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Springtime of Nations II: A European Republic Quest

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I don't really have anything against cars in principle. There's probably going to be areas that are just infeasible to service with trains or busses for whatever reason, and anyone living in them could certainly benefit from a personal vehicle to move themselves around, if only to the nearest public transport station for the rest of the journey. I imagine trucks will likely see a decent amount of use in urban areas too for moving bulky/heavy goods to their destination, anything that you couldn't reasonably expect someone to try to fit onboard a bus or light rail or is too heavy for people to reasonably carry on foot from the nearest station really.

I personally feel like the car problems really start when you start building stuff in a way that people feel that they need a car in order to thrive. That's when you start getting things like every household in your cities wanting their own car and parking spot(s) to keep it in, or even two if they feel like they're going to be spending enough time in separate locations to need another. As long as we keep our walkability/public transportation good enough for most of our population that they don't feel like they need a car, I think we should be fine.
 
I think we should not provide any overt recognition of Korean revolution just yet. Better bleed France as much possible covertly and when France willing to let go then act as mediator for benefit of koreans. We should not Antagonize France at all right now when we are readying ourselves to fight the League.

I think we should target African American and native American communities and provide them with Low interest Loans to uplift them and create a voter base for our American counterpart. In canon Republicans were able to create a foothold over them better not provide them with that chance.
 
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Both of the depressions so far have technically been the fault of American railroad speculators. As much as we love trains, they really need to not be corporate-run or you end up with shit like this.
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this is what happens when trains arent used to do train stuff like hauling goods and people but are instead used as an impetus for an increasingly elaborate real estate ponzi scheme

just use trains to annihilate time and space like god intended smdh
 
Is there a reason why no new members other than italy and spain not included in Alliance yet? Opening up Alliance to new members fully allow us to expand our reach towards Asia and south America.
 
Etranger said:
necessitating a shift in the legislature as thirty new seats are added to the already enormous total and triggering early movement toward a further expansion of the National Assembly complex within the Sub-Commission for Construction and the Frankfurt-Darmstadt district council.
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...Anyone want to do something about an increasingly unwieldy numbers of delegates? Only me?

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Would he serve to gain citisenship, or stop at residency, I wonder?
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Or maybe, just maybe, we can finally stop tying citizenship to national service?

The Laurent said:
--[] Establish communally operated and owned "libraries" of goods that do not need to be owned by individuals but can instead be shared to improve everyone's access to uncommon goods.
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Isn't durable goods libraries already a thing? Or are we trying to make a less centralised version?

I also think we should do something about environment. I recall Etranger said the situation was pretty bad on that front. While climate change is not something we have to concern yet, smog and polluted waters should be something people already start complaining. Maybe we can start implementing some sort of pollution standard?
 
Maybe investment on Ecology and Environmental studies along with other soft sciences like Social studies, Psychology, Sex Education. A centralized organization for History and archeology will get to fight against British Museum and imperialist history writing and Grave robbing.
 
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Maybe investment on Ecology and Environmental studies along with other soft sciences like Social studies, Psychology, Sex Education. A centralized organization for History and archeology will get to fight against British Museum and imperialist history writing and Grave robbing.
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We already have the sex education college and also an agricultural college afaik. Also the food security act (this turn) is doing ecology even if it doesn't say the word.
 
I am thinking something like this for Federation Party

[] Unification of German, Spanish and Italian intelligence apparatus under one umbrella.

[] Creation of socialist Historical council consists of various socialist and marxist historians and archeologists recruited from all over world to conduct research and invent proper methodologies. Council will combat imperialist Historians of League, French and British intellectual circle. It can act as tool to combat various racist, pseudoscientific theories and xenophobia though proper research and facts.
 
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The Election of 1895
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    • Which party will you support in the election of 1895?

    [] The Communist Party
    [ECON] State Direction
    [CHURCH] Atheism
    [DIPLO] Internationalism
    [MIL] Belligerent
    [GOVT] Centralization
    [PRO1] Industrial Workers
    [PRO2] Service Workers
    [PRO3] Career Soldiers
    [MISC] Women's rights, minority rights

    [] The Cooperative Party
    [ECON] Cooperativism
    [CHURCH] Secularism
    [DIPLO] Internationalism
    [MIL] Opportunist
    [GOVT] Localism
    [PRO1] Agricultural Workers
    [PRO2] Service Workers
    [PRO3] Educated Professionals
    [MISC] Anti-statist, anarchist ties

    [] The Federation Party
    [ECON] Cooperativism
    [CHURCH] Secularism
    [DIPLO] Internationalism
    [MIL] Belligerent
    [GOVT] Devolution
    [PRO1] Public Officials
    [PRO2] Career Soldiers
    [PRO3] Service Workers
    [MISC] National Personal Autonomy Principle, World Republic

    [] The Radical Party
    [ECON] Yeomanry
    [CHURCH] Secularism
    [DIPLO] Cooperation
    [MIL] Belligerent
    [GOVT] Centralization
    [PRO1] Manual Laborers
    [PRO2] Agricultural Workers
    [PRO3] Educated Professionals
    [MISC] Anti-monarchist, pro-conscript


    Economic Stance
    This is your party's stance on the preferred method for venture operations. All methods include revenue sharing and worker management. "State Direction" advocates for centralized sectors with government-directed planning. "Cooperativism" advocates for an economy run by mid-sized cooperatives working independently. "Yeomanry" advocates for an economy made up of small single-family or individual ventures.

    [] [ECON] State Direction
    [] [ECON] Cooperativism
    [] [ECON] Yeomanry

    Religious Stance
    This is your party's stance on religious affairs. "Atheism" indicates a government that actively excludes religious organizations and movements from public life. "Secularism" indicates a government that does not integrate religious organizations into its operations but also does not interfere with their operation. "Pluralism" indicates a government that explicitly tolerates multiple religions and attempts to incorporate them into government business.

    [] [CHURCH] Atheism
    [] [CHURCH] Secularism
    [] [CHURCH] Pluralism

    Diplomatic Stance
    This is your party's stance on the world order. "Internationalism" advocates for the eventual abolition of national boundaries and the formation of a single global community. "Cooperation" advocates for a union or alliance of nations working together diplomatically. "Nationalism" advocates for pursuing national interests over other concerns.

    [] [DIPLO] Internationalism
    [] [DIPLO] Cooperation
    [] [DIPLO] Nationalism

    Military Stance
    This is your party's stance on how the military's deployment and posture. "Belligerent" indicates actively seeking conflict with ideological and national opponents in pursuit of achieving military victory over them. "Opportunist" indicates a flexible approach in which opponents are alternately engaged with and opposed to achieve maximum possible gain. "Defensive" indicates a non-confrontational approach and a focus on defending existing gains rather than expanding outward.

    [] [MIL] Belligerent
    [] [MIL] Opportunist
    [] [MIL] Defensive

    Government Stance
    This is your party's stance on how best to exercise government authority. "Centralization" advocates for power to be wielded by a strong central government capable of overriding localities. "Devolution" advocates for a middle ground in which the central government reserves powers to itself but grants localities the ability to self-govern. "Localism" advocates for localities to have explicit and reserved powers in their own right.

    [] [GOVT] Centralization
    [] [GOVT] Devolution
    [] [GOVT] Localism

    Professional Groups
    There are seven broad categories of German citizen listed below. In order of preference, pick the three to whom your party caters most specifically.

    [] [PRO1] ???
    [] [PRO2] ???
    [] [PRO3] ???

    Agricultural Workers
    Farmers and rural workers.

    Career Soldiers
    Full-time military personnel, enlisted or officers.

    Educated Professionals
    Intellectuals, lawyers, scientists.

    Industrial Workers
    Factory workers and skilled artisans.

    Manual Laborers
    Infrastructure workers and vehicle operators.

    Public Officials
    Bureaucrats, politicians, and other government workers.

    Service Workers
    Doctors, nurses, teachers, caretakers.

    There will be a 24-hour moratorium. Please vote by plan, with a maximum of SIX planks, representing the proposed manifesto for your faction. Each plank should be at most two concise sentences. For my ease of understanding and everyone else's, please ensure that your plan has a name that is completely distinctive from all the others, especially if it iterates off another plan.

    Please be sure to rank your manifesto planks in order of importance. The most-important plank should be at the top and the least-important at the bottom. This will assist me in coalition-building.

    When assembling a coalition manifesto, party planks which are considered "harmonious" with each other may be merged, while planks which are considered "opposed" to each other may be nullified. The party with the largest share of the vote will see most or all of its non-opposed planks enacted, while those with lesser vote shares may only be able to enact their top-most planks. Even those parties not included in the governing coalition may have the opportunity to see their top-most priority enacted.

    Below is an example plan. Please do not vote for it.

    [] The Hyper-Revanchist Party
    -[] Vienna by Christmas
    --[] Invade France.
    --[] Annex the Netherlands.
    --[] Send arms to Poland.
    --[] Enlist every man, woman, and child into the army.
    --[] Pass out jaunty hats to raise national morale.
    --[] Make defeatism a capital offense.
     
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    • Nevis said:
    It's literally just voting rights, everything else, all the support, etc etc you literally just sign up for no questions asked. That's a better deal than many places today, I think! Especially considering you don't have to do your years in the military.
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    As long as it doesn't require you being a soldier, yeah, it's fine. It's actually a pretty good deal if you get to Germany and have no idea how to integrate yourself in our collective society. By the time you leave service, you'll have picked up enough about how it works to get by.
     
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    ...Anyone want to do something about an increasingly unwieldy numbers of delegates? Only me?
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    Large numbers of delegates are good, inasmuch as the Assembly is a working (i.e., executive) not merely parliamentary body, and as such needs enough members to staff its Commissions. Reducing the Assembly to a purely parliamentary body and creating a separate bureaucracy would be a return to the system of the First Republic, and that would be unacceptable.

    SouvikKundu said:
    I think we should not provide any overt recognition of Korean revolution just yet. Better bleed France as much possible covertly and when France willing to let go then act as mediator for benefit of koreans. We should not Antagonize France at all right now when we are readying ourselves to fight the League.
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    To this I would answer simply "Poland."

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    Now that the usual moratorium's begun, reposting the CP plan from yesterday:

    [] Communist Party
    -[] Plan: The Communist Party Unity Program of 1895
    --[] Further build out electrical and communications infrastructure under state ownership in accordance with a central plan incorporating local input, while improving the productivity of state and cooperative mines and fabricators to support the build-out.
    --[] Offer the United States support to recover from and reform in the aftermath of its depression: low-interest loans from the International Development Bank to the states, and no-interest loans to the federal government; buyouts of failing business by German cooperatives offering American workers equal shares in the amalgamated firms allowing them to maintain their jobs; and model legislation on railway nationalization.
    --[] Continue funding the military infrastructure and fortification program. In this stage emphasis should be on expanding and fortifying logistical nodes and axes of movement supporting third-line and interior positions.
    --[] Embark on a renewed program of naval expansion, aiming at command of the Baltic Sea by matching or exceeding the tonnage of the combined Russian Baltic, and Scandinavian, fleets.
    --[] Recognize the Jeonju government as the government of Korea with sovereign authority to maintain, repudiate, or renegotiate its international obligations; and invite such elements of its leadership as accept the International Revolutionary Association's membership criteria to apply to that body for affiliation, with attendant benefits.
    --[] Support efforts to raise socialist and republican consciousness and capabilities, particularly in the Russian Empire and Scandinavia. Special emphasis is to be given toward mobilizing groups who are structurally oppressed (e.g. women, national and religious minorities, impoverished laborers).
     
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    Large numbers of delegates are good, inasmuch as the Assembly is a working (i.e., executive) not merely parliamentary body, and as such needs enough members to staff its Commissions. Reducing the Assembly to a purely parliamentary body and creating a separate bureaucracy would be a return to the system of the First Republic, and that would be unacceptable.
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    One issue I can see is that the way delegates answer to the voters is not necessarily in line with the job they do as part of the executive. Not sure it's ideal with the recall situation. It probably makes it a bit hard to recall a delegate who is negatively impacting as part of his role in a commission rather than as his role as your representative. I guess you would have to work through your own representative to have him removed from his commission position, but that feels unwieldy, and you might not get enough other representatives sharing the same concern about him if your issue is local.

    Not sure exactly how to fix it though. Ideally we'd try to aim for commission spots having impact on some areas to be staffed by representatives from those same areas, but that can be at odds with picking people who already have competency for the job.
     
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    [] Cooperative Party
    -[] Plan ???
    --[] Build up our telecommunications network to reach every local town hall, planning office and production sites. Leverage those new communications to enable more participative planning, both for identifying demand and fulfilling it. Alongside side this start planing an beginning stages of a large expansion of the rural transportation network.
    --[] Establish communally operated and owned "libraries" of goods that do not need to be owned by individuals but can instead be shared to improve everyone's access to uncommon goods.
    --[] Increase the secret provision of funding, arms and ideological support to the rebels in Korea, using pre-existing channels and with an emphasis on keeping the revolt anti-monarchist and truly revolutionary. Cooperate with Chinese and Japanese covert efforts if they exist to the extent it doesn't undermine revolutionary ideals. Also work to to provide funding, arms and ideological support to anti monarchist and revolutionary groups within Japan and China.
    --[] Ultimately if one merely breaks up hierarchies between institutions but leaves them within them, the job is not even half done. Begin pilot programs experimenting with less hierarchical organization within school, and with alternate means of teaching than the more traditional rote learning so common even in good schools.
    --[] Set up cooperation between farmers, biology researchers and tooling engineers to continually improve on agriculture, fishing land management. Aim to produce long term planning for sustainability and preservation of nature alongside production. Work with the local councils of riverine and coastal communities to better understand and conserve our fish stocks. Also work toward improve the quality of food in general and army rations.
    --[] Help cooperatives draft war footing plans to prepare them for a change in economic priorities if conflict arises and to maximize their contribution in wartime.

    @Nevis @The Laurent @Nyvis tried to combine the 2 plans here what I came up with thoughts?
     
    Trying to touch the relationship of service to citizenship? That's insane.
     
    Woltaire said:
    --[] Build up our telecommunications network to reach every local town hall, planning office and production sites. Leverage those new communications to enable more participative planning, both for identifying demand and fulfilling it. Alongside side this start planing an beginning stages of a large expansion of the rural transportation network.
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    We already pushed local rail branches, I think this is unnecessary.

    Woltaire said:
    --[] Increase the secret provision of funding, arms and ideological support to the rebels in Korea, using pre-existing channels and with an emphasis on keeping the revolt anti-monarchist and truly revolutionary. Cooperate with Chinese and Japanese covert efforts if they exist to the extent it doesn't undermine revolutionary ideals. Also work to to provide funding, arms and ideological support to anti monarchist and revolutionary groups within Japan and China.
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    I don't want to open too many fronts at a time. Korea is the opportunity of the moment, I don't want to stretch our support thin when they really need the help right now to not die and the two others aren't as urgent.

    Woltaire said:
    --[] Ultimately if one merely breaks up hierarchies between institutions but leaves them within them, the job is not even half done. Begin pilot programs experimenting with less hierarchical organization within school, and with alternate means of teaching than the more traditional rote learning so common even in good schools.
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    Typo corrected. This isn't my plank writing but it's small enough I'll align with you.

    Woltaire said:
    --[] Set up cooperation between farmers, biology researchers and tooling engineers to continually improve on agriculture, fishing land management. Aim to produce long term planning for sustainability and preservation of nature alongside production. Work with the local councils of riverine and coastal communities to better understand and conserve our fish stocks. Also work toward improve the quality of food in general and army rations.
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    This makes it sound like the only land management we do is fishing. Maybe "fishing and land management"? The two sentences you added just violate the plank length rule though, so I think we can just add fishing to the text? I'll do that in my own plan.

    7th Hex said:
    I don't really have anything against cars in principle. There's probably going to be areas that are just infeasible to service with trains or busses for whatever reason, and anyone living in them could certainly benefit from a personal vehicle to move themselves around, if only to the nearest public transport station for the rest of the journey. I imagine trucks will likely see a decent amount of use in urban areas too for moving bulky/heavy goods to their destination, anything that you couldn't reasonably expect someone to try to fit onboard a bus or light rail or is too heavy for people to reasonably carry on foot from the nearest station really.

    I personally feel like the car problems really start when you start building stuff in a way that people feel that they need a car in order to thrive. That's when you start getting things like every household in your cities wanting their own car and parking spot(s) to keep it in, or even two if they feel like they're going to be spending enough time in separate locations to need another. As long as we keep our walkability/public transportation good enough for most of our population that they don't feel like they need a car, I think we should be fine.
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    There's no reason we can't have smaller buses and communal minivans for areas where a normal sized bus is too much, or even a village car. Cars don't have to be individually owned unless everyone is commuting in them, which we'll work to avoid. Farming communities and rural ones in general will probably enjoy smaller combustion vehicles though, that's definitely true.
     
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    Stats Comparison 1895 to 1893

    Format is Current vs. Past

    Demographics
    61.05 million people vs. 58.69 million people
    47.62 million eligible voters vs. 44.18 million eligible voters.
    78% eligible voters vs. 75% eligible voters (this number is growing again!)
    1.9% pop growth vs. 2.1% pop growth

    Social Reforms
    Social reforms have been split between ongoing programs and reforms in progress

    In the new reforms in progress category, we have labor recognition at medium, labor vouchers at low, and national autonomy at low. All are improving.

    Foreign Affairs
    Foreign affairs now has a section for diplomatic relations and external relations (the relationships between other countries)

    We are at ideal with our alliance partners, high and growing with the US, adequate with Britain and France, and low with Austria and Russia. Presumably the same extends to the other members of our respective blocs.

    External relations are low and improving between the US-Britain and between China-Japan, and low and worsening between both China and Japan on one hand and France on the other.


    War

    The Landwehr has been split into the professional army and the conscript reserve.

    The professional army is identical to the Landwehr stats from before. The conscript reserve is at Adequate training, Large quantity (improving), Adequate equipment (improving), and High Morale.

    The Marinewehr quantity is now at Medium and has stopped improving.

    Infrastructure now covers arsenals and shipyards. Arsenals are at High in quality and quantity, shipyards have adequate quality but high quantity.

    Interior


    Finance

    The credit ratio is High but has stopped improving.

    In Principal Debtors, the US and Other have both jumped up to Medium.

    Commerce

    Economic Growth is now decreasing.

    Commercial Output has dropped to High.

    Commercial Growth has dropped to Medium and are decreasing.

    Trade Volume with America has dropped to Medium.

    Public Works


    Education
     
    notbirdofprey said:
    Stats Comparison 1895 to 1893

    Format is Current vs. Past

    Demographics
    61.05 million people vs. 58.69 million people
    47.62 million eligible voters vs. 44.18 million eligible voters.
    78% eligible voters vs. 75% eligible voters (this number is growing again!)
    1.9% pop growth vs. 2.1% pop growth

    Social Reforms
    Social reforms have been split between ongoing programs and reforms in progress

    In the new reforms in progress category, we have labor recognition at medium, labor vouchers at low, and national autonomy at low. All are improving.

    Foreign Affairs
    Foreign affairs now has a section for diplomatic relations and external relations (the relationships between other countries)

    We are at ideal with our alliance partners, high and growing with the US, adequate with Britain and France, and low with Austria and Russia. Presumably the same extends to the other members of our respective blocs.

    External relations are low and improving between the US-Britain and between China-Japan, and low and worsening between both China and Japan on one hand and France on the other.


    War

    The Landwehr has been split into the professional army and the conscript reserve.

    The professional army is identical to the Landwehr stats from before. The conscript reserve is at Adequate training, Large quantity (improving), Adequate equipment (improving), and High Morale.

    The Marinewehr quantity is now at Medium and has stopped improving.

    Infrastructure now covers arsenals and shipyards. Arsenals are at High in quality and quantity, shipyards have adequate quality but high quantity.

    Interior


    Finance

    The credit ratio is High but has stopped improving.

    In Principal Debtors, the US and Other have both jumped up to Medium.

    Commerce

    Economic Growth is now decreasing.

    Commercial Output has dropped to High.

    Commercial Growth has dropped to Medium and are decreasing.

    Trade Volume with America has dropped to Medium.

    Public Works


    Education
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    Would you be open to making graphs over time :V

    If not I'll probably plug in excel myself at some point.
     
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