Looks like he is acting like a bloody tourist.

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Even political scandals are somehow nicer and more mellow in Canada...
There was one where we tried to find corruption in the government by doing a 23 million audit... to find less than 1 million of questionable spending. :???:
The Senate Scandal Was Not Worth a $23 Million Audit

And the one where our PM accidentally elbowed someone in the tits and spent the next week apologizing. #elbowgate
 
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Screw it. I'm going to Canada when I can. That country couldn't be more amazing even if it tried.

The elbowgate thing was priceless.
 
To be truthful, since the return of his other dear... friend, for all that he could not name her in the light of day as he might in private, lest the game be given away and he put even greater scrutiny upon her comings and goings, and not all from kindly quarters, a fire had been lit underneath him, to prove worthy of both the position he had stepped into, and soon the one he would next take up.
"A toast! This one to my good friend, Beren Dynymion!" The man in question raised his own cup, a rakish grin for the ladies invited at his own behest, and Uthero couldn't even regret they'd shied away from his own attentions in the last year or so... not that he'd spent much of his time on women, during those hectic few months after Aly had come back from the grave. He'd never spent so much time fretting over a woman he wasn't even sleeping with... what horrors is she hunting down now, Uthero wondered, tax evasion from fey enchanters or smugglers dealing in hand-biting baubles?
Bit of a side note, but I'm actually super frustrated that Uthero isn't just courting Alysande already. They're an excellent match. They've been close friends since childhood, and they're both old Braavosi nobility so there wouldn't even begin to be a question of them marrying below their station or anything, Uthero moved mountains to bring her back to life (pretty much begged us on his knees to do it) and I'm damn sure that Alysande would do the same for Uthero.

I've been waiting impatiently for the day they both realize that the other person isn't just a close friend.
 
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Bit of a side note, but I'm actually super frustrated that Uthero isn't just courting Alysande already. They're an excellent match. They've been close friends since childhood, and they're both old Braavosi nobility so there wouldn't even begin to be a question of them marrying below their station or anything, Uthero moved mountains to bring her back to life (pretty much begged us on his knees to do it) and I'm damn sure that Alysande would do the same for Uthero.

I've been waiting impatiently for the day they both realize that the other person isn't just a close friend.

Uthero I feel probably feels a little weird about it. Not in a bad way, more like, "I never paid that much attention to you like that before," and might feel like it would just get in the way of all the real, important stuff she's got on her plate. And, that aside, he took Viserys' warning about Aly keeping her Re-Life'd status on the downlow very seriously, so courting her (insofar as he's even considered it in the abstract) would put an even greater spotlight on her than she already has, and instead of merely having to worry about the enemies of the Silver Eye, or to a lesser extent the enemies of the Sealord (for all that I think Ferrego keeps the Silver Eye at a good enough distance from his own affairs so as not to interfere with their day-to-day operations), but his own. Which he has gained a considerable number of in the faction of Braavosi holdouts against Targaryen supporters.

Tl;Dr: Politics. He is very much absorbed in repaying a debt that can't really be paid by actually proving worthy of his position and possible lordship. Before, he really did just want a castle because he thought it would be quirky and fun and it would make life exciting. Things changed.

Not to say I'm not a fan of the ship, myself, but I think it should settle organically and in proper D&D fashion, with some fire and explosions thrown into the mix.

(It was hard to reconcile leisure suit Uthero seriously making a suit for Alysande, and Lord Agrelys doing the same, because, in my imagining of things, Uthero had explicitly not taken politics or trade or much of anything too seriously, as in, above a hobbyist interest in things like ship building, to swaying men and women in high circles and holding parties where he ends the night dead sober more often than not and in the company of bodyguards, clerks and spies, not women.

It's hard to shoehorn in a romance in between all that is going on.)
 
Uthero I feel probably feels a little weird about it. Not in a bad way, more like, "I never paid that much attention to you like that before," and might feel like it would just get in the way of all the real, important stuff she's got on her plate. And, that aside, he took Viserys' warning about Aly keeping her Re-Life'd status on the downlow very seriously, so courting her (insofar as he's even considered it in the abstract) would put an even greater spotlight on her than she already has, and instead of merely having to worry about the enemies of the Silver Eye, or to a lesser extent the enemies of the Sealord (for all that I think Ferrego keeps the Silver Eye at a good enough distance from his own affairs so as not to interfere with their day-to-day operations), but his own. Which he has gained a considerable number of in the faction of Braavosi holdouts against Targaryen supporters.

Tl;Dr: Politics. He is very much absorbed in repaying a debt that can't really be paid by actually proving worthy of his position and possible lordship. Before, he really did just want a castle because he thought it would be quirky and fun and it would make life exciting. Things changed.

Not to say I'm not a fan of the ship, myself, but I think it should settle organically and in proper D&D fashion, with some fire and explosions thrown into the mix.

(It was hard to reconcile leisure suit Uthero seriously making a suit for Alysande, and Lord Agrelys doing the same, because, in my imagining of things, Uthero had explicitly not taken politics or trade or much of anything too seriously, as in, above a hobbyist interest in things like ship building, to swaying men and women in high circles and holding parties where he ends the night dead sober more often than not and in the company of bodyguards, clerks and spies, not women.

It's hard to shoehorn in a romance in between all that is going on.)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for shoehorning the romance and I'd love for it to grow organically... but I'm still looking at those two very impatiently.

We're going to need to get the Faceless Men's official stance on resurrection soon. Alysande having to hide is getting rather tiresome.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for shoehorning the romance and I'd love for it to grow organically... but I'm still looking at those two very impatiently.

We're going to need to get the Faceless Men's official stance on resurrection soon. Alysande having to hide is getting rather tiresome.
Their stance is directly related to how long we allow them to continue existing. I believe they will make the correct choice.
 
Meanwhile, in the Philippines...

Yes, that guy who claims police gunning down streetkids are killing off drug addicts is now advocating killing of bishops. Of course after being interviewed, he'll say its just a joke.

When he got voted, we expected Asmodeus, or Dis...

Turns out he's Demogorgon.

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Does this mean Trump is Tiamat? :o:o:o
Nah man, Asmodeus is obviously Xi while Dis is more Putin.
 
I would have guessed Mephistopheles. Or honestly maybe Abraxas, the right mix of cunning but has more in line with Putin's "do everything that brings everyone Not Russia further down into the shitter possible, any gambit, any trick, and lie or con". Chaos to grow powerful inside of.
 
. Lya brought her "magic observation diary" as well as her slowly filling spell-book.

@DragonParadox hey, does Lya still have this tucked away somewhere?

The phoenix does something you have never seen him do, sets himself down next to the child in arms reach in fact and stares directly in his eyes. the child cred soundlessly but he did not look away.

Several minutes later Velen shares the tale of the tragedy that took place in this hamlet, as little as the boy, Horen, knows.
You know sometimes I wondered why some of the more outwardly "goody two shoes" outsiders and characters don't question us more.

I read this and remembered that they had to learn just how much bleak horror and awfulness is normal for this world.

I'm very of impressed Velen didn't break down here.

Vee is quite frustrated that she can't speak to the mosquitoes and ask them to bite him harder so she relives her frustration by kicking the prone brigand.

You go Vee!
 
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It's not racism. There are a bunch of pics of him praying to Hindu gods. There's appreciating a culture and there's just being weird about it.

This isn't quite right...

There's an enormous amount of problems that tinges Indian and Canadian relations, most of it from the Indian side. To elaborate: relations have never been great. Relations were good in the 1950s and 1960s, with Canada providing a significant amount of foreign aid and technical support in India's development. That, however, came to an end when India got their hands on nuclear material by stealing from peaceful nuclear reactors provided by Canada in the 1970s. Those nuclear weapons leaked almost immediately afterwards to Pakistan, inflaming the situation. Food aid, loans, technical and nuclear support ended at that point and relations almost immediately froze solid.

Since then, relations have improved, but never been great.

A major flash point has been acceptance of minority groups from India as immigrants into Canada. In the 1970s and 1980s, Canada was a major destination for numerous groups, but, most notably, Sikhs fleeing violence in India and seeking better economic opportunities. Ethnic violence spilled over among the Indian diaspora in Canada based on ethnic/religious conflicts in India and culminated in the Air India Bombing of 1985 which killed 329 people, the vast majority of them Canadian citizens. In 1986, a Canadian cabinet minister of Indian ancestry was nearly assassinated by a Sikh extremist that had been effectively exiled from India. Anti-terrorism has, as such, been a major component of the relationship between India and Canada.

Relations started improving again after ethnic conflicts calmed down in the 1990s, but they've cooled off in recent years. Relations are often characterized as 'warm', but distant. Relations could be closer, and a lot of international experts are mystified why they aren't closer. Some of this is definitely Canada's fault, but a lot of blame falls on the current Indian government as well. They've been pursuing various Hindu-first policies, displacing and attacking religious and ethnic minorities in favour of a new, constructed Hindustani Nationalistic Identity. The current Indian government is, at times, and not without foundation, accused of fascism. This has done bad things to the numerous non-Hindi minority groups in India and they're facing serious persecution.

This has caused problems in relations because Canada thinks highly of the various minority groups that came over from India, most notably the Sikhs. Sikhs are enormously over represented in Canadian life; they make up 1.4% of the population, 6.2% of all Members of Parliament and 11.4% of major Cabinet level government posts and the (current) leader of the NDP (leftist party, traditionally 3rd largest) is a Sikh. This causes serious friction with India because their current Hindu-first policies are creating a lot of resistance, particularly among Sikh nationalists. India wants Canada to repudiate and marginalize Sikhs at higher levels of government, which isn't going to happen.

I'm going to give Trudeau a bit of credit here he may not deserve. I have a feeling, specifically, that going to various Hindu temples was supposed to be a conciliatory gesture. Hindu nationalists/religious extremists and imported ethnic violence have been the major sticking point in preventing India-Canada relations from becoming closer and he knows that. Making a gesture to appease them will hopefully, change 'warm but distant' relations, to simply warm relations.
 
Lucky bastards. We have to live with the toupee.
As much as I consider the toupee a sign of the death of western democracy, you can't really complain about him in comparison to some other "rulers" people in this thread are saddled with.

Case in point:
Meanwhile, in the Philippines...

Yes, that guy who claims police gunning down streetkids are killing off drug addicts is now advocating killing of bishops. Of course after being interviewed, he'll say its just a joke.
 
As much as I consider the toupee a sign of the death of western democracy, you can't really complain about him in comparison to some other "rulers" people in this thread are saddled with.

Case in point:
It could be worse.
They could have to deal with this! :p

Unironically: I firmly believe that the very existence of a monarchy is utterly unacceptable. It's a nation symbol of inequality, of privilege, of the acceptation that some people are born more important than others and that it's perfectly normal to have an aristocratic hierarchy that dominates the economy, politics and the media.

You can recover from bad leaders in a democracy. But getting rid of something like that and its longlasting social effects? Incredibly difficult.
And as the French example shows, even the guillotine wasn't enough alone!
 
Unironically: I firmly believe that the very existence of a monarchy is utterly unacceptable. It's a nation symbol of inequality, of privilege, of the acceptation that some people are born more important than others and that it's perfectly normal to have an aristocratic hierarchy that dominates the economy, politics and the media.

You can recover from bad leaders in a democracy. But getting rid of something like that and its longlasting social effects? Incredibly difficult.
And as the French example shows, even the guillotine wasn't enough alone!
Hm... after giving this quite some thought, I honestly have to disagree. A well balanced, parliamentary monarchy has quite a few advantages over full democracy. The mixture of capitalism, social media and the information age has created a pretty toxic brew that full democracies are increasingly showing themselves to be unable to handle.

The existence of a ruling group that is divorced from the perverted incentive structures set up by these factors is introducing some direly needed stability.

Just a reminder: You voted for Macron.

You didn't vote for Elizabeth II, but she doesn't need to pander to the lowest common denominator to get re-elected and doesn't have to bribe her cronies to keep her power.
 
*People talk about democracy not working and monarchy not being all that bad*

*Post-soviet countries and Emperor PalPutin are like:
 
Hm... after giving this quite some thought, I honestly have to disagree. A well balanced, parliamentary monarchy has quite a few advantages over full democracy. The mixture of capitalism, social media and the information age has created a pretty toxic brew that full democracies are increasingly showing themselves to be unable to handle.

The existence of a ruling group that is divorced from the perverted incentive structures set up by these factors is introducing some direly needed stability.

Just a reminder: You voted for Macron.

You didn't vote for Elizabeth II, but she doesn't need to pander to the lowest common denominator to get re-elected and doesn't have to bribe her cronies to keep her power.
Ah, but she has no power. She's just... there. She can't reign in the excesses of Parliamentary democracy: she's not even meant to express personal opinions on policy, and she can't dream of actually directly influencing policy!
No, she's there purely as a very expensive and very objectionable symbol of aristocracy.

The issues faced by democracy today aren't caused by God: they're caused by a lack of antitrust regulation in the media industry, and maybe (depending on your political opinions) by a lack of regulation on lobbies and money in politics. Both of these things could be fixed by a strong government.

And about "Macron being the best candidate": that's very debatable. The left actually got far more votes than him in the last election - it's just that they were divided between two candidates who had surprisingly similar policies on many issues ("tax the rich" and "stop favoring corporations so much") but vocally disagreed on a few (like European policy, or how much of a ****** the previous president was).
Macron then won the second round of the election because nobody wanted the far right to win, and so many people rallied to him (although abstention rates were very high that election).
And so overall, France currently has a President who only got 24% of the vote on the first round (when it wasn't "him vs the far right"). And if you include abstention rates and blanc votes, he only got 18% !!! These are official government numbers.
This is another massive problem of course: how can you be ruled by someone so unpopular? Especially when after his election his popularity tanked due to scandals like when he had his private goon illegally beat up civilians in the street during a protest and break weapon carry laws, or when his promised centrist approach and "help the rich but help the poor too" turned out to mean "reduce taxes on the rich and publicly insult the poor while reducing aid for the destitute". That's a big part of the gilet jaune movement actually: forget the issue of increased diesel prices mostly hitting the poor, this has turned into a popularity contest where anyone who doesn't like him protests or says they support the protesters in the polls (hence the 85% approval rating of protesters the other day, despite the very negative media coverage).

That's part of what I like about this quest, by the way: we can go totally crazy in our nation-building because we literally have a perfect, immortal ruler with the personal power to push policies through and the social skills to get the ball rolling. We can try almost anything!
I would have loved to see us try out actual communism, but with magic! Could it work? Would the locals accept it? Who knows! Instead we went the (IMO better) route of "De Gaulle, but a Dragon and with less sexism" which is also cool.
Viserys is basically the wet dream of an "Enlightened Monarch" philosopher. He's even sexy as hell!
 
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It could be worse.
They could have to deal with this! :p

Unironically: I firmly believe that the very existence of a monarchy is utterly unacceptable. It's a nation symbol of inequality, of privilege, of the acceptation that some people are born more important than others and that it's perfectly normal to have an aristocratic hierarchy that dominates the economy, politics and the media.

You can recover from bad leaders in a democracy. But getting rid of something like that and its longlasting social effects? Incredibly difficult.
And as the French example shows, even the guillotine wasn't enough alone!
Here in Denmark we don't have much problems with the Monarchy, but that comes down to the fact that they are absolutely paper tigers, they are contractually required not to have a political opinion, and the only reason they get to keep their titles, is that they make neat figureheads, so as long as they don't try to actually be anything politically, beyond puppets dancing to the governments tune, they get to stay.

Socially they still have some importance, but what they basically are is celebrities with a fancy title, and that's why they have survived as royalty, because over 160 years ago, our current king saw how the wind was blowing, and decided that he would rather be a figurehead than be dethroned, so he gave away most of his power, before a revolution could take it from him, basically he made his family being royalty irrelevant enough to the running of the kingdom, that it really wouldn't be worth the bother to remove them.

And that's pretty much how the common people still see them, important enough that they should respected, not important enough that it's anywhere near worth the hassle to try and remove them.

Then there's the fact that we are the second oldest Monarchy in the world, and the oldest kingdom in the world, and a lot of Danish people take some pride in that.

Personally I'm not a fan of our Monarchy, but I don't really want it gone either, because to do that would at minimum involve a full election just for that, and with how irrelevant they are, getting rid of them isn't worth the bother.
 
Ah, but she has no power. She's just... there. She can't reign in the excesses of Parliamentary democracy: she's not even meant to express personal opinions on policy, and she can't dream of actually directly influencing policy!
No, she's there purely as a very expensive and very objectionable symbol of aristocracy.

The issues faced by democracy today aren't caused by God: they're caused by a lack of antitrust regulation in the media industry, and maybe (depending on your political opinions) by a lack of regulation on lobbies and money in politics. Both of these things could be fixed by a strong government.
I didn't mean to imply that old Lizzy is the perfect example of how it should be run. I do in fact believe that British politics could be greatly improved if she actually meddled now and then.

As for the issues you are naming there, those are just the tip of the iceberg. Obama has shown the world how to incorporate social media into a political campaign (he wasn't the first, but the one that caused the most people around the world to take note of it) and Trump has shown that the classical media can be made entirely irrelevant by them. Reminder here that Trump won against the majority of the US media.

However, no democracy will ever fix this. The democratic governments we get are a result of these systems and the politicians in them have profited from that in the past and plan to profit from it in the future. It's not as if the leftist governments actually follow through with their lofty promises anymore.

Though my opinion might be slightly colored by the death of German social-democracy though.
 
As much as I consider the toupee a sign of the death of western democracy, you can't really complain about him in comparison to some other "rulers" people in this thread are saddled with.

Case in point:

To be fair, he did deliver on his promise of ending crime. Kidnappings, carnappings, hold-ups, and rape at an all time low. The news reports nowadays show police drug raids ending in killings instead... Yes, whatever news you think is sensationalized in CNN is true.

On the other hand, the drug trade is thriving with high prices :rolleyes: which apparently because no one here has ever learned about prohibition.



Anyway, enough real world politics people, we have a running vote. Pleasd cast yours for the update.
 
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