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Iridium Flare
Cyborg Commando
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- AC-130 Gunship circling overhead
I mean, Vulcan ships are basically needles with a big ol' ring-shaped warp drive, so it's at the very least viable, and likely has enough benefits that they see it as the logical choice.
Enthusiast#117
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- United States
The entire point of the dreadnought is two things: 1) a more massive ship can last longer in a fight. 2) our guns have trouble breaking through Romulan shields, and we need more guns on a ship to punch our way through those shields reliably.
How many guns do we need? We don't know.
If we went full Arrowhead, would the forward arc be enough to punch through? We don't know.
Maybe the full saucer will have enough guns on every arc to do the job and punch through the enemy shields reliably in all directions at once.
Maybe.
I kind of doubt it, but it's possible.
I suspect that it simply would be better than what we have now, but not enough to really change the game.
I think the full saucer option would just be making a bigger NX.
How many guns do we need? We don't know.
If we went full Arrowhead, would the forward arc be enough to punch through? We don't know.
Maybe the full saucer will have enough guns on every arc to do the job and punch through the enemy shields reliably in all directions at once.
Maybe.
I kind of doubt it, but it's possible.
I suspect that it simply would be better than what we have now, but not enough to really change the game.
I think the full saucer option would just be making a bigger NX.
0t4n1z3r019
Member of the HAFPTG
- Location
- Philippines
Well, a lot of people in here tend to sneer at anyone who even dared to change the design aesthetics of Starfleet.
- Location
- The internet
[X] Half-Saucer
[X] Arrowhead
[X] Arrowhead
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Vulcans are still using the same ship designs in the 24th century as they were in the 22nd, so I expect the "logic" here is really more rationalized traditionalism.
But we aren't "Vulcan Ship Design Bureau Quest", we are the Starfleet Design Bureau Quest.
It isn't like we had any options to go for designs that actually depart from Starfleet, but even then, the very core conceit of this Quest is that we are designers for the UE/UFP, of course are we going to design in their aesthetic.
In all honesty that part is a very big reason why I love this Quest, it is very design-consistent (thanks to QM-vetted choices) & not looking out of place in ST.
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Chargone
Invisable operator
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- New Zealand
The cloaks are a problem easily solved (to the extent we can solve it At All) as a matter of doctrine.
Romulan shields allowing them to push right past our ships to strike our worlds is rather more directly a problem that needs solving with ship design.
Sure, the cloaks are a consideration, but they're a lesser problem, and a less solvable one, than the shields.
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... I hate to say this but that could, just could, be because this is a *Star Trek* ship builder, and it's not like we're actually getting the interesting Vulcan or Andorian designs. A lot of times, I'm just not impressed with "build this because it's not Trek" in a Trek quest. (tbh given what we see in TNG, I'd be willing to venture the Vulcan Ring ship isn't actually good at high warps.)
The half-saucer's fine, tbh, at least it'lll do the job we ask of it, but a lot of the arrowhead logic assumes that the fleet will always keep things off it, and I don't think I'd want to rely on it!
[x] Full Saucer
All around gun coverage is practically vital for the role this ship is meant to assume.
All around gun coverage is practically vital for the role this ship is meant to assume.
CubicAppalac
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- United States, Appalachia
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- He/Him
Which I don't get. I mean, yeah, people'd want to keep the design aesthetics of Starfleet, but in this situation I'd think going unorthodox would be better. Either a more angular hull, or half-saucer or something. But that's my opinion.
- Location
- California
[X] Half-Saucer
[x] Full Saucer
[X] Arrowhead
Ugh, fine, whatever. Half saucer is shit that's the worst of both so fine. Here's hoping we can do something actually interesting with other features of the ship.
[X] Arrowhead
Ugh, fine, whatever. Half saucer is shit that's the worst of both so fine. Here's hoping we can do something actually interesting with other features of the ship.
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- Location
- United States
[X] Arrowhead
Or failing that
[X] Half-Saucer
If we weren't at a technological disadvantage I would say Full or Half-Saucer, but we need to be able to take their shields down quickly to lessen the disadvantage of not having shields, and while the full saucer would have the most coverage it wouldn't take down shields any faster than the NX. In cannon, and thus most likely here as well, current torpedos don't do much against the shielding of most opponents, so we need as much concentrated Phase Cannon as we can get.
Or failing that
[X] Half-Saucer
If we weren't at a technological disadvantage I would say Full or Half-Saucer, but we need to be able to take their shields down quickly to lessen the disadvantage of not having shields, and while the full saucer would have the most coverage it wouldn't take down shields any faster than the NX. In cannon, and thus most likely here as well, current torpedos don't do much against the shielding of most opponents, so we need as much concentrated Phase Cannon as we can get.
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- Location
- United States
[X] Full Saucer
What if we did both?
Like, by either having half of a saucer at the back, arrowhead at the front, or maybe having 2 hulls with both shapes?
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Dread it, run from it, the multi-saucer hull arrives all the same.
[X] Both
Is this okay? First time voting in a quest