Good point, Brravos mortal magic may be weak, but their fey are mighty. If they really want, we can pick him up after expedition and while the shop is returning, teleport him to Brravos and then put him back later.
Or even on the way there! Expanding his context before going past Volantis should be beneficial imo.
 
Mysterium is the nearest and best source after all.

Would you prefer if they worked with the Lannisters, KL-Alchemists, or contacted the Warlocks of Quarth?

Good magic institutions independent of us are hard to find.
Braavos has nothing worth the name for sure.

Well, if Braavos (or Mantarys perhaps) doesnt work for them, tough luck.

They already are independant themselves seeing as they have a whole order. Which, surprise came from us being extorted / placated them with Velen and now a Limpad.

If we or Braavos arent good enough to hell with their desire for other contacts. Mysterium shant gain influence in the institution we helped them found! :mad:

Tbh Oberyn can fock the right off about going to the Mysterium, and I think we should channel a little Westerosi fuedalism and feel affronted about this. @Duesal

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Adding in recommending him Braavos seems a good idea.
That way he won't be torn by the notion of putting all the eggs in one basket and won't go looking for magics to our enemies.
 
Guys, I think out bottom line is: Don't be stupid looking for cursed loot, you can just use good ol' hard cash to commission exactly what you want from us.

Don't go helping or, worst of all, making deals with someone we are fairly certain we will be stompping soon.
I mean, if any arcanum would have both the impetus and ability to figure out how to no longer be loyal to Lya, it would be evil researcher Lya.
Except she is fundamentally, intrinsincally incapable of doing that.
 
@Duesal maybe offer to teleport him (plus a few companions) from his ship tomorrow ish when they set off to Brravos and return them to the ship before they are due to arrive in the next port?
 
Except she is fundamentally, intrinsincally impactante of doing that.

As long as she is working as designed. I am hesitant to declare that there is no flaw, exploit, or emergent behavior that could let such an arcanum work around inbuilt loyalty. I am saying that if such a flaw or workaround exists, Evil researcher Lya would be the one to find and exploit it.

I'm also grumpy that Nymeria is leaving. Is our horde SD not good enough for her? *huffs*

@Duesal please, forget about Mithral weapons. They do nothing steel doesn't besides being harder to Sunder.

Mithral is for armour.

Agreed.
 
@Duesal maybe offer to teleport him (plus a few companions) from his ship tomorrow ish when they set off to Brravos and return them to the ship before they are due to arrive in the next port?
We could do that, but what are you hoping to do with this?
@Duesal please, forget about Mithral weapons. They do nothing steel doesn't besides being harder to Sunder.

Mithral is for armour.
Alright, removing the Mithral spear. I was only interested in selling it because apparently True Silver has the same DR-piercing qualities as regular silver, but it's redundant since we're selling regular silver anyway.
 
I guess I just fundamentally don't get what is so bad about our allies working with our enemies.
Already didn't understand it with Aberi and Cersei andnow I still don't.:(
 
I guess I just fundamentally don't get what is so bad about our allies working with our enemies.
Already didn't understand it with Aberi and Cersei andnow I still don't.:(

Because our allies aren't all that good or loyal to us to begin with, nor do most of them have the same morals or scruples that we do, so there is an uncomfortably high chance they will instead ally with our enemies, thus becoming our enemies as well.
 
I guess I just fundamentally don't get what is so bad about our allies working with our enemies.
Already didn't understand it with Aberi and Cersei andnow I still don't.:(

Are... Are you some form of outsider? :p

@Duesal basically so he gets a chance to get some more magical context in a city that has some friendly elements at least, and spend his cash there for magic that he's not getting from us for whatever reason, to make him go "Viserys, what a swell guy!" To save him from the lost time that is boat travel.
 
I guess I just fundamentally don't get what is so bad about our allies working with our enemies.
Already didn't understand it with Aberi and Cersei andnow I still don't.:(
It boils down to it being a major violation of trust. It's a general expectation that your supposed allies don't help your enemies. If they do help your enemies, people who are actively either hurting you or threatening you, then they aren't really allies at all.

For example, if we discovered that the Sealord had made a deal with Robert behind our backs and was actively funneling magic items into Westeros, the thread would be rightfully pissed.
 
We could do that, but what are you hoping to do with this?

Alright, removing the Mithral spear. I was only interested in selling it because apparently True Silver has the same DR-piercing qualities as regular silver, but it's redundant since we're selling regular silver anyway.

If Oberyn himself wanted a Mithral weapon or armor, I would be willing to sell it to him, but it would be extremely expensive. No friend, erstwhile ally, or father of a friend discount. He's rich, he can afford it.
 
Oberyn is exactly one of the people to best benefit from Mithral armor. He is a dex based fighter who can't wear armor to get his full dex bonus.
 
The do count as silver without the -1 to damage and attack.
If Oberyn himself wanted a Mithral weapon or armor, I would be willing to sell it to him, but it would be extremely expensive. No friend, erstwhile ally, or father of a friend discount. He's rich, he can afford it.
For Oberyn only I'd personally have no problem with selling the spear. Looking back, after equipping Dany, Tyene, and Vee in Mithral Fullplate (which would take 82.5 pounds of Mithral) we still have 209 pounds left over. That is more than enough of a reserve, and it wouldn't be like Oberyn won't pay full price here.

Alright, adding that back in. One Mithral spear isn't going to take a significant chunk here, and since he's paying for it (if he wants it in the first place) I see no reason not to offer.
 
If Oberyn himself wanted a Mithral weapon or armor, I would be willing to sell it to him, but it would be extremely expensive. No friend, erstwhile ally, or father of a friend discount. He's rich, he can afford it.

I concur, ish, I'd rather sell than for a price, but not as high a price as goldfish. @Duesal, what about offering to sell him a mithril or adamantium spearhead for a for fair price, and explain the various damage resistances and piercing of each.
Maybe offer to +1 it at additional cost if he likes?
 
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You know what would be hilarious?

Suggest Doran arrange a marriage with the city of Mantarys. Well, Yrael or a lieutenant, awakening a whole city is silly.

Edit: Just to mess with the Dornish.
 
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You know what would be hilarious?

Suggest Doran arrange a marriage with the city of Mantarys. Well, Yrael or a lieutenant, awakening a whole city is silly.

Edit: Just to mess with the Dornish.
Speaking of Mantarys we are friends with Angles made of pure holy goodnes. How can we abuse and manipulate this for PR?
Also could we awaken Sorcerers Deep some time later?
 
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