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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Ice Witches
[X] Tsarevich Boris Bokha
 
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DragonParadox said:
OK so do we are going to tell the boyar 'old baba over there told me there would be trouble I had to run roughshod over your autonomy'? Because I do not think they will be very impressed.
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Boris knows that we pulled an entire dwarfhold from the realm of Chaos, he considers us an expert on the matter. The local Boyar would probably only know as much as the Ice Witches tell him.

If we approach with a letter signed by Boris, saying he heard about trouble that is about to escalate (because Mathilde said so, and she's the expert) and is sending an expert as support, that's completely different then approaching the locals with tales of doom in the forest. It might even be a point of contention between the Witches and the Boyar, for example, the Boyar not believing that the threat is as big as the Witches say, and a foreign spellcaster changes little. Alternatively, the Witches might be trying to squeeze as much as they can from the Boyar in exchange for their help. However, with support from Boris, we'd be sidestepping their local issues. They would all have to play ball because the boss said so.
DragonParadox said:
It is it s secret it will be a secret no matter when we want to visit. I do not think Boris can make the ice witches give up magical secrets at the drop of a hat, though he might be able to do it with weeks or months of prep work.
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Boris knows that there's a rock in his cellar that glows white during blizzards. This means that he can get access to said rock. Further, the fact that he didn't know that the rock is connected to the Ice Witches means that he can likely get access to it without Witch supervision. Therefore, he could likely grant us access to it without Witch supervision. This might no longer be the case when an Ice Witch is empress. So, better seize that chance now.
 
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Boris knows that there's a rock in his cellar that glows white during blizzards. This means that he can get access to said rock. Further, the fact that he didn't know that the rock is connected to the Ice Witches means that he can likely get access to it without Witch supervision. Therefore, he could likely grant us access to it without Witch supervision. This might no longer be the case when an Ice Witch is empress. So, better seize that chance now.
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Just because he can get access does not mean he is allowed to bring foreign magicians with him, in fact it seems likely he was only allowed to see it in their company.

Lampshade said:
Boris knows that we pulled an entire dwarfhold from the realm of Chaos, he considers us an expert on the matter. The local Boyar would probably only know as much as the Ice Witches tell him.

If we approach with a letter signed by Boris, saying he heard about trouble that is about to escalate (because Mathilde said so, and she's the expert) and is sending an expert as support, that's completely different then approaching the locals with tales of doom in the forest. It might even be a point of contention between the Witches and the Boyar, for example, the Boyar not believing that the threat is as big as the Witches say, and a foreign spellcaster changes little. Alternatively, the Witches might be trying to squeeze as much as they can from the Boyar in exchange for their help. However, with support from Boris, we'd be sidestepping their local issues. They would all have to play ball because the boss said so.
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Or it might be that the sight of such a letter in the hand of a strange magician will unite the witches and the boyar against the meddling of the central authority, the witches will re resentful for their loss of influence and the boyar over a a young prince giving them advice from half a realm away.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Or it might be that the sight of such a letter in the hand of a strange magician will unite the witches and the boyar against the meddling of the central authority, the witches will re resentful for their loss of influence and the boyar over a a young prince giving them advice from half a realm away.
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Boris sounded very confident about the fact that what he says goes.
DragonParadox said:
Just because he can get access does not mean he is allowed to bring foreign magicians with him, in fact it seems likely he was only allowed to see it in their company.
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How would the Ice Witches even go about dictating to the Tsarevitch who he can and cannot bring into the cellar of his own palace?
 
Lampshade said:
Boris sounded very confident about the fact that what he says goes.

How would the Ice Witches even go about dictating to the Tsarevitch who he can and cannot bring into the cellar of his own palace?
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  1. He is confident he can do it with the Waystone project in Kislev with months or years do do it? We do not know how confident he would be in the span of time we are working with now which is days to week
  2. How do religious authorities have any authority over any monarch? By force of tradition, that is after all the source of the prince's power as well though his father the king
 
Boris was also born with the sound of the Bloodheart howling on the wind above him. A good omen for a warrior. The Hags also predicted that he would fight hard and die well. Good omens are always appreciated by the people of Kislev.
 
Some names are incredibly easy to guess, like Tilea being almost an anagram for Italy, Cathay being the old European name for China, Ind being India with the last two letters cut off, and... Nippon

The further east you got the lazier GW got. It's like a clear line telling you where the point they're interested in started degrading.
 
[x] Ice Witches
You are staying right here in Rakhov, to offer your services to the local Boyar and to work alongside the Ice Witches.
[X] Hag Witches
You are travelling deeper into the Shirokij Forest, to offer your services to the local atamans and their resident Hag Witches.
 
Swantree said:
Nippon? Is there a tribe of Spiritual Dryads that lives in the isolated lands of Amerigo too?
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Thankfully GW hasn't touched on native american look-alikes as far as I know. The Lizardmen's culture is clearly ripped off a mishmash of mesoamerican and South American cultures like Aztecs, Mayans, Incans etc. and there are the horrific Pygmies and native tribesmen of the Southlands and Lustria, but natives of North America Naggaroth are rarely if ever mentioned. I'm sure they exist, but they're never lingered on or explored from the sources I know of.
 
Horium said:
I can't help but giggle a bit at his name.

Boney likely couldn't have known, but while loza can mean several different things (including bloodline, vine, etc.), perhaps the most frequent use of the word would be a shortened name for a particular kind of hard liquor made out of grapes. At least in Southern Slavic languages.

And so, Captain Loza sounds to me something akin to how, let's say, Captain Scotch would sound to Anglo-Saxons (or Capitano Grappa to Italians would be a more precise comparison).
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No such meaning in Russian (and, I infer, in East Slavic languages at least, such a meaning totally would drift into Russian if it existed).
But hey, Kislevarin isn't any specific real world language.

Ice Witches are most geared to threat group if it's only Drycha or whatever lone hero threat, and if that's a warhost, they'd call up forces using their established channels without problems for us for upsetting power vertical or whatever.

[x] Ice Witches
 
[X] Ice Witches
I think we can get more from the ice witches right now than we can from Boris. The ice witches wish to gain more political power and taking care of what is happening is the kind of thing that can help them.
 
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