There is also this beaut to consider. Even if we're quite a few decades away from when we could plausibly design it.
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Yes, The PROJECT NAME is the Constitution aka the workhorse class ship Kirk wrote history with.
The DESIGN BRIEF is for a Warship that cuts out all the cost.
This is extremely conflicting information, and causing all the problems. We were told we get to make the Connie, then a rug pull of NOPE gotta make a warship sorry.
To be clear I want to make the Connie, I want to make MegaConnie that goes to the border and shakes her head in Disapoint at the Klingons and shows them why it was a bad idea to poke a sleeping bear. I just don't want "Canon with a paintjob" because what's the point? Why have a quest if you're just going to do the same thing.
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There is also this beaut to consider. Even if we're quite a few decades away from when we could plausibly design it.
Again, that nacelle just juts out so much. Just... bring it in a few dozen meters so that it just clears the underslung module, and I'm perfectly happy with the design.
There is also this beaut to consider. Even if we're quite a few decades away from when we could plausibly design it.
Just the sheer psychological effect alone of seeing that thing coming towards you would be a potent terror weapon by itself.
Yeah no this is gross.There is also this beaut to consider. Even if we're quite a few decades away from when we could plausibly design it.
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honestly the main problem with the Saladin is that the nacelle pylon is way too long. The Kelvin looks much better as much because the nacelle was drawn in much closer to the actual hull as because the secondary hull provides a visual counterweight to the design.
Eh. This basically has the same issue as the Saladin: the nacelle pylon is way too long. look at it, there's like seven or eight decks in that thing!There is also this beaut to consider. Even if we're quite a few decades away from when we could plausibly design it.
(also if you look you can see that's not actually a single nacelle, it's two nacelle assemblies crammed into one housing.)
Actually if this chart is to be believed it's just a 2ft Enterprise D nacelle. Well, for the actually used model.
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This. This is the problem with most of the canon single nacelle designs. They put the nacelles out on super-duper-long pylons that make the ships look gangly and unbalanced.
Oh, I just thought up the compromise ship between an inline deflector and more photon torpedoes.
We build an inline deflector but have an underslung secondary hull anyway, but it consists of nothing but a rectangular box of 12 photon torpedo tubes.
We build an inline deflector but have an underslung secondary hull anyway, but it consists of nothing but a rectangular box of 12 photon torpedo tubes.
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To stop memeing for a second, I think what really makes it not work is that the nacelle pylon is also too thin. It feels like it can't be plausibly holding the stuff the ship needs, and the saucer is also very thin. It's like seeing a model of a plane were like, the propeller is just stuck on a pole or something. If the pylon were thicker and more like a "neck", then the ship would look less skeletal and more ship-like, I think.
The cannon jutting out is also really not Star Trek visual language for weapons, although it does have a distinctive kitbashed charm.
The cannon jutting out is also really not Star Trek visual language for weapons, although it does have a distinctive kitbashed charm.
Huh.
Given most of the inline deflector ships could still mount two torpedo tubes, an inline deflector and 2x ventral engineering hulls like the Newton has might be a good way to get us to 4x torpedo tubes.
Funnily enough, it comes from the Constellation (and we do see the Soyuz-class with the mega phasers jutting out of it).
One detail we didn't spot back in the early 2000's is some sort of cannon pod on the ventral side of the saucer, instead of a sensor dome. The CGI made for the Eaglemoss Official Starships Collection includes this cannon. We can barely make it out on the only official photo of the ship too. But we already know this cannon. The same detail can be found on the ventral side for the Constellation-class (USS Stargazer) filming miniature. So while Greg Jein was at it, he did not only create a cast of the neck for the Freedom class but also of the cannon.
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I think it also just looks unstable. There's a small part of my brain that's convinced it's going to fall over any second now.
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[X] 140 Meter Half-Saucer (140,000 Tons)
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I mean okay, let's try it. How does this look?(ignoring the various editing errors.)
Neck still looks a bit thin, keep in mind the ship is like 400m+ long so the saucer is rather wide itself.
The Joule class LIVES!!!!
But seriously, two underslung hulls wrapped around a pair of massively oversized rapid torpedo launchers would be hilarious.
Just giant underslung photon torpedo cannons.
Oh cheers! Will go and fix that now, TY.
Fair enough, but I think given the aesthetics we see for Federation phasers of various eras in most Trek media, I'd still be more tempted to interpret* that as a sensor. Perhaps if maybe a tactically focussed sensor system or something, as a compromise. Like even the "phaser lance" we see on the future Enterprise-D does not have a pointy cannon that I recall, it's recessed into the ship. Of course it is entirely possible the Federation experimented with cannons more like Klingon ones on a few testbed ships, and it does capture that sort of ugly duckling feeling of a prototype cold war tank or helicopter or something mounting an odd weapons system. I am just being unreasonable. 😅
*(Translation: Make up whatever I want and insist it is the most accurate to the source material.)
I mean okay, let's try it. How does this look?(ignoring the various editing errors.)
Make the pylon less thin/more of a wedge profile so one can imagine some of the ship's systems and maybe even the warp core stuck in there, and I think it starts to look like a really plausible and quite fun little patrol ship honestly.
I'm not even that much of a Trekkie and giving the Enterprise a half-saucer feels viscerally wrong. If this was a purely original ship class it'd be different. Heck I'd might be voting for a half-saucer if that was the case.
But this isn't an original class. It's the freaking Enterprise. It should be treated with respect.
Makes me wonder if people would be voting differently if we didn't have the temporal sword of Damocles hanging above our heads.
But this isn't an original class. It's the freaking Enterprise. It should be treated with respect.
Makes me wonder if people would be voting differently if we didn't have the temporal sword of Damocles hanging above our heads.
Yes. 100% would not be getting a half saucer if not for that.
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You might want to reformat these votes to
[] 140 Meter Thin Saucer (140,000 Tons) [Canon: Constitution-class]