyseni but countryman, an old word that hearkens back to the days of the Freehold when there was need for a manner to denote allegiance beyond that of city or house. One might find such a usage in the mouth of a Volantine noble, but not here. Allowing nothing of your thoughts to show on your face you nod amiably, curious to see what sort of slant he would give to the news.
Sounds a lot like a left-over Valyrian, but thankfully not like a Tiamat cultist.
 
Where would this one have come from? Kind of arrogant to assume we got a lead on just about everything Valyria related, but it feels that way sometimes.

Like how every mystery or arcane vaguery/artifact all comes back to Valyria. Valyria this, Valyria that, Freehold this, ancient scion that.

Help a messianic figure of prophecy out, Yango.
 
Sounds a lot like a left-over Valyrian, but thankfully not like a Tiamat cultist.
I'm actually thinking this is genuine. The absolute disgust leveled at the other Lyseni certainly seems to hint at a man who lived in a greater age.

And on top of that, we never did fully explore the Goblin Market.

EDIT: It reminds me a lot of the Wax Golem when we first met.
 
It is weird to imagine some kind of counter-conspiracy we haven't heard about (what with the Blackfyre one taking most of our attention) that Zherys isn't involve with.

Than again, Zherys agreed to give up on that idea and join the Imperium, and I can't tell if that's because he's open to other ideas than just stuff that seems Valyrian or not yet. Maybe when we get him wrapped around our finger more we'll figure out what motivates him outside of historical reenactments.

This guy totally doesn't give me the whole "I am an immortal mage" vibe that Yrten mentioned to us once. He doesn't seem sure enough in his own power, and I don't put anyone non-Mythic as having a chance in hell of having acting skills so good that they would fool Viserys completely.

Granted we had one extended conversation with him, but still, he doesn't read like that to me, more like there's a Lyseni angle to it still, he took up the name "Yango Reft" for a reason.
 
While this is all well and good ..

I believe the vote was...

What do we do with the girl? Help her out to cause chaos? Flip her and get her spying for us? Ignore her and move on with our lives?
 
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I think the girl is either a trap or whoever her handler is keeps her in line with threats. Which would implicate the lovely chap who likes to sends eyeballs as a gift.

Definitely worth checking out one way or another.

@DragonParadox, can you give us more background on the Yango Reft from the plays? It would help tremendously to understand the character the name was picked from.
 
We should help the distraught damsel. I'm not in position to write up a plan at the moment, though.
 
The man raises a good point, when's the last time we did anything involving Tyrosh? Besides letting the mage start a scholarium branch, I mean. It'd be nice to see how the city's changed since we conquered it.

I agree. We delegated hard in Tyrosh. I don't think Viserys was there at all except for the few days after were he hanged the people even Tyrosh considered awful. I'm surprised there isn't more of an issue, but I guess taking over a city in a night and seeing horrific daemons from your worst nightmares can temper even the worst misbehavior. And then Garin and Malarys took care of the hinterlands.
 
I think the girl is either a trap or whoever her handler is keeps her in line with threats. Which would implicate the lovely chap who likes to sends eyeballs as a gift.

Definitely worth checking out one way or another.

@DragonParadox, can you give us more background on the Yango Reft from the plays? It would help tremendously to understand the character the name was picked from.

He is basically the villain in the Lysene version of Othelo with a couple key differences:
  1. He is the hero's half brother and bastard freedman
  2. Rather than remaining defiant when confronted with his deeds he has this big 'do we not bleed?' monologue like Shylock in the Merchant of Venice (And just like Shylock he is presented as fundamentally unsympathetic in the end because the play was written for a bigoted audience)
 
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I think the girl is either a trap or whoever her handler is keeps her in line with threats. Which would implicate the lovely chap who likes to sends hi s eyeballs as a gift.

Definitely worth checking out one way or another.

@DragonParadox, can you give us more background on the Yango Reft from the plays? It would help tremendously to understand the character the name was picked from.
How's the Erinyes diplomacy? She's well. A woman. Can't imagine she would be pleased to see any man at the moment.

Not to mention, who better to fan the flames of treacherous vengeance than a Devil?

I mean not right now of course. Right now she should just be nice-osh, and plant the seed of the idea of vengeance.

We can water that seed in the dream realm after the party.

Edit: also it would make sense for mereths persona given her actions so far.

As well as giving us deniability and avoiding the trap ourselves.
 
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I agree. We delegated hard in Tyrosh. I don't think Viserys was there at all except for the few days after were he hanged the people even Tyrosh considered awful. I'm surprised there isn't more of an issue, but I guess taking over a city in a night and seeing horrific daemons from your worst nightmares can temper even the worst misbehavior. And then Garin and Malarys took care of the hinterlands.
There are multiple reasons why it went smoothly:
- we didn't loot the city, preventing widespread chaos and panic
- the Legion stayed present in force and jackbooted goons patrolling the streets in large numbers are quite good at quelling unrest
- we had everything set up to supply the city with food from our own pocket, thus keeping away the worst effects of economic instability
- we immediately poured a lot of money into reconstruction, incidentally completely renovating the slums
- we had proper plans to organize both the freed slaves and the unemployed to keep economic activity going without major disruptions
- both major faiths of the city were on our side from day 1
- we didn't do the usual Planetosi take-over, where most of the nobility is kept around, but instead rounded up the worst troublemakers within the first week, hanged a bunch and shattered their houses
- we focused a lot of party-time on cleaning up after the invasion
- the Inquisition went online shortly after the conquest and started looking for dissenters to deal with

All in all, we prevented the usual troubles of being conquered, greatly improved the life of 99% of the population and terrified the nobles into compliance by showing them just how little their titles mean if they cross us.

The main question is, who in Tyrosh would want to rebel against us?
 
@DragonParadox I imagine that, like some interpretations of Shylock's character, a long time from now as this play is reproduced and with slavery outlawed and having been punished severely, Yango Reft will, like Shylock, be given a more sympathetic cast to his actions, even though ultimately as in the original play the speech is actually justifying revenge and "eye for an eye" in a Christian manner while suffering persecution as a Jew, so would that speech be made to say "you revenge upon your foes and those who have wronged you, so why should those born a slave do otherwise?"

Though without any of the self awareness that there is little and less "virtuous" about the Lyseni ideal.
 
The main question is, who in Tyrosh would want to rebel against us?
Never underestimate the stupidity of an idiot who feels like he was wronged in some way.

I mean don't get me wrong, anyone who tries will probably get found out, soundly beaten, locked in a cell, and then trotted up to the local authorities to be hanged for treason, but they'll still try.
 
There are multiple reasons why it went smoothly:
- we didn't loot the city, preventing widespread chaos and panic
- the Legion stayed present in force and jackbooted goons patrolling the streets in large numbers are quite good at quelling unrest
- we had everything set up to supply the city with food from our own pocket, thus keeping away the worst effects of economic instability
- we immediately poured a lot of money into reconstruction, incidentally completely renovating the slums
- we had proper plans to organize both the freed slaves and the unemployed to keep economic activity going without major disruptions
- both major faiths of the city were on our side from day 1
- we didn't do the usual Planetosi take-over, where most of the nobility is kept around, but instead rounded up the worst troublemakers within the first week, hanged a bunch and shattered their houses
- we focused a lot of party-time on cleaning up after the invasion
- the Inquisition went online shortly after the conquest and started looking for dissenters to deal with

All in all, we prevented the usual troubles of being conquered, greatly improved the life of 99% of the population and terrified the nobles into compliance by showing them just how little their titles mean if they cross us.

The main question is, who in Tyrosh would want to rebel against us?

Huh I don't remember the bolded happening. I thought we mostly hanged those who couldn't even follow Tyrosh's very lax laws and standards on slave treatment? I guess those people who immedietly started plotting with the Archon counted?

Also funnily enough I definitely do remember those preparations. Even more than the actual assault and aftermath itself.

I think the "give people something to do with their time," thing started waaayyy back when Varys, Jon Arryn and Tywin Lannister was sending SD ships full of the plagued, beggars and others considered useless/a drain?

Man I'm now thinking of that one story how in Japan they managed to convert an above ground train station to a subway in under 4 hours. The planning for it took 5-10 years.
 
There are multiple reasons why it went smoothly:
- we didn't loot the city, preventing widespread chaos and panic
- the Legion stayed present in force and jackbooted goons patrolling the streets in large numbers are quite good at quelling unrest
- we had everything set up to supply the city with food from our own pocket, thus keeping away the worst effects of economic instability
- we immediately poured a lot of money into reconstruction, incidentally completely renovating the slums
- we had proper plans to organize both the freed slaves and the unemployed to keep economic activity going without major disruptions
- both major faiths of the city were on our side from day 1
- we didn't do the usual Planetosi take-over, where most of the nobility is kept around, but instead rounded up the worst troublemakers within the first week, hanged a bunch and shattered their houses
- we focused a lot of party-time on cleaning up after the invasion
- the Inquisition went online shortly after the conquest and started looking for dissenters to deal with

All in all, we prevented the usual troubles of being conquered, greatly improved the life of 99% of the population and terrified the nobles into compliance by showing them just how little their titles mean if they cross us.

The main question is, who in Tyrosh would want to rebel against us?

It's not a really good main question if the answer is obvious, those disenfranchised. The real question, who among the nobility, who have had their power and rights curbed, would even try?
 
@DragonParadox I imagine that, like some interpretations of Shylock's character, a long time from now as this play is reproduced and with slavery outlawed and having been punished severely, Yango Reft will, like Shylock, be given a more sympathetic cast to his actions, even though ultimately as in the original play the speech is actually justifying revenge and "eye for an eye" in a Christian manner while suffering persecution as a Jew, so would that speech be made to say "you revenge upon your foes and those who have wronged you, so why should those born a slave do otherwise?"

Though without any of the self awareness that there is little and less "virtuous" about the Lyseni ideal.

That is certainly posibile in the future yes however no troupe in Tyrosh has attempted to put on a performance of this sort yet.
 
Never underestimate the stupidity of an idiot who feels like he was wronged in some way.

I mean don't get me wrong, anyone who tries will probably get found out, soundly beaten, locked in a cell, and then trotted up to the local authorities to be hanged for treason, but they'll still try.
And there is one argument against that: The former Archons daughter. Who got a rather cozy spot in the New World Order by the simple act of ratting out her father who was plotting against Viserys.

What are the chances for you to find enough support for a coup when joining your cause means risking everything, but tattling on you means getting some decent favors by the guy in charge?
Huh I don't remember the bolded happening. I thought we mostly hanged those who couldn't even follow Tyrosh's very lax laws and standards on slave treatment? I guess those people who immedietly started plotting with the Archon counted?

Also funnily enough I definitely do remember those preparations. Even more than the actual assault and aftermath itself.

I think the "give people something to do with their time," thing started waaayyy back when Varys, Jon Arryn and Tywin Lannister was sending SD ships full of the plagued, beggars and others considered useless/a drain?

Man I'm now thinking of that one story how in Japan they managed to convert an above ground train station to a subway in under 4 hours. The planning for it took 5-10 years.
We gave Malarys and Garin explicit orders to make sure to find some dirt on those who would be troublesome to leave alive. It was all lawful executions, but let's just say we paid a tad more attention to some people.
 
I don't really care one way or another. I've just been presenting alternatives.

I've got 40 AA boxes in the crafting schedule for this turn, but to do it I had to remove 207 Lesser False Ravens, 20 Greater False Ravens, 8 Elemental Wyrmlings, and 5 Umbral Spies.

Can you at least put the Umbral Spies back in, we lack intrigue options. I think we could get rid of more Ravens instead.
 
OOC: For anyone wondering the trees used here are a real subtropical species. Granted they are from the Americas and not the Old World, but they felt very fitting for a show of prestige in Lys so I fudged that as I did with chocolate.

Jacarandas are quite striking when grown in groups, I grew up through my teens in a town that had quite a few and is known for it's Jacaranda Festival.
Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Dec 12, 2018 at 4:39 PM, finished with 253910 posts and 1 votes.

  • [X] Have mereth approach her under a sympathetic guise and use her charm person SLA to begin planting the seeds of revenge in her mind.
    -[X] later tonight journey into her dreams in an overtly magical disguise to discuss how she might get said revenge.
    -[X] Go speak to someone else
 
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