[X] Channel it into your own apotheosis and claim your rightful place as MATHILDE, GODDESS OF SHADOWS AND HATS.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Dwarven runecrafting creates the most powerful enchanted items in the setting, period. (Warhammer's eponymous warhammer, Ghal Maraz, is a runecrafted warhammer.) The only reason Mathilde doesn't already have a maximum favor set of runed armor is that normal armor inhibits spellcasting. Something runed Ithimar would fix.
No idea how it would compare to von Tarnus's work, but while he was the greatest enchanter of the Colleges, he was not a runesmith.
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RandomTechPriest
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I dont think anyone would look at Runed Ithilmar and think "Wow, that person really loves Elves."
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Before you call something a waste, you must compare it with the opportunity being lost.
Nobody seems to have come up with a better use of the boon. Fire Spire books? They gave that to us for free. Runes of preservation for our library? Could commission standard runesmiths to do an array for that, and it wouldn't really show up much in the quest at all either way. Use it as leverage to assist reconciliation between rhunekits and the wider runesmithing guilds? Boney shot it down. Help Boris with the canals? Boney shot that down too. Most material goods and services? Vlag needs most of what it's got just to recover.
Ithilmar? Boney approved it, said it would be enough to make a suit of armor, and they're keepsakes from the war rather than anything they're actually using for their recovery.
Vlag is not Karak 8 Peaks, on the contrary they are quite poor. Ithilmar is probably the most valuable thing we can expect to get out of them while being ethical and realistic.
I'm also not sure what narrative is being lost by making our own high-spec armor of a sort not produced since the golden age using the culmination of Mathilde's adventures, but for my own tastes, I'd rather it be something new birthed from such a culmination of Mathilde's mark on the world than for her aesthetic to be redefined using the armor of Someone Else.
The Armor of Von Tarnus is a valid choice. But I want to make the Armor of Mathilde Weber.
And also I want an airship that provides fire support for us while wearing it, but I repeat myself.
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so, the liminal realm is not necessarily ulgu or any other wind in nature, if it is a secrete shared amongst the colleges? The first excerpt gave the impression that is it uniquely ulgu (liminality, forest of shadows, etc.)
shepsquared
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It's the same reason the flying ship is so popular now but doesn't even get discussed as part of turn plans. We could organise and pay for it all ourselves and maybe try and incorporate Ulgu into the base mechanics, but that would be an ordeal to keep consistent while also working on the main project.
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Yep.
It's part of why I'm so confident about the runed armor in comparison to getting a flying ship worth using over our gyrocoptor somehow else. With most of the work already done and the remaining work being things that we were going to do anyways for the most part, the armor isn't going to suffer from that problem much.
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@Boney
Random question.
I don't know your ideas about the efficacy of Runes and mechanics of Magic in DL but is it possible to basically do the equivalent of creating a new Element with magic to create more/purer Dhar by doing a whole thing with directed repulsion to essentially force magic into more magic?
Random question.
I don't know your ideas about the efficacy of Runes and mechanics of Magic in DL but is it possible to basically do the equivalent of creating a new Element with magic to create more/purer Dhar by doing a whole thing with directed repulsion to essentially force magic into more magic?
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Parabola
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Yeah, we've bounced a lot of ideas for the Boon, but none of them have really gained that much in popularity. Ithilmar seems pretty viable... assuming the Armor of Von Tarnus doesn't win this vote, ironically. It's still anyone's game.
If the Armor does win... I don't know. Maybe I'll actually push to use the Vlag boon to troll Vlad.
Sir_Travelsalot
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I'm fairly certain Dhar mixing into other Winds will create more Dhar without any kind of directed or deliberate effort needed; that's rather the entire problem with Dhar.
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Oh for sure I remember that, just reading the Rune mechanics Boney did for the Morbs made me think about it. Honestly I think Boney may have already done a bit about how Refined Warpstone for the Skaven's Warpstone tokens is made, its been years admittedly. But just getting a specific form of refined Warpstone for currency by condensing it in the equivalent of a magical pill press is a fun thought.
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deathofrats0808
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This is the only Boney post I could find on the making of 'refined' warpstone:
No ship that lacks cannon can call itself dedicated to warfare. Fireball ballista are but a poor imitation of proper Imperial artillery.
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Two of those are very much assumptions- I've seen pretty much no discussion on Thorek's adventure before this, and the idea that we'll get some grand favors out of elfcation (which we haven't even voted to go on yet) has no real basis.
Runed ithilmar could be neat, but isn't nearly as sure a thing as you present it as- nor as easy. And even if everything works out perfectly, it still likely wouldn't be as good as the armor we could choose right now.
Whether or not the Grey College was originally an entirely typical liminal realm, in its current state it is extremely not. Having one hypothesis as to its origin does not crack open two centuries of accumulated institutional mythology.
That question seems extremely likely to create a sequel to Mordheim.
I suspect that refined Warpstone is refined not in the sense of made more pure, but instead made more precise. That it is altered in a way that stops it from constantly irradiating its surroundings with Dhar, but when it is required to break down into energy, it does so more readily. Some sort of chemical or crystal lattice that encapsulates the Warpstone, so there's less actual Warpstone content by weight but when it is made use of, it releases its energy more rapidly and more cleanly than its 'natural' burn rate.
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It does, however, make it very straightforward for Mathilde if/when there is another Lord/Lady Magister when it's her turn to provide another competing hypothesis:
"It's a creation of Aetheric Vitae."
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In my headcanon,( which is obviously subjectively correct) magic outside of runes wants to affect things,and that is the main thing it does. So,if you meet it halfway( arcanae mark, materials affected by a wind, a ritual created for it and enacted on the world on its behalf) it gets more cooperative. ( not safe, never safe)
This also explains why making magic items is hard and dangerous, since you restrict its ability to affect the world.
I think dhar is the same, and what it wants is death, destruction mutation and corruption.
Now,what do skaven have a lot of? Skaven!
I imagine a ritualchamber in every clans main fortress, where raw warpstone is used to kill and mutate skavenslaves. The resultant crystals,soaked in blood, are calmer,reassured that they will be used to harm again.
This would also suggest that refined warpstone that isnt used soon enough reverts back, and that warpstone sealed away for a long time is even more volatile.
Which seems apropriate.
Funnily enough, that's not mutually exclusive with the answer Boney gave us last time the topic came up.
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I have a question. Earlier we got told that legalising the Hedgewise isn't doable because they'd prefer getting persecuted over lying and saying they're all one tradition, but what about just legalising the Halethans? It's not a total solution but it would at least cover a good bunch of people.
Possible, but it would come with the responsibility to absorb or destroy the other Hedgewise traditions.
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Isn't that already the Colleges' responsibility? It's how Krammovitch's parents went toast.
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Kinda.
But as long as the Hedgefolk, and the hedgewise, keep their heads down, college's can take their time in assessing their suitability.
You make them official, and any figleaf is gone.
We bring in one group of HEdgewise, and say they exist as part of Grey College or something like that, then it becomes a more immediate issue in bringing in everyone else, or destroying them if they refuse to play ball.
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