Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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Speaking of Ragnarok:
Of course I could be going off down the garden path since the sentence that inspired this isn't clear if it's referring to Ragnarok or the way of casting Ragnarok multiple times.
We still have two unknown conditions:
For condition number 3: two words 9 letters and 7 letters long. Sacrifice fits the first word and something like "masses", "peoples", or "chattel" would also fit. The Galeans loved turning people, whether they be innocent civilians or enemy soldiers, into weapons so being able to fuel WMDs by draining the life/magic out of captured soldiers, or rounded up civilians if needed, sounds about right for them.
Of course I could be going off down the garden path since the sentence that inspired this isn't clear if it's referring to Ragnarok or the way of casting Ragnarok multiple times.
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- Aurora Missouri
[X] Learn Frost Beam
We already do have that ability, technically. It is the "use 10 cartridges" condition.
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- Sweden
If your idea of it being something along the line of "sacrifice people" is correct, could it be that it requires Divide Energy perhaps? What I'm thinking is that the way it might work is we have the mana go through others instead of going through our Linker Core, so we don't get mana poisoning but we kill/severely damage others. EDIT: Not sure if that would be something that's possible, so who knows?
EDIT 2: I just thought of a word that can fit, and that I'm pretty sure is possible with Divide Energy. Sacrifice Guardian: We let the mana go through Sam's Linker Core, killing her to cast it.
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Lunasmeow
Verified Dragon Deity
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- Tirana, Albania
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- Lord/Master
To be fair, Always Late has a point. "Parallel" universes merely mean that they had the same timeline until some particular event. That "event" doesn't have to be significant to earth's history as we know it. We aren't that important in the grand scheme of things.
Perhaps the Midchildan world had a different event back when the Sol system was still forming, causing the system to have different planets/moons/etc. Which is again why I said the evidence is all circumstantial, not definitive. Unless someone spells it out one way or the other in the show, either is an acceptable answer, though mine is more likely from a percentage standpoint barring unusual circumstances. Which, to be fair, TSAB has. Belkan tech, Al Hazard tech, all kinds of reasons why they might have gotten the ability to travel across universes before galaxies. They're weird like that, so possible, even if not normally plausible in a species' development cycle.
However, the QM basically said they were all parallel earths, so they're all parallel earths. Story end of, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary. Because the QM overrides all of us, no matter how logical our arguments, unless we have definitive proof, and that's only because SW has been kind enough to change decisions before based on canon. SW could say, fuck canon, my story. That's kind of the benefit of being QM.
And yeah, I realize I'm arguing against my own prior post here, but I'm the type to point out pros and cons in any argument, including my own. Because I care about facts, not winning.
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- Britain
Well, yeah, but that requires using resources that could otherwise be spent turning the spell up to eleven, and it's always good to have a fallback. Plus, mana poisoning's no fun.
How does correcting the difference between tactics and strategy make me a "Grammar Nazi"? I did not correct your grammar or spelling as English is not my native language and I never went for linguistics during my higher education. I corrected your terminology. Your arguments didn't make practical sense to me and using the wrong terminology caused me to think that you don't know what you are writing about. And it is not a subtle difference that can be mistaken easily as the word strategy is used for long term planning in multiple facets of life like economics (business strategy which focuses on long term plans of the company) or even in popular entertainment (strategy games that focus on building and planning your expansion). You will never see anyone who knows what both words mean using tactics for long term planning. You might sometimes see someone using strategy for a short term plan (like chess strategy that is used in a single match). But you used the world tactics for long term which I have honestly never heard used that way.
Your metaphor about interplanetary war (doesn't matter if in the same dimension or different ones) comparing it to a land locked war (states inside countries) is a new one that I have honestly never seen used before. All the metaphors for interplanetary war I heard used compare it more to naval warfare and war between island nations. There is a reason why almost everyone uses terms like spaceships, space navy, star fleet, etc. And your argument about blockades is as valid for combat in the same dimension as for blocking help from another dimension. TSAB only has a single method of interplanetary travel. If it's blocked it doesn't matter if the attacked planet would be in a different solar system or in a different dimension. The outcome would be the same as for an island that is blockaded by a superior fleet. No reinforcements can arrive either way.
I used TV show examples only for the technology of teleportation and intergalactic travel as those would be more widely known than the book (which is the medium I personally prefer for my entertainment) authors I mentioned with the argument why my button was pushed. The book authors that are either former military or have degrees in military history. Who at least try to make fictional future war at least somewhat realistic using their own knowledge.
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Magery
Life blooms like a flower, far away or by the road
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- Australia
[X] Learn Ring Bind
How do we not have this already?
How do we not have this already?
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- Buffalo, NY, USA
Better question: How do we not have Burst already?
Best question: How do we not have Frost Beam yet? It's one of our basic skills and yet we've managed to go so long without getting it.
For reference on basic skills:
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
Wow. That's potent. Faster casting time, more projectiles, etc.
Ooh! That is a very nice spell. Would cut down Solar Wrath casting times to about one second while we're in the field.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Also, because I just know somebody's going to ask: yes, the effects of Temporal Sludge and Crescendo DO stack. 9 seconds pass for you for every one that passes for your target. That's enough time time to charge Solar Wrath, fire it, and charge it again.
And no, Crescendo does NOT require you to be within it. It gets fired at its area of effect just like Temporal Sludge does.
Well if you compare it to Temporal Sludge:
It seems pretty clear. We start at 20 seconds per casting, probably go up to 40 seconds per casting at 2/4 Adept, and hit 60 seconds per casting at 4/4 Master.
Alayne
The Reader
- Location
- Home of the Vikings
I'm confused. If we're not inside it how can we be affected by it? Or is it just that we can dump it on a group of allied Blasters if we feel like it without having to 'channel' it since it's not locked to us?
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
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- Germany
The latter. We can just cast Temporal Sludge at the ground under us if we ever want it to affect us for some reason. In the same manner, we can cast Crescendo either close to us to affect us, or somewhere else to affect whatever is there.
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- Buffalo, NY, USA
You're thinking too small.
Have all the heaviest hitting blasters gather together, and speed-boost them during an ENdbringer fight. If we get Ziz in a Temporal Sludge at the same time, even she might not be able to dodge everything.
Sure it's good for us, but it's great as a support spell. It's basically an area-based hastega.
And I still think we would have been better off with Burst.
@Silently Watches - I don't think this has been brought up before; how do Temporal Sludge and Cresendo deal with energy entering/exiting their fields of effect? Logically entering a region of slowed time and exiting a region of accelerated time should increase the power and exiting a region of slowed time and entering a region of accelerated time should decrease the power. But then this is magic so logic may not apply.
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
- Germany
It gets slowed down to match the time dilation. So while a Flare Shooter fired at someone in a TS is faster for them when it's still outside, once it enters the TS, it'll seemingly slow down to the normal speed for those also in the TS.