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Is Stirland still economically in the ditch? I thought that between Wilhelmina's econ work, new factory and infusion of K8P veteran cash, it should be on the upward trajectory for at least some time.

It seems pretty plausible to me that Stirland is now on track to be one of the richer parts of the empire. They've been able to draw down a good bit of the standing army, and have now realized the dream of being the trade crossroads that Julia speculated about all the way back then.
 
Is Stirland still economically in the ditch? I thought that between Wilhelmina's econ work, new factory and infusion of K8P veteran cash, it should be on the upward trajectory for at least some time.

The continuing dregs of the war and the transition to rebuild Sylvania's infrastructure has probably been very expensive.

Stirland is in a vastly better position to develop than it has been for a very long time, but the amount of available liquid capital it has to pay for imported goods and services that hasn't already been committed may well be pretty limited.

It has a lot of growth potential, but is still probably cash poor, and what there is is probably pretty well spoken for. It may well be prosperous in a generation, but that means it's generating big surpluses now.

And if it does need to buy expensive Waystones, that leaves less capital to invest in the other things that will make it safe and prosperous.
 
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There's a very simple and basic rule for solving engineering problems. Take any large problem and break into small enough problems to understand and solve. Solve one problem, then solve the second problem, and so on until the problem is solved/you have a working device. The waystone project has done this well so far. It would be a shame to stumble at the end. According to this engineering principle, it would be better to design a waystone with a single working transmission method before trying to add a second. I've worked on lots of engineering projects; the ones that attempted to do too much at the same time have all run into problems caused by not following this engineering principle. So I'm approval voting for several plans that aim to do one thing and do it well.

[X] Plan Simple and Functional
[X] Plan: Repairing The Network First
[X] Plan Keep It Simple
[X] Plan: The FEMA Model
[X] Plan: The FEMA Model (Collegiate Foundation Edition)
[X] Plan Simple and Functional
 
Stirland's economy may have a constant drain in the form of needing the keep its army well-supplied, but it should have gotten a shot in the arm from selling the Haunted Hills' land, selling timber from starting to cut down the gribbly-haunted forests, towns in Sylvania starting to pay taxes in gold rather than blood, and now the canal opening. It should be fine economically, better than it used to be, although just how fine is an open question.

Like, remember: one of the upsides of Stirland, outlined back at the first vote of the quest, is that it had "Untapped Potential". Though it has taken a lot of investment and a lot of luck to get as far as we have, we are beginning to see the fruits of it.
 
Is Stirland still economically in the ditch? I thought that between Wilhelmina's econ work, new factory and infusion of K8P veteran cash, it should be on the upward trajectory for at least some time.
The factory probably isn't going to be a major factor in the overall Stirland economy.

Blutdorf would need to develop into a mini-Nuln for that to be the case.
 
I think the biggest issue for Stirland's economy right now would be the lack of skilled labour. It's a much better place to live in today, but it still has a reputation, and Sylvania isn't completely tamed yet, so there's probably a brain drain to Nuln and Altdorf as people realise they can get better work in a safer region.
 
Stirland's economy may have a constant drain in the form of needing the keep its army well-supplied, but it should have gotten a shot in the arm from selling the Haunted Hills' land, selling timber from starting to cut down the gribbly-haunted forests, towns in Sylvania starting to pay taxes in gold rather than blood, and now the canal opening. It should be fine economically, better than it used to be, although just how fine is an open question.

Like, remember: one of the upsides of Stirland, outlined back at the first vote of the quest, is that it had "Untapped Potential". Though it has taken a lot of investment and a lot of luck to get as far as we have, we are beginning to see the fruits of it.

And it's getting even better as the Tributary rollout continues and removes more and more Dhar from the land. The half of Stirland that isn't Sylvania is probably doing pretty well by Empire standards, and the half that is Sylvania is doing better than at literally any point since 1111, which was closer in time to Sigmar than to Magnus the Pious
 
And it's getting even better as the Tributary rollout continues and removes more and more Dhar from the land. The half of Stirland that isn't Sylvania is probably doing pretty well by Empire standards, and the half that is Sylvania is doing better than at literally any point since 1111, which was closer in time to Sigmar than to Magnus the Pious

The Tributaries are a slow burn. They're gradually make things better as year by year there are fewer mutants and people and crops are generally healthier, but it'll take generations for the population to expand and for the area of cultivated land to expand, which is what will really grow the tax base.

Stirland has certainly turned a corner and nearly closed the running sore that was Sylvania, but I think the province is just as that beginning of a slow ascent to real prosperity.
 
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And it's getting even better as the Tributary rollout continues and removes more and more Dhar from the land. The half of Stirland that isn't Sylvania is probably doing pretty well by Empire standards, and the half that is Sylvania is doing better than at literally any point since 1111, which was closer in time to Sigmar than to Magnus the Pious
The tributaries aren't deployed in Sylvania because there aren't enough Waystones there to make them work. They're only in Stirland, and Mathilde projected ten years until full coverage. Right now we're just in Year 1.
 
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The tributaries aren't deployed in Sylvania because there aren't enough Waystones there to make them work. They're only in Stirland.

Yes, but Sylvania is better than anytime in the last many centuries by virtue of not being full of vampires and necromancers, and the (comparatively) few that still remain are in hiding or laying low instead of ruling random towns and terrorizing peasants.
 
Pretty good overall, though I feel like you could have afforded a bit more detail. I would have added a bit about how she helped reclaim K8P and Karak Vlag, and how that's already two nexuses on her name, and--

...Actually... Hey, do you guys think Laurelorn had any nexuses they no longer control? My gut reaction would be no, given the amount of time and effort they've expended on making their forest a veritable fortress against enemies, and their amount of magical might at their disposal, but now that the thought has occurred to me, I feel like that's a worrying possibility.
The Brass Keep. I haven't updated the public map with the Laurelorn network, but I was always wondering which nexus the Brass Keep linked to. The Brass Keep is nexus 27. The closest nexus to it is Middenheim. If that guess is correct, and it might not be, it should be a simple matter to get Laurelorn to help with the Brass Keep. But the Brass Keep has been held by the enemy long enough that it might not be salvageable.

Though I still want to investigate Laurelorn's network. I want to know why Salzenmund has a nexus and Kor Immarmor does not.

I'll update the map once we get the results of the Karaz Ankor network action.
 
[X] Plan Building A Better Future (With reverse engineering)

[X] Plan: Repairing The Network First
 
The tributaries aren't deployed in Sylvania because there aren't enough Waystones there to make them work. They're only in Stirland, and Mathilde projected ten years until full coverage. Right now we're just in Year 1.
Ten wizard-years.
"It would take a full survey of the existing Waystone and tributary network to say for sure, but my best estimate right now would be about five Wizard-years of effort to really nail down the eastern edges of Central and Southern Stirland, and about the same to bolster the network throughout the rest of Stirland."
There are three wizards doing it, so actual completion is in three-odd years.
Tochter confers with her College and then disappears up north to winkle out her quarry: a trio of Journeymen with a knack for rituals, currently employed by the swineherds of Grimmenhagen.
[Stirland Tributaries underway. Estimated completion date: late 2493.]
 
[X] Plan Building A Better Future (With reverse engineering)

Bit of a stretch goal, but if we drop orbs and the AV book next turn before going on the elfcation, then between that and this hopefully working prototype, we might get enough attention to be able to personally poke a few archmages in Ulthuan about refining that storage mechanism enough for sub-archmage enchanters to make it. Probably nothing in depth, but enough to write home about before we head off to do shadow things like we were originally invited to do.
 
[X] Plan Building A Better Future (With reverse engineering)

A plan with all the stuff I wanted, terrific
 
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[X] Plan Building A Better Future

I'm against the reverse-engineered storage. We do not have the enchanters to mass-produce this, and while I'm sure the ancients used an easier way of producing the same enchantment, meaning it exists, I don't see the point of wasting time trying to find it when we already have other solutions that work just as well.
 
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