So need more Great Deeds to become a Baroness first, got it!
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Being a magister-wizard also gives one the same rights as the low nobility, so the actual knighthood is just a formality.
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There is one limiting factor to that which I'm not sure has been mentioned:
It says "while in the employ of the Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire". What, exactly, does this entail, is a question that has to be asked. It seems that if you're not in the employ of one of the Electors, of which there are only 15 and they're some of the highest authorities, you technically aren't privy to this Article.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would treat Lady Magister Mathilde in a manner not befitting that of a Noble, but I question the possibility that this Article isn't as great as it first sounds.
@Boney If Eike becomes our apprentice, will she learn about the Skaven, Queekish, and Qrech automatically, or will that be a decision we have to make, or is it one of those "need to know" things and she might never learn of it if she never encounters it?
Arguably, everyone in the Empire is employed by an Elector because it's a feudal system. Wilhemine might not be on Roswita's council, but she's still in the employ of Stirland, and by extension, its Elector, because the EIC's charter draws its rights and responsibilities from the Elector.
This does lead to some odd cases—for example, being in the employ of a Cult that doesn't report to an Elector, but even they can (very carefully) be argued to be subservient to the Emperor.
Arguably, everyone in the Empire is employed by an Elector because it's a feudal system. Wilhemine might not be on Roswita's council, but she's still in the employ of Stirland, and by extension, its Elector, because the EIC's charter draws its rights and responsibilities from the Elector.
This does lead to some odd cases—for example, being in the employ of a Cult that doesn't report to an Elector, but even they can (very carefully) be argued to be subservient to the Emperor.
Mathilde would read her in, because she'll have the same information triggers that Mathilde had, and it wouldn't take long in Karag Nar for some overheard conversation to trip the Skaven one.
Certainly lives up to his title. Being eager to engage with theoretical debate and expound on his own knowledge.
Critically he seems perfectly willing to accept Mathilde as a peer. A junior one perhaps, but still someone working in the same field who's thoughts and opinions are worth considering. We could have done far worse in an elf mage.
I wonder if Isthien knows how close he came to alienating Mathilde?
On I shall have to remember that one.
Actionable into there. Laylines need to be one-directional. Might be a way around that with double tracking but if not then we are going to need everywhere to have multiple connections.
Not great for completing the Project perhaps, but a lack of internal friction remains a godsend.
"The first obedience of every Magister must be to the ideals and laws of Sigmar's Holy Empire of which these Articles form a part"
Someone is playing very fast and loose with those laws it seems.
Not that Mathilde would be one to talk.
…masterfully done.
This reframes the question from "take her or abandon her to fate" to "take her yourself or put her in the care of one of the Order's best". Turning a nearly sure thing into a genuine choice.
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The Article does not define Employment. It just says in the Employ. You could maybe make a justification that "everyone is employed by an Elector in one way or another", but that requires that the definition of Employ within the context of the legal document to be favorable towards your desire. There's a difference between chain of employment and direct employ, and one could argue that if you don't have a contract signed with an Elector indicating that they've personally employed you then the Article doesn't apply. It requires clarification.
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Actually had to google what this abbreviation stood for. My first guess was one of the names of god from the Talmud.
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Why, soul-stuff is a perfectly cromulent word. I'm sure there's a stuffy, long and formal name for whatever makes up the soul and the interface between it and the rest of the aethyr, but I guess using it outside of scholarly works would be like using "synchronous diaphragmatic flutter" instead of "hiccups".
Well, another reading of the Article is that if you are an Elector, any wizard you employ must have these privileges, and if you are not an Elector who is trying to employ a wizard, you are not obligated, but you do have to up your game to match it because Article 12 gives wizards the freedom to choose their employer, with the exception of the military (Article 9), the Emperor (Article 10) or against the forces of Chaos (Article 15). If you were a wizard, who would you pick to work for—the guy who is obligated to treat you like a noble, or someone who isn't. Sure, you might not always have that specific option, but you do have the option to leave and find someone who's going to pay you more, and Article 12 sets a soft "minimum wage" that you can haggle with.
"Give me the privileges in Article 11."
"I'm not obligated to give you those."
"Then I'm not obligated to work with you. Good day."
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That just sounds like standard contract negotiations. Getting into a battle of legaliese with a noble is a ballsy move, but I guess you can attempt it. I certainly had a personal idea for a Legal Advisor Magister character that I've been trying to fit into an Omake. Seminars about how to assert your rights as a Magister and how to navigate the complex web of laws in the Empire sounds fascinating until you think of the actual nitty-gritty behind it. Listening to lawyers explaining their jobs is a mind numbingly dull experience. No wonder people just click on contract binding agreements without reading the fine print so often.
The obvious choice, the one we informally planned on.
Wilhelmine's reasoning is clear: A Wizard looking to inherit a trade empire is a very important piece for managing the Empire's economic stability.
Also it would certainly make Wilhelmina happy. Few better to teach her granddaughter money magic than the Grey Bursar.
… at a guess I would say he want her for her talent with intrigue. The Grey Porter is the poor sod tasked with knowing everything about a bunch of paranoid, secretive, compulsively dramatic conmen. His job is not easy and finding his eventual replacement is important.
That said, he is a Sigmar suprematist and the option we have had the least contact with.
While not a bad choice by any means I feel this is the worst choice of the options presented.
Regimand doesn't want this, but would do it as a favour to Mathilde. He could in theory teach her intrigue and economics… although given Mathilde's stats at quest start I question if he actually would.
Ultimately I'm going to vote for [] You because the thing Eike wants is Learning. And if Mathilde can be said to have a specialisation it is learning. She has travelled to many distant places. Encountered many different types of magic used by many different people. She has examined strange artefacts, invented spells, taken part in multi-discipline mega projects. She owns a library and leads a branch college.
If little Eike want to unravel the mysteries of the world then Mathilde is the one to show her the path.
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Starke can go do improbable acts with a Cactus, Wilhelmine will have to fistfight us for Eike, and Regimand... I could maybe be convinced, but let the secret agent retire.
Starke can go do improbable acts with a Cactus, Wilhelmine will have to fistfight us for Eike, and Regimand... I could maybe be convinced, but let the secret agent retire.
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By the way, since we just met the Dean, we have officially met all but the Librarian of the primary Magisterial Council of the Grey College:
Archivist, Docent, Editor-in-Chief and Senior Fellow are still unknown, but they're further down the command chain.Here's a significantly improved version of the Grey College org chart, with my thanks to @BoneyM for his insights.
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Will catch up later, just getting this out there.
Will catch up later, just getting this out there.
There's also the Hands, but I suspect that Regimand is a Hand, and from a certain point of view I suppose we're an "unofficial" Hand.
We are more of a armored fist that has a rocket as propulsion.
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I think @Boney is trying to tell us something here. Or maybe his subconscious does.
She does. It come in unlimited access to ever expanding amount of BOOK.
Speaking of Cython, a topuc of Ulgu dragons comes up with some regularity. Can't we just ask Cython about them? Maybe not perfect, but it would be a start.
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