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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Andres said:
I want to make a muffle spell that deletes sound in an area so we can enchant an item with it and stick it in the gyrocarriage. Good for stealth missions, but more importantly it makes for a way more pleasant ride.
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pucflek said:
Is that a good idea? I imagine the motor sounding weird would be one of the ways to identify potential incoming problem.
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Maybe have multiple spells/runes? Keep the passenger area quiet, and a sound shield in a bubble around the copter?

Also I had an amazing idea. Kidnaps someone with a bag over their head, they get in the muted gyrocarriage, from all they can tell they are in a normal carriage/cart. Good way to confuse them!
Andres said:
Aqshy rocket boosters.
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YES PLEASE!
 
Boney said:
You'd gone back to your promotion to Lady Magister, which is certainly a pleasant memory but also your formal introduction to the pocket dimension that the Grey College is entirely ensconced within, which also provides the mechanism for some of the more esoteric spells of Ulgu. Substance of Shadow is the one you know, and somewhere along the way of trying to mentally examine the spell itself for how it might link in to that border plane, some of the syllables of that spell slipped into Mockery of Death.
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"Paper," you say, and Max only hesitates for a second before fishing a notepad out of his pockets and passing it to you with a quill. With haste you jot down the shorthand for the syllabic jumble you'd inadvertently said before it drifts from your mind completely, and take a number of notes on the part where you'd inadvertently blended two syllables together in a way that didn't really translate to letters.
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I think codification of this spell would be pretty easy. It doesn't seem like it's the same incantation but different stuff happens like with Shadowrider. It's a specific and different incantation, and it's something Mathilde's written down. She also knows the mind state and memories she was going through when casting for the first time. I think that's most of the work done for codification right there.
 
pucflek said:
Is that a good idea? I imagine the motor sounding weird would be one of the ways to identify potential incoming problem.
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Well... in that case, technically hearing the motor at all would immediately identify a potential problem. :p

Less glibly, a pilot might still be able to identify problems by feeling the gyrocarriage engine's vibrations through the frame. Normally I'd expect sound-cancelling to mute those as well, but WHF magic seems very forgiving with that kind of thing. I don't think most people would really think of vibration as sound, so magic affecting one might not affect the other.
 
[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP
-[X] One Overwork Action
-[X] COIN: The Father
-[X] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[X] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
-[X] Attempt to bring a non-Order magical tradition into the Waystone Project (Nordlander Haléthan Hedgewise)
-[X] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[X] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[X] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[X] EIC: Have the Hochlander set up a shadow headquarters for the EIC in the Sunken Palace.
-[X] KAU: Decide who your library staff will consist of, and go about recruiting them.
-[X] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
 
Alratan said:
I don't think anyone here has learned more than one of them, so there is no one who can do any direct translation from one arcane language to even one other. That means that we probably need to translate everything into mundane languages, probably Reikspeil, which doesn't have the vocabulary or grammar that you want to talk about magic.
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Either Elrisse or Tochter might know Anoqueyan (spelling?) i we're lucky.
Andres said:
It's dwarf craft. We can trust in its reliability. Only time we really need it turned off is if we add some Aqshy rocket boosters.
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It's still a helicopter built without magic. I can believe that it is built to near modern standards, but if it somehow doesn't need maintenance and attention by the pilot that would get close to SoD breaking.
 
Mopman43 said:
Do we have any evidence that they're in tight enough with Elves to have gotten tutoring in that by an Arch-Mage or similar?

Because I don't think there's any other way someone could realistically learn Anoqueyan.
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Only example I personally know of regarding a human learning Anoqeyan is Markus Fischer, Lord Magister of the Grey College, from page 69 of Shades of Empire, who has "Arcane Elf +10%" as part of his "Speak Magical Languages" skill.

He is also present in Tome of Salvation page 20 in the "Shadow Blade" section, telling the myth of how Verena (Hoeth) captured Ulgu and fought against the forces of Chaos to release Asuryan etc. etc.

"This myth is not known to the cults, for it comes from the Asur, whom I have had the fortune of discussing these matters with."

So yeah, he must have gotten in good with them. That being said, he's not even part of the Colleges yet, perhaps not even born yet.
 
Boney said:
With the possible exception of inside the White Tower of Hoeth, Anoqeyan isn't a living language and isn't taught as one. You might learn fragments from various esoteric topics that use it out of necessity or tradition, but you're very unlikely to ever be able to hold a conversation in it from teachings received in the Old World.
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Based on this, I think odds that any Old Worlf humans might know Anoqeyan are vanishingly low. We don't know enough about Eonir magical traditions to know if they use it as a magical language the way Asur do, but circumstances have aligned such that we are sure to find out soon.

(Tangentially, I tell you, reader, that I let out the biggest groan a few years back when I realized Anoqeyan was just a Warhammerized spelling of "Enochian", the real-world esoteric "language" which is purportedly the native tongue of angels, named after Enoch, the descendant of Adam who Genesis said didn't die but "walked with God, and God took him" and who various Jewish and Christian mystical traditions claim was transformed into the archangel Metatron.)
 
I mixed up things. I thought I remembered reading that Anoqueyan is a thing we can possibly learn at the Colleges while what I probably read was that it isn't.
 
As far as I am aware, the grey college is the only college that teaches Eltharin as a default course, and that's only because several of their ciphers depend upon it. The other colleges probably offer it as an elective, not as a core course. Nothing has been said about Anoqueyan, so I assume it's a magical secret not commonly known within the colleges.
 
We may have to learn it for the waystone project, yeah that is the justification will use. We have talked about learning it and the dawi equivalent.
 
Mopman43 said:
Shades of Empire states Markus Fischer was taken to the Colleges "2 decades ago" in the early 2500s (he was a Hedgewise).
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He was seventeen when he was taken, so he's actually about 37 years old in canon. Basically a canon Mathilde equivalent considering how young an LM he was.

He's most likely a child/toddler right now.
 
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