Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Does this thing want to make Molly a outsider exalted or sth? Is that even possible?

Ah no, it is saying that it will deliver her to the place she chose, so presumably the White God, instead of claiming her even if it will burn out the body to do so.

Prince.

It took a me while to understand the sentence, the capitalisation made it harder and I fixated on what it meant by Price.

Thanks, fixed, sorry for the trouble that caused.
 
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I don't expect we'll learn anything from speaking to the Walker, nor that anything we say will affect it. The more we talk, the more bystanders hear shit that isn't any of their business.

[X] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it
 
[X] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it
 
Is BSM active by the way? I thought we voted to do this splattered in Madrigal's blood, and the difficulty adjustment isn't insignificant.

Incidentally, sounds like it's time to try for some GSNF. We can eat most of its Agg soak with it and get more of our attacks through. Just need to mind the essence burn.

For all our discussions of defense and long term stuff, I'm kind of leaning towards getting our prefect attack as soon as we can after our hell so that we can fry people more easily.

Also, @DragonParadox have they slipped entirely into old realm by this point or is this conversation decipherable by the rest of the room?
This place, this city is now upon the cusp of finding out what it looks like when the thoughts of those who have preyed upon mankind of millennia run rampant.
… Well this is going well. Fantastic plan house Skavis. Well done.

You take 1 Lethal Damage -> Now at 10/11 Bruised

You ignore her, as you do to the grizzled fellow attempting to dig his way to your spine while calling out warcries in a language you do not recognize, it's just a human language after all.

Surprised these guys are still going at it with all this nonsense going on.

I don't expect we'll learn anything from speaking to the Walker, nor that anything we say will affect it. The more we talk, the more bystanders hear shit that isn't any of their business.

[X] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it
Think we need a stunt refresh too. Need to maximize that roll differential.
 
Also, @DragonParadox have they slipped entirely into old realm by this point or is this conversation decipherable by the rest of the room?

Molly did not say die in English, that much is clear. As for what it's speaking... well it gives her a mild headache to even listen to it, other than the two words that are in italics Empyreal Chaos, those are also not English though not painful to listen to.

Edit: BSM is active
 
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can we ask about past battles it enjoyed, might get a little bit of history or the species name of powerful things that float around.if its something that survuved fighting an outsider , it may be found later to aly with. through that is very unlikely.
 
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The sad thing is that, ultimately, we're not winning this war by the blade: At best every fight against the Outside is a holding action at best since we can never strike back and the seething chaos out there is infinite in a literal sense. But diplomacy is so many fucking levels of dangerous its like trying to fuck the innermost section of Chernobyl while its going supercritical.

My suggestion? Fight but do so in a respectful, knightly fashion yourself. Keep things proper and return courtesy for courtesy even while using our full might to kill the thing. Send it back to the waste beyond the sky with a smile on its 'face'.

Don't give it too many hooks into you but, well, I'm fine with it enjoying the fight and enjoying its 'death'.
 
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The sad thing is that, ultimately, we're not winning this war by the blade: At best every fight against the Outside is a holding action at best since we can never strike back and the seething chaos out there is infinite in a literal sense. But diplomacy is so many fucking levels of dangerous its like trying to fuck the innermost section of Chernobyl while its going supercritical.
I think you underestimate Exalted.

We can exist in the chaos Outside. If we get back Wyld-shaping Charms we can even form it into more Reality.
And we can certainly strike back and permakill those outsiders most bend on direct action against Creation (assuming there are both those and other outsiders more interested in staying where they are).

Edit: Though admittedly, all of these are rather long-term goals.
 
[] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it

You know, I'm gonna check....

*Do so*

No mention of Eldritch at any point....

Seems like it isn't a rule. :V

The more we talk, the more bystanders hear shit that isn't any of their business.

Hmm:
Molly did not say die in English, that much is clear. As for what it's speaking... well it gives her a mild headache to even listen to it, other than the two words that are in italics Empyreal Chaos, those are also not English though not painful to listen to.

Edit: BSM is active

They're not gonna understand anything of this conversation, we have slipped into old realm, and the Walker is speaking tongues, no risks on that front.

[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
I don't expect we'll learn anything from speaking to the Walker, nor that anything we say will affect it. The more we talk, the more bystanders hear shit that isn't any of their business.

[X] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it
It isn't as if we are speaking english. I doubt anyone else here speaks old realm.
[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
Sixfold faster than Molly? Isn't Molly already at a permanent 3x speed boost? What with his minions moving at half his speed, that means the Outsider is currently going at 18x normal human speed and his minions 9x. They must be moving like blurs at this point, and they're still losing to Molly. If this weren't hidden behind those illusionary flames, it would make for a horrific/terrific sight indeed.
 
[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
So do charms like this, which introduce the profound signature effect of one free activation:
I think you are misreading.
The first charm is kinda weak, but its a 2-dot charm.
It is supposed to have a relatively low-powered effect.

The same is not true of the second charm.
Or the 3-4 high dot charms that do something like this:
Where you take a glorious 1 bashing and potentially a dc mod if you're in a t-shirt instead of quite nearly the lowest grade of armor worth tracking or better. Some even have additional requirements like needing to be moving and/or strict distance limits regardless of essence rating too.

Infernal signatures tend towards the stupid.
They buried the lede on this.
I quote:
Signature Effect: When the Infernal dons her Shintai form, it comes into the world accompanied by a blinding, choking sandstorm. Anyone caught in the storm without sufficient protection (such as motorcycle leathers, a werewolf's thick fur, or some form of protective magic) suffers one level of bashing damage per minute, alongside a –2 penalty to all rolls.
That is a horrifyingly powerful effect whose main drawback is that it is indiscriminate.

A flat -2DC hit to literally every roll that everyone in range of the sandstorm makes is...yeah.
Instead of rolling soak at DC 6, you are now rolling at DC 8. If you make an attack, instead of attacking at DC6, you are attacking at DC8. Instead of rolling to detect enemies at DC6, you are doing so at DC8. If you are making Willpower rolls, you now have -2DC.

For reference, Blind is a -2DC debuff to your Perception rolls. Imagine that applied to everything.

The only drawback of this is that it hits everyone around you, friend, foe or bystander, equally.And you apparently dont have the ability to modify the target set, or exempt chosen categories of people from the impact.This is precisely the sort of thing I would point at when I say a 4 dot Signature effect is supposed to be a big deal, tactically and narratively.

Naked is too much but the base charm doesn't even make passives available, DP fixed that with a houserule. By RaW you let loose mortals with only what mental defenses they can learn by mortal means into the world with all your secrets. Natively it isn't a well designed ability.
Its a fan work, not a professionally edited and playtested manuscript.
There's deficiencies that we have to work around.Thats not new.
You can still tell what the intent is.

I was talking about black jade that was used to hold our Exaltation since the Age of Legends.

Exalted crafting is a very involved multistep process which likely will use multiple AP to implement. If we make our stuff using CCoP when at Craft 3 with no further bonuses, we'll need to redo it later. Better to delay and use the charm when we can use it to its full extent.
Black jade would have been crafted with either Exalted Craft or divine miracle.
Nothing currently suggests it would be workable with mortal artifice, especially not Path sorcery. We may or may not be able to roll enough successes to be able to do so, but thats not the default assumption.


Exalted Crafting is precisely as complicated as the QM wants it to be. No more and no less.
The only multistep thing here is the requirement for charging upper-tier Exalted artifice, circa 3-4 dots or higher, with Essence, preferably in a Dragons Nest after manufacture.

Its not like upper-tier Alchemy and Enchantment in the same range is supposed to be simple.


Mechanics
The rolls are too many to post but this... being is rolling 10 dice for melee and using the Flower of Death Celerity discipline to add 3 successes onto that . In addition to that it has 5 Dice with which to soak the Agg from your sword. Annoyingly the guards ignore 3 dots of your armor, though he does not seem to

PS: There is a hell of a storm here so if I go silent suddenly it's probably my power going out.
COMMENTARY
-Duke Skavis almost unleashed a rampant Walker in the middle of a major US metro area.
Thats....not the act of someone who expects to survive the process. I suspect Harry and at least some members of Cauldron can hear this down in the sewers; Im pretty sure Porter, Bob, and every major spirit or fae in the Chicago area, can as well.

More impetus for our plans to build warded shelters in Chicago.

-Flower of Death is a 7-dot Celerity power which is basically a full-blast scenelong Excellency:
Flower of Death
In combat, speed kills. A proper application of Celerity in combat can turn even the meekest Cainite into a walking abattoir. How much more deadly, then, is a vampire with the ability to utilize his preternatural speed to the utmost in combat? Flower of Death allows a vampire to take his Celerity and apply it in full to each hand-to-hand or melee attack he makes.

System: Flower of Death costs four blood points, but the spectacular effect is well worth it. Once the power is in effect, the vampire's bonus dice for Dexterity rolls get added to every dice pool for attack the character makes (even if the roll doesn't use Dexterity) until the end of the scene. Further, even if the Kindred uses some of his Celerity dots for extra actions during the scene, these extra dice are still available. The effect is limited to hand-to-hand or melee weapon attacks — firearms,bows, and other ranged weapons are excluded — but does grant the attacker additional dice for damage rolls.
Flower of Death is not cumulative — it is impossible to "layer" uses of the power over one another to create astronomical dice pools.
Dude is throwing at least 7-dice bonus to his 10-dice attack rolls.
Possibly up to 9 dice, if he is also rocking Celerity 9 in addition to Chimestry 9. None of that dice on his defence rolls though.
Still, the attack rolls come very close to Molly's throwing 9 dice on her 9-dice attack rolls.


-Im not sure what he can tell us that we cant use a Crown question to rip out of Duke Skavis' withered corpse.
But its worth noting that canonically Walkers can be compelled to tell the truth or answer a question, the same way that the Fae can, by asking three times.

Which is corroborating evidence of their kinship somewhere, or at least the requirement that they follow the same rules.

Besides, if he's being polite, there's no need to be rude just because we intend to slaughter his ass.
Mama Charity and Daddy Michael did instill manners in their girl, after all.
And courtesy costs nothing.

Sixfold faster than Molly? Isn't Molly already at a permanent 3x speed boost? What with his minions moving at half his speed, that means the Outsider is currently going at 18x normal human speed and his minions 9x. They must be moving like blurs at this point, and they're still losing to Molly. If this weren't hidden behind those illusionary flames, it would make for a horrific/terrific sight indeed.
We're both in the air.
I am reasonably sure at this point that most people in the venue at this point can see and hear us if they are looking in our direction, even if the illusionary flames are still burning on the ground. The Elders definitely can.

Anyone have a theory for how they are managing that?
They are wielding weapons made of Chimestry. Level 6 Chimestry can do shit like impose temporary debuffs and curses.
Kinda the sort of reason why Im suggesting better armor is a priority for both Molly and Lydia.
 
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I don't expect we'll learn anything from speaking to the Walker, nor that anything we say will affect it. The more we talk, the more bystanders hear shit that isn't any of their business.

[X] Nope, not listening to Eldritch Abominations, that is probably on the Evil Overlord List and if it isn't it should be, just kill it
Not necessarily true.

See Dresden's conversation with Nemesis-in-Justine at the end of Battlegrounds; you CAN get actionable information from Walkers. And if we're speaking Old Realm here and being replied to in turn, as seems certain(DIE doesnt have three syllables in any language I know) bystanders aint gonna hear shit.

Besides, again, see Molly's Urge. Twilights gonna Twilight.
 
Not necessarily true.

See Dresden's conversation with Nemesis-in-Justine at the end of Battlegrounds; you CAN get actionable information from Walkers. And if we're speaking Old Realm here and being replied to in turn, as seems certain(DIE doesnt have three syllables in any language I know) bystanders aint gonna hear shit.

Besides, again, see Molly's Urge. Twilights gonna Twilight.
Just being seen having a conversation with a Walker using a language no one else on Earth can identify is not the best look for us.
 
Just being seen having a conversation with a Walker using a language no one else on Earth can identify is not the best look for us.
We dont really care, though.
We dont answer to the White Court. The people who we do care about can ask and get answers if they want; the rest can go hang.
That Michael Carpenter: Mentor 5 Background really earns its keep in situations like this.

Besides, we're stabbing the Walker to death.
The fact that we can both speak a language noone else can is precisely the sort of thing you would expect from something that feels like an archdevil on vacation.
 
[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?
 
So, I'm assuming that Clippy is, indeed, running a constant recording of everything being said around us. This means that we should have at least two foci to use - the recoding, and (the pieces of) the body. We should probably use those to get context on "Empyrial Chaos" and "Prince of the Earth". If nothing else, learning about Theion should rouse some of Usum's memories. Damn, we desperately need one more focus, because "right chosen place" it wants to deliver our soul to is almost certainly goddamn important. We should probably use the damage to our armor / our wounds as the focus. We definitely need to ask questions. While pre-loading all our DC lowers and dice pool boosters to understand the answers.

Also, the mention of Empyrial Chaos is... troubling. If I understand correctly, the title belonged to Theion, not Malfeas. That this being refers to such implies it has memories / knowledge of such... Are we facing a (shadow of a shadow) of a subsoul of a neverborn?

[x] You are going to kill this thing, but if it's feeling chatty who are you to complain?
-[x] How long has it been since you last saw a Prince of the Earth?


Unless someone has a better question (maybe why does it respect us? Which gnats has it been destroying? Who are its masters?), I am ok to go with this.
 
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