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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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A quick look back at when we clogged the mountain-waystone near Karak Vlag:
Boney said:
Close examination of the mountain itself reveals nothing; it's not until you move away and examine it from afar that the natural-seeming crags, cracks and gullies combine to form a massive Rune you don't recognize. The next step is to make your way to the peak, which would be no mean feat to those not capable of teleportation or flight, where the nature of the stone is somehow altered to allow for energy to pass through it without any loss of clarity or intensity.
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I think we might have underestimated the potential of runes for tackling the Waystone Nexus problem, directly or indirectly. Even if we could not, for example, recreate a waystone nexus itself, perhaps dwarven runes could allow for us to sidestep the problems of the difficulty of concentrating too much magical energy in one pipeline to easily handle. We do know that dwarven runes do routinely break the known rules of magic, and that dwarven waystone nexuses were built by them without the use of Old One monoliths, albeit in their golden age.

Something to look into, I think.
 
I've had a thought—we might be able to use the Kragg/runesmith favour to wrangle the some sort of benefit for the K8P runesmiths guild, whenever they get refounded. Exclusive Thungnison lore or maybe the adoption of a skilled runesmith into the new clan? Or even just financial and logistical support for the new clan. I'm not quite sure how far a favour would stretch in such circumstances.

It would be very much Mathilde sticking her nose into someone else's business, however—she could probably get away with it if she was still the official loremaster of K8P, but in her current capacity it might come off as very rude.
 
I didn't even realize... But other people probably have

We've got an oversized sword and a buddy with a prosthetic arm, and we're (currently) going for an airship.

Our Warhammer Fantasy... Is Final :o
 
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"But that's a Red Grey Mage! They should be in the back rank!"
"Watch me."

Johann Goldheart, melee boxer.
Egrimm van Gainsborough, Black White Mage.
Duskrider Strife, Red Grey Mage.
Max Valentine, sharpshooter.
Yuffeike, stealth ninja.
Adela Highwind, Mechanist.
Wolf XIII

I see no lies.
 
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I think using the runesmith boon as soon as possible is the way to go. No sense in banking it any longer. Trading it for some other boon if Mathys has no immediate use (e,g. College collab for college boon/CF).

Maybe the elfcation would give us a way in to trade it for some elf boons.
 
RwconHD said:
I think using the runesmith boon as soon as possible is the way to go. No sense in banking it any longer. Trading it for some other boon if Mathys has no immediate use (e,g. College collab for college boon/CF).

Maybe the elfcation would give us a way in to trade it for some elf boons.
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Eh - I'm of the mind that we might be able to wait until after elfcation, since that's really the go/no go on ithilmar armor happening. If it does, we use the boon on getting ithilmar runelore assembled, if it doesn't, we can use it on getting that favor trading arrangement with the colleges going or something.
 
RwconHD said:
I think using the runesmith boon as soon as possible is the way to go. No sense in banking it any longer. Trading it for some other boon if Mathys has no immediate use (e,g. College collab for college boon/CF).

Maybe the elfcation would give us a way in to trade it for some elf boons.
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Might I interest the discerning poster in a Bling Griffon?
 
While a griffin is an incredibly mount have you thought of a black flying Pegasus. They have anti dhar abilities and are almost as murderous.
 
Must admit I thought Johann long ago cashed his in to get gold for his arm-Gilding.
Boney said:
And wow did Dwarf gold make it easier - and I'm beginning to like Dwarves, because human rulers would get sniffy if you want their goodwill payable in precious metals but King Belegar was perfectly fine with it, gave me an absurd amount of silver and a letter of introduction to the Barak Varr mint."
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ReImagined said:
Different boon, I'm pretty sure the one we're talking about is from the final battle, rather than the initial campaign. That said, my assumption's that he'll use it for his next gilding attempt.
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It's possible he'll never do the ritual again. A big part of Johann's motivation for going as far as he did with it was a need to prove and improve himself in light of his inability to use the parts of Chamon more valued by his College.

Johann's a lot more at-peace with himself and who he is these days. He's found faith in Grungni's Pick, found a purpose in WEB-MAT, found other paths to self-improvement, found friends and peers in Eight Peaks and found a crowd in Laurelorn who are in awe of the physical might and martial prowess that he's already attained. There's a lot of extra distance, both physical and emotional, between him and the man he was when he set out on a mission/exile pretending to be a Journeyman.

He might still go in for it in the future (the arm from Uzkulak was cool enough for him to eagerly replace his own with it), but another gilding feels more like an 'if' now than the 'when' it used to be.
 
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RwconHD said:
What would Max do then? Where is his personal project going?
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Could be any number of things—access to gromril, furthering or formalizing his arrangement with the relevant Guilds he's taken lessons from, resources that he can acquire on the behalf of the Gold College which he can then leverage into direct support.

Anyways, for all we know those boons could've already been spent, since Boney's prioritized spending his time more on updates rather than keeping the Dramatis Personae fully up-to-date.
 
RwconHD said:
What would Max do then? Where is his personal project going?
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I don't think we know, but it occurs to me that if you can transform any metal to copper in temproary basis you can work a lot of the harder metals in to whathever shape you want, even better you can alloy them in far beyond what is normally possible with the existing forges. Just incorprating that in to his Dwarven trained blacksmithing will see him spit out kinds of tools or weapons that is impossible to make with current tech.
 
Tasoli said:
I don't think we know, but it occurs to me that if you can transform any metal to copper in temproary basis you can work a lot of the harder metals in to whathever shape you want, even better you can alloy them in far beyond what is normally possible with the existing forges. Just incorprating that in to his Dwarven trained blacksmithing will see him spit out kinds of tools or weapons that is impossible to make with current tech.
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He'd have to invent a spell to do that, it's not something the Gold spellbook does by default.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
He'd have to invent a spell to do that, it's not something the Gold spellbook does by default.
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We know spellbooks are not every spell the collages know. I am very sure transforming one metal to another is a thing they can do, they just don't teach it by default.

I mean we know they can transform parts of people to quicksilver with their latest Battle Altar. It should be so much easier to transform iron to copper.

Edit: honesty it is such a no brainer idea that I am suprised anybody would try to argue that they can't.
 
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Tasoli said:
We know spellbooks are not every spell the collages know. I am very sure transforming one metal to another is a thing they can do, they just don't teach it by default.
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AFAIK, the spellbooks are supposed to be all codified spells. There might be an alchemical way to do it, but alchemy isn't actually spells, even though it's magical.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
AFAIK, the spellbooks are supposed to be all codified spells. There might be an alchemical way to do it, but alchemy isn't actually spells, even though it's magical.
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There also spells like Mathilde's tool free enchantements spells that are codified but is not considered useful enough to add to spellbook. We know it is one of the crterias that they look for.

But let me turn it around to you, Are you actually arguing that Gold Wizards can't turn one metal to another? Or are you just trying to nitpick.
 
As I understand it, to be in the college spellbook, a spell has to fit at least two criteria: can it be easily cast by other members of that college, and it will be broadly applicable to situations that members of that college will typically find themselves in.

Theoretically there's a "temporary change metal to another metal" spell, but it's either too tricky to learn and cast, or the college doesn't believe it's a useful spell for their magisters to learn.
 
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