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A Reforged World (NO SV, You are King of Italy, in a Greatly Changed World)

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Well that was a fitting end. Thanks Magoose. Top quality as always. It's been a hell of a ride.
Rockeye said:
History changes. Steam and soot rise from Italy, the commercial center of Europe.

And the wheel grinds on.
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What you talking about?
Magoose said:
Reward: Invented semi-modern coal filters.

The emissions by Italian industries are far less now. The Italian industry is far more effective.

Unknown Positive effect on the entire world.
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We invented coal filters, and Luciano has plenty of time to get them fully modern. It's just steam in the air.
 
Well Greece, enjoy your short-lived independence, because the Ottomans will return and with Suleiman leading them, they will triumph over you. At least France is somewhat neutered, since we didn't lose any of the demands forced on them, but they are still allied with the Ottomans, so they could very well try and make sure Greece fights alone against the Ottomans once they come back.
 
ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Well Greece, enjoy your short-lived independence, because the Ottomans will return and with Suleiman leading them, they will triumph over you. At least France is somewhat neutered, since we didn't lose any of the demands forced on them, but they are still allied with the Ottomans, so they could very well try and make sure Greece fights alone against the Ottomans once they come back.
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Eh, all I will say is this. Because, I rolledif they survived

Um... Greece, you survived.

Sorta...

Listen, you're free, not a great power...

You're more a semi vassal state of the Italians. :V
 
ThatGuyWithIdeas said:
Well Greece, enjoy your short-lived independence, because the Ottomans will return and with Suleiman leading them, they will triumph over you. At least France is somewhat neutered, since we didn't lose any of the demands forced on them, but they are still allied with the Ottomans, so they could very well try and make sure Greece fights alone against the Ottomans once they come back.
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Umm. I think you missed the part where Suleiman gave up on Greece to focus on eastern Europe.
Magoose said:
But he had one list that he could not let go of anymore. He had a choice. Eastern Europe, or Greece.

And he could not hold Greece. The Italian Saw to that.
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Drakewolfbio said:
Man I now wonder how the WW1 would happen in this universe especially given the kinda reverse scenario with France and Germany already.
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All I'm going to say is that the chain of events set in motion...

will drastically change theworld.

And one interesting bit of fun lore I have planned... or rathercreated.

A Russian Siberian break away republic that arrived in the 1780s.
 
Magoose said:
All I'm going to say is that the chain of events set in motion...

will drastically change theworld.

And one interesting bit of fun lore I have planned... or rathercreated.

A Russian Siberian break away republic that arrived in the 1780s.
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So Is Italy a Great Power? Superpower?
 
Randino Treviani said:
. I think you missed the part where Suleiman gave up on Greece to focus on eastern Europe.
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That is a mistake in my opinion greece is no a perfect staging ground for invasion into the heartlands of the Ottomans, not too mention that without greece ottomans are stuck with a navy that will never eclipse ours and in case of war the blockade will split them in twine (unless they conquered everything around the black sea, and even then it makes supply lines almost 5x longer).

Sulleiman may have extended the life of Ottomans but they will lose europe unless multiple miracles happen on the sea and I am talking Italy rolling nat1 3 times in a row anf Ottomans rolling nat100.

Ottomans failed Suleiman but Suleiman doomed the Ottomans to lossing in the long term, and that is if we ignore the possibility of nationalism being birthed earlier because of Italy and Greece.

The moment it is born Italy will be able to straight up break Ottomans by flooding the EE with guns.


England loves us, Austria despises Ottomans, France would have to cross the alps, Spain is focused on new world, Poland and Russia is busy with eachother and whoever wins will want a piece of Ottomans first.

Ottomans are doomed for Italy has no equal other than they that cares about eastern europe and eastern Mediterranean (until we make suez canal and that would be a post ottoman defeat thing).
 
Magoose said:
The French Regency:D100 => 13

War was coming to France, a civil one… where all their victories could be destroyed in an instant.
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Profilozof said:
France would have to cross the alps
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Apparently France is going to be too busy dealing with a crowd that thinks aristocrats belong on lanterns to care about tha Alps.
And of course that Luciano would feel morally obligated to support a republican revolution.
Maybe send them Nappy B as a military advisor...
 
Nemonowan said:
Apparently France is going to be too busy dealing with a crowd that thinks aristocrats belong on lanterns to care about tha Alps.
And of course that Luciano would feel morally obligated to support a republican revolution.
Maybe send them Nappy B as a military advisor...
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Except those aristocrats aren't trying to form a republic.
they just want to be in power rather then the army me who won the war and now want to win the peace
 
Magoose said:
A court of science, engineering, military, and naval stratum.
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Would this bring the 2nd Islamic Golden Age? With their reverse from the Sciences, Suleiman can paint the blame of the losses of the Ottomans to the avoidance of what made them have their Golden Age, and thus team up with some Religious Leaders to have a return to the old policy that once allowed their rapid rise.
 
RealOtto said:
Would this bring the 2nd Islamic Golden Age? With their reverse from the Sciences, Suleiman can paint the blame of the losses of the Ottomans to the avoidance of what made them have their Golden Age, and thus team up with some Religious Leaders to have a return to the old policy that once allowed their rapid rise.
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Yep
 
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