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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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One thing that I think the ship will help is Mathilde's ability to exert force onto a target. At the moment she is able to do the sneaky stuff very well, but that does have its limits as she just doesn't have the sheer brute military force on hand to deal with some targets.

Sure she can assassinate their leaders, sneak in to sabotage things and the like, but she doesn't have anything for when she just needs to murder death kill an entire enemy encampment or smash a fortification. The ship provides that, both in terms of its weapons and in the form of the troops we will be stationing on it.
 
Sinsystems said:
One thing that I think the ship will help is Mathilde's ability to exert force onto a target. At the moment she is able to do the sneaky stuff very well, but that does have its limits as she just doesn't have the sheer brute military force on hand to deal with some targets.

Sure she can assassinate their leaders, sneak in to sabotage things and the like, but she doesn't have anything for when she just needs to murder death kill an entire enemy encampment or smash a fortification. The ship provides that, both in terms of its weapons and in the form of the troops we will be stationing on it.
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The thing is, an airship probably can't actually carry that many people. Sure, it's an adventuring party rather than just Mathilde, but it's not likely to be an army.

A flying castle can probably carry an army, but I din't think a flying castle in in the table.
 
Alratan said:
The thing is, an airship probably can't actually carry that many people. Sure, it's an adventuring party rather than just Mathilde, but it's not likely to be an army.

A flying castle can probably carry an army, but I din't think a flying castle in in the table.
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I mean, not an army. But even small ships can carry 50 people + provisions and we probably aren't getting the smallest ship possibly. A small war party is definitely in the cards if we so choose. Also instant elevated artillery platform counts for a lot.
 
Alratan said:
The thing is, an airship probably can't actually carry that many people. Sure, it's an adventuring party rather than just Mathilde, but it's not likely to be an army.

A flying castle can probably carry an army, but I din't think a flying castle in in the table.
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Worth noting that a castle was not typically meant to hold all that many troops and was built precisely to neutralise major numerical disadvantages so that it could be held by its lord and their retainers against a numerically superior besieging force until help arrived. A marching camp or fortified town it was not! (Exceptions existed, of course - my vague understanding is that crusader castles in particular were often built to accommodate more sizeable garrisons.)
 
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Alratan said:
The thing is, an airship probably can't actually carry that many people. Sure, it's an adventuring party rather than just Mathilde, but it's not likely to be an army.

A flying castle can probably carry an army, but I din't think a flying castle in in the table.
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One of the criteria that the current plan for the ship has is enough space for a medium sized group of elite troops. That plus the weapons on the ship can count for a lot in a surprise insertion via flying ship.

Even 20 well equipped troops can cause utter havoc in that scenario, discounting the odds that they might be given some magical stuff from us.
Tobtorp said:
I mean, not an army. But even small ships can carry 50 people + provisions and we probably aren't getting the smallest ship possibly. A small war party is definitely in the cards if we so choose. Also instant elevated artillery platform counts for a lot.
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And it would probably get even crazier if we decide to use some Knightbringer derived enchantments.
 
Natch said:
Yeah on remembering it would take two Great Deeds to up Mathilde to Baroness, I can't see the EC plan happening unless she just started stockpiling like crazy by Alric-ing all over the Empire with Protector on.

My next best guess is that if it came down to Manfred vs Roswita for next emperor, Heidi might try to bribe Mathilde with a favor of that scale.
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Baroness was, if I remember correctly, a title we could have gotten if we'd gone with ruling Eastern Stirland instead of the Waystone Project. Basically, the title comes from being in charge of something roughly the size of a province, which would require liberating the Drakwald and resettling it. Justification would come with reclaiming lost Waystone Nexuses and eliminating a major source of threats to the Empire at the same time.

Just as the dwarves would eventually launch a hellwar to reclaim a lost nexus, the Empire presumably would too, except it'd have the additional incentives in the form of resettling lost territory and removing corruption from their own backyard.
 
Tobtorp said:
I mean, not an army. But even small ships can carry 50 people + provisions and we probably aren't getting the smallest ship possibly. A small war party is definitely in the cards if we so choose. Also instant elevated artillery platform counts for a lot.
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Sinsystems said:
One of the criteria that the current plan for the ship has is enough space for a medium sized group of elite troops. That plus the weapons on the ship can count for a lot in a surprise insertion via flying ship.

Even 20 well equipped troops can cause utter havoc in that scenario, discounting the odds that they might be given some magical stuff from us.
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Yeah, something along those lines was my reasoning. I got the impression that people in the thread want something that's mostly ours, but leaving enough room to impressively help others out every so often. And... well, let's take a Wolfship as an example:
If it's just transporting soldiers and not housing them for extended periods of time, I'd assume you can comfortably fit several dozen troops, or somewhere between a hundred or two hundred if they don't mind bumping shoulders both above and below deck. Dunno if they can fit any mounts comfortably, but even barefoot knights are a force to be reckoned with. And maybe the numbers go a bit up if you assume that dwarfs take up less space...
 
If those fifty people were battle mages... well, we'd probably go down on the second or third miscast, but imagine the light show up till then!
 
I think i'm going to add the armor to my approval vote... i think i've been souring more towards the flying warship as the vote goes on. The vibes just...dont feel right for it? Specifically in how it would interact the broader...narrative is the wrong word...it just feels like its a big enough thing that it'll affect more parts of the plot/quest than i like in ways that vibe wrong for me? Also, while I'm sure boney will make it work great, it does feel like the kind of thing that would take more work to write? While i do prefer mathilde's current robes vibe-wise, the armor would be a much more background change, 'just' a powerful mechanical advantage that will make things safer for mathilde without adding in a bunch of new capabilities that will alter the whole range of "what makes sense for mathilde to try to do and how can she go about it?"

[X] Save the boon until we choose our next project
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Plan Not Pickle Requests Variant with Apparitions
[X] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice

[X] Armor of von Tarnus
 
Parabola said:
Yeah, something along those lines was my reasoning. I got the impression that people in the thread want something that's mostly ours, but leaving enough room to impressively help others out every so often. And... well, let's take a Wolfship as an example:
If it's just transporting soldiers and not housing them for extended periods of time, I'd assume you can comfortably fit several dozen troops, or somewhere between a hundred or two hundred if they don't mind bumping shoulders both above and below deck. Dunno if they can fit any mounts comfortably, but even barefoot knights are a force to be reckoned with. And maybe the numbers go a bit up if you assume that dwarfs take up less space...
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I mean imagine if we had a few Slayers on board that we throw at a problem, that would be terrifying.
 
I figured I'd we need a brute squad we'd get a unit of iron-divers from the new Loremaster? Gromril plate and rappelling harnesses.
 
Personally for crew I'd like some of the dwarven sailors of barak varr, they'd be familiar with weird places for a dwarf to be, boarding actions, cramped living quarters in a ship And such.
 
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