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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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I would like to propose a name for the concept of using AV to create a liminal realm. It's not very amazing, but I think it's descriptive.

"Aetheric Mirror"

It creates a liminal realm that mirrors the surrounding area, and if my theories are correct, it may be related to the mirror dimension thing that the Asp does. I would call the actual realm the Mirror Dimension just to keep up the theme.
 
So when we talked to the random witch hunter and we said we could succeed where the last Haupt-Anderssen failed, was he implying that the witch hunters knew we had the libre mortis?
 
Loltop said:
So when we talked to the random witch hunter and we said we could succeed where the last Haupt-Anderssen failed, was he implying that the witch hunters knew we had the libre mortis?
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No?

IIRC he was responding to us asking him about details of Alberich's potential ritual, which he side eyed and went "Um, no?". We then clarified we didn't want to know about the actual ritual but something far less sketchy.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
@Boney so quick question.

with Morbs and Liminal realms and repeatable proof that the mainstream Sevirric origin theory needs to go into the bin on the horizon...

have we officially entered the realm of 'dog breaking into the lecture hall in the tower of hoth and then solving Poincaré conjecture on the blackboard.' level of magic study?
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Once you actually have demonstrable results, sure.

Codex said:
More seriously, when Mathilde is referring to "every dimension", does she refer to this within the context of the axises of reality (second, third, fourth dimension) or within the concept of dimensions in the other sense. I don't really know Mathilde's geometry and physics knowledge.
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She meant spatial dimensions here. I've tweaked it to be a bit clearer.

Codex said:
I want everyone to remember where Vitae comes from. An apparition. But not just any apparition, it comes from a Wisdom's Asp, a snake that seemingly teleports between reflective surfaces yet is still capable of interacting with the real world. I noticed while reading that the descriptions of AV "slithering" into the barriers between reality sounded oddly snake-like, but then I thought about it.

We're using the make-up of a mystical snake whose entire schtick is to move between liminal realms. How have we not considered its influence.
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Though Mathilde has not been able to test it directly, everything so far indicates that Vitae produced by the asp is identical to Vitae produced by any other method. It having some sort of memory that imbues various properties would itself be an intriguing discovery.

Codex said:
The third thing I noticed is that Mathilde knows that sound is vibrating air. I didn't know she knew about molecules.
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Knowledge of molecules isn't necessary. Knowing that sound is vibrating air goes all the way back to Aristotle.

Codex said:
It does make me wonder if Boney could have come up with a justification for Khorne pulling Vlag into the Warp.
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Recruitment, perhaps? Bloodthirsters kitted out with runic armour and weapons is a scary thought.
 
Codex said:
I would like to propose a name for the concept of using AV to create a liminal realm. It's not very amazing, but I think it's descriptive.

"Aetheric Mirror"

It creates a liminal realm that mirrors the surrounding area, and if my theories are correct, it may be related to the mirror dimension thing that the Asp does. I would call the actual realm the Mirror Dimension just to keep up the theme.
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I like it, but I counter with:

'Aetheric Manor'/ or 'The Mirror Manor'
 
Codex said:
I would like to propose a name for the concept of using AV to create a liminal realm. It's not very amazing, but I think it's descriptive.

"Aetheric Mirror"

It creates a liminal realm that mirrors the surrounding area, and if my theories are correct, it may be related to the mirror dimension thing that the Asp does. I would call the actual realm the Mirror Dimension just to keep up the theme.
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Wouldn't we need AV from another source before we can conclude that the mirroring reality aspect comes from the nature of the Asp though?
 
Boney said:
Though Mathilde has not been able to test it directly, everything so far indicates that Vitae produced by the asp is identical to Vitae produced by any other method. It having some sort of memory that imbues various properties would itself be an intriguing discovery.
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I now have a vision of a row of various Apparition torture devices to produce various flavours of AV to do comparative assays on
 
Codex said:
Also, my memory may be spotty, because I'm trying to recall which exact incident he means by "delivered it unto another". Is he referring to Mathilde telling Horstmann that the two will keep each other and everyone else in check? The first thought was our lecture to Panoramia, but that was relating to miscasts, not responding to possible black magisters.
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Pretty sure this was us murdering the noblewoman in Altdorf for being part of the same conspiracy we were.
 
DragonParadox said:
I do not think we would need anything exotic. After all we would not be looking for quantity, just quality that we can test. So for instance find a darkhound and stab it to collect blood.
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Without knowing the attributes which can vary between types of AB, it's hard.

There's also bullshit like it being possible for AV to have weak preferences inherent to its source but can be overridden by the expectations of the person working with it. So now we've worked with the Asp's AV other forms of AV will behave the same, but hopefully we can discount.
 
Alratan said:
Thirteenth Everchosen or Nagash V2.0, this time with a decent hat.

You can see why she isn't that interested in the offer. Even Nagash V1 has a much better track record of known success (and hat) than every prior Everchosen put together.

The daemon didn't even bother to tempt her with the forbidden Sorcerous knowledge of the god of sorcery. After all, she's too busy to get around to reading the forbidden lore she already has.
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I mean really? He killed one nation got bonked by a barbarian in furs and after his return prior to end times was less effective then Belakor.
And while he created a new school, people after him made more interesting and better spells.
Most of the everchosen, can add nation killer to their list
 
Scia said:
I mean really? He killed one nation got bonked by a barbarian in furs and after his return prior to end times was less effective then Belakor.
And while he created a new school, people after him made more interesting and better spells.
Most of the everchosen, can add nation killer to their list
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Didn't he also kill the gods of Nehekhara?
 
Once the AV book is published the different Orders could try harvesting apparitions that are haunting their wizards for AV, and if there's a difference between different AV sources it will probably be noticed sooner or later. Probably later, because without Mathilde's Mirrocatch Box getting sufficient quantities of AV for experimentation is going to take a while.
It's also going to be kind of tricky to bleed the apparitions in an environment where their blood won't immediately boil into the winds. Maybe the Gold College could bind some Dark Hounds so they could slay them in a controlled environment, but then the Chamon coating is going to react with the AV...maybe get them into a neutral area, remove the binding and kill them immediately?
 
Scia said:
I mean really? He killed one nation got bonked by a barbarian in furs and after his return prior to end times was less effective then Belakor.
And while he created a new school, people after him made more interesting and better spells.
Most of the everchosen, can add nation killer to their list
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No they can't. We actually have no evidence that any Everchosen has ever suceeded in killing a nation.
 
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