Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Mmm, another thing, if the killer is the last Haupt-Andersson from beyond the Warp... He probably knows Heidi is an impostor, or will figure out as soon as he becomes aware of her existence, if he isn't already, somehow. So maybe involving her in this investigation can backfire by focusing the murderer's attention on her.

Fuck it, Heidi, we can't introduce you to our dad, our girlfriend, our dwarf king, any gods we both aren't already acquainted with, any of your supposed relatives…
 
Well in order to figure out how we can investigate that Alric can't we need to know how Alric can. So assuming that he knows the entire light spell book what advantages would he have in investigation? Unless he has other skills we know about?
The Power of Truth on himself to make his interrogations easier (yeah, only for speaking truth, but he's a Light, so I guess he doesn't mind).
Inspiration as a kind of Knowledge-only Law of Logic.
Eyes of Truth as a "Fuck you lies/illusions/grey shit" spell.

Also... he's probably orders of magnitude better at understanding Chaos than Mathilde (sans handling Dhar). Both from being a Light wizard and a patriarch (so a specialty with Chaos dealing, long time to gain expertise + high clearance level).
 
I have an image in my mind now, of another god near the culmination of some chain of events or other leaning over to ask Ranald what he thinks Mathilde will do next.

Ranald, grinning like a loon and greatly looking forward to what's about to happen, answers "Oh, I have absolutely no clue."
Meanwhile, I'm imagining a divine fight going on between Taal and the Four and Taal being like.
Big And Taal "Can someone lend a hand"
Sigmar: "have this Patriarch"
Ranald: "guys, guys, you're not gonna believe it, I got something for this one!
Khorne, *still healing from a very confusing bear mauling, looks around nervously*
 
The Power of Truth on himself to make his interrogations easier (yeah, only for speaking truth, but he's a Light, so I guess he doesn't mind).
Inspiration as a kind of Knowledge-only Law of Logic.
Eyes of Truth as a "Fuck you lies/illusions/grey shit" spell.

Also... he's probably orders of magnitude better at understanding Chaos than Mathilde (sans handling Dhar). Both from being a Light wizard and a patriarch (so a specialty with Chaos dealing, long time to gain expertise + high clearance level).
So if we want to investigate something he might have missed we should try to follow the Dhar.
 
[ ] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
It's unstaffed and unguarded, protected only by locked doors, boarded windows, and a sinister reputation. Who knows what riches the Unfähigers squirreled away during their time in power?

I saw the word plunder and was helpless to resist. Besides it's for a good cause, we'll both be working to save lives and at the same time be redistributing stolen goods to better serve the Empire.

I'm also strongly tempted to join Alric directly. It will continue Mathilde's streak of being the most obvious grey wizard ever and accomplish the goal of keeping an eye on Alric. It will also mean an inside track on Alric's investigation to keep things going as we desire.
 
[ ] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
It's unstaffed and unguarded, protected only by locked doors, boarded windows, and a sinister reputation. Who knows what riches the Unfähigers squirreled away during their time in power?

I saw the word plunder and was helpless to resist. Besides it's for a good cause, we'll both be working to save lives and at the same time be redistributing stolen goods to better serve the Empire.

I'm also strongly tempted to join Alric directly. It will continue Mathilde's streak of being the most obvious grey wizard ever and accomplish the goal of keeping an eye on Alric. It will also mean an inside track on Alric's investigation to keep things going as we desire.
If there is any Dhar traces for us to examine they would be there.
 
So if we want to investigate something he might have missed we should try to follow the Dhar.
I mean, our Dhar trait just gives us +10 to studying it (+20 to wielding, but for obvious reasons that's a nah).
Alric probably has a specialized demon hunting trait, and a cultist hunting one, and maybe a set of skills for entire Chaos pantheon + Undivided (rather than our single general skill), and wouldn't put it past him to just be capable of differentiating Dhar from a vampire to a Dhar from a demon...
He's straight up a Lord Magister+, so more than our dad Regimand, and specced into anti-Chaos. If it involves cultists and their magic directly, he beats us both.

So... no real edge there, I am afraid.
Probably a better idea to go against his glory-seeking flaws and go close to the ground, Grey-style.
Covert interrogations, Underworld connections (doubt Alric would bother with criminals), less important family members, jumping into metaphorical garbage bin of this crime scene.
 
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*immature chuckling* Damn it, GW.
Glad to know I'm not the one immature enough to notice that :V

I think we should at least have an idea of the results of such a ritual. If it's something dangerous but manageable we can continue investigating as we're doing. If it's « summon a Greater Demon » or something on the same scale, our reaction should be to ring the alarm bell and bring in more people, and maybe even warn Alric.
 
[Does Regimand help? Roll: 78-10(busy)-20(college politics)+100(wants to spend time with Mathilde)=148.]
[ ] Favour to Mira
Tell him you're getting involved in this as a favour to Mira in exchange for Light Order assistance with the Waystone Project. While almost true, it does mean the stakes aren't high enough to demand his attention, and he may return to his previous task.
I think this is an example of Mathilde being wrong about her estimation of how things are.
 
"Seems that way." He grins at you. "Now, Apprentice," he says in his teaching voice. "If you were the one investigating this, what would you do?"
"Now that I've taken the job, I'll go to the nearest pub. Once inside, I'll get approached by a mysterious beautiful woman who'll hint at knowing more and needs my help. We'll be accosted by local toughs trying to scare me off the trail and in the ensuing scuffle will be plunged into a web of intrigue, romance, and danger that will lead me to the villain behind all this and then everything gets resolved in a nice neat package."

*Mathilde waggles eyebrows*
 
I don't think we should take the option labelled 'Plunder' which is in complete contravention of the Vow of Poverty whilst working with our not!dad who is himself a high ranking Grey Wizard.

It's fine if fish jump into the boat but don't go looking for them, and an option labelled 'Plunder' feels like looking for fish.
 
Yeah, I'm starting to feel the urge to finally take that spellbook completion action.
Think of the children(=eike)! Do it!
Speaking of Eike, I wonder, assuming we manage to teach her to a least a journemanling and then Mathy dies, will we continue playing as Eike? I know @Boney said that by now this Mathy's quest and if she dies the quest ends, but I wonder if having a disciple on hand will change it?

Lastly, i wonder if Eike will manage to repeat Mathy's feat of surpassing her mentor?
 
Realistically i think we are stuck approaching this from the wizard angle now. Heidi would cause way too many questions IMO, at least to start with. If we get through this line of three actions and find nothing it might be time to call on the god of luck's champion but not before. I don't know about you guys but that +100 has made me all the more inclined to keep Regimand out of... much more murky waters than the ones he thinks we are swimming in. I do think that push comes to shove he would fall on our side even if he did get a clue as to the truth, but in our case our side is the Empress' side and she does not need another Grey Wizard in her pocket.
 
"Now that I've taken the job, I'll go to the nearest pub. Once inside, I'll get approached by a mysterious beautiful woman who'll hint at knowing more and needs my help. We'll be accosted by local toughs trying to scare me off the trail and in the ensuing scuffle will be plunged into a web of intrigue, romance, and danger that will lead me to the villain behind all this and then everything gets resolved in a nice neat package."
Regimand: "*sighs* You've been reading the adventures of that Bright Wizard again, haven't you?"
 
If Mathilde wants Ranald's attention, saying 'hold my beer' usually does the trick.
You know, this kind of reminds me that we've currently got the most blatant of the Coin's effects on right now, at least to a Grey Wizard. At least, when Mathilde isn't pulling an entire mountain full of people from hell. That might be interesting.
If we get through this line of three actions and find nothing it might be time to call on the god of luck's champion but not before.
Bit late for that, man. We're already here. :V

Seriously though, I love the fact that Regimand basically had a natural crit modifier just from wanting to spend time with Mathilde. At least, before you count the other stuff. If and when we get Eike as our apprentice, we should one hundred percent introduce them. He would probably love a Grand-apprentice.
 
Can I just say how this gives me such fuzzy feelings? Really wish there were more chances to just spend time with Wizard-Dad and that he was an available social action. It feels bittersweet to see them Regimand's details on the Dramatis Personae relegated to the "Former, Fallen, Distant Characters" section...

E:
Also, low-key conflicted about the lost opportunity to involve Heidi on this matter now that Regimand is sticking around to help. Really wanted to see potential shenanigans ensue with Heidi flexing luck manipulation and her considerable intrigue skills.
Honestly, same, all the way through. Very warm and fuzzy, but I really wanted to work with Heidi on this and now involving her would be awkward.

Okay, I want to do a quick breakdown of all our options here.
[ ] Bring in the Empress
She will bring with her a lot of influence, a lot of skill, a lot of attention, and a lot of questions. But she has quite the vested interest in seeing this wrapped up quietly.
[ ] Bring in Lord Magister Egrimm
[ ] Bring in Lady Magister Elrisse
[ ] Bring in Egrimm and Elrisse
What better way to counter a Light Wizard than with one or two of your own? But they do know what you actually promised to Mira, and things could get awkward if they mention it to Regimand.
[ ] Bring in someone else: specify who
You have all sorts of allies, contacts, and favours that you might call upon.
I'm against all of these at this time (reluctantly, in the case of Heidi). We don't need more eyes on this right now, and we don't currently have any indication of a clear need for alternate specialized skillsets.
[ ] Approach Alric directly
Working with him means splitting the credit, which would partly fulfil your implied objective and let you be on hand to perform your actual objective. But while refusing your assistance would put him in an uncomfortable position should he fail, it does mean he'd know you're involved, and he may work against you.
Hell no. This gloryhound will emphatically not want to split credit, and the last thing we need is him deliberately throwing a spoke in our wheels. Or stumbling onto the full truth himself and deciding that having leverage on the Empress counts as a win.
[ ] Interrogate the spa Unfahigers
Break in, interrogate, Mindhole, leave. Risky and difficult under Alric's nose, but they'd have the most information.
[ ] Approach the hunting lodge Unfahigers
They've been left to dry by Alric and the head of the family. If you offer help, they're all but certain to take it.
[ ] Interrogate the hunting lodge Unfahigers
Break in, interrogate, Mindhole, leave. They have no protection against the likes of you, and may know something useful.
Out of all of these, I'm strongly opposed to the first one (too much risk for too uncertain of gain), and prefer the last one. I prefer interrogation over approaching them forthrightly because a) if we do wind up looting their manor I'd just as soon not introduce ourselves as the friendly neighborhood Grey Wizard who's taking an interest in their case first, and b) that way we don't have to worry about them blabbing about working with us. The descendants of Dieter IV get zero benefit of the doubt from me as to their assumed level of discretion.
[ ] Investigate Krieglitz Manor
Investigate the sites of the five brutal murders of members of the Unfähiger dynasty.
Worth doing, possibly not right away. The trail's already pretty cold at this point so that's not so much of a consideration.
[ ] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
It's unstaffed and unguarded, protected only by locked doors, boarded windows, and a sinister reputation. Who knows what riches the Unfähigers squirreled away during their time in power?
Tempting, but we've got 8 weeks to work with and only a very general idea of what we're up against. Right now we're just planning the first 3 weeks - let's stay focused on the work for now and reevaluate this once we know more about the situation overall.
[ ] Research: Alberich's life
For all the time you spent cleaning up the mess he made, you never learned much about Alberich as a person. Find out what sort of ruler he was, and that might give you insight into whatever he is now.
[ ] Research: Alberich's fate
Abelhelm would have had what happened to the last Haupt-Anderssen looked into. Someone has that report. Maybe Roswita, maybe the Witch Hunters, maybe the Cult of Sigmar. Find it.
Background info that may or may not pertain directly to anything happening now. Not worth making a priority IMO.
[ ] Research: Alberich's form
Alberich would not have been unchanged from a trip to and return from the Chaos realm. Research what changes may have occurred to him that may help you locate him.
Possibly quite valuable, but I'd like to get a sense of where we should be looking before trying to research what we should be looking for, as that seems like the most reasonable order of operations to me.
[ ] Research: Chaotic Vengeance
This would be far from the first time someone's sold themselves to the Dark Gods for vengeance, and the Dark Gods tend to act in patterns. Research earlier examples of the same phenomenon.
This is a good idea IMO. If we can get an idea of the pattern the killer is following, it opens up the possibility of getting a step ahead of him, which is where we want to be to catch him.
[ ] Research: Murder Rituals
Eight quiet murders in one family forty years. Eight brutal murders in one family in forty months. This smacks of some sort of ritual. Go digging through every resource you can find for what this might be about, and what might happen if it goes uninterrupted.
Same as above, plus this could also give us a sense of the stakes overall.
[ ] Research: Underworld Turbulence
'A fair bit of activity from that lot lately' is not really actionable. See if anyone knows exactly what's got the Chaos cults of the Empire in a tizzy lately.
Pure gacha pull. Might be closely related and super-helpful, or totally unrelated and useless to us right now.

In light of the above, my draft proposal would be:

[] Plan Laying Groundwork, Not Leaving Traces
-[ ] Interrogate the hunting lodge Unfahigers
-[ ] Research: Chaotic Vengeance
-[ ] Research: Murder Rituals
 
Comments and suggestions:

[ ] Bring in the Empress
She will bring with her a lot of influence, a lot of skill, a lot of attention, and a lot of questions. But she has quite the vested interest in seeing this wrapped up quietly.

I do not think this is worth it, for the reasons outlined above, we should not I think drag Regimand into a conspiracy that could get him killed, not for convenience, not unless we are staring down the barrel of the ritual being finished

[ ] Bring in Lord Magister Egrimm

All the reasons not to bring him in that people brought up before are all the more true now. If we did not want to put him in an uncomfortable situation before we certainly do not want to do so now when we are talking bout our divided loyalties as well. I mean there is something to be said about bringing him in and then asking his judgement about joining Alric, since he does know the man better than almost anyone else, but that would be putting him on a hell of a spot

[ ] Bring in Lady Magister Elrisse

No, we do not know her and we have no reason to trust her, also from the fact that she is hedging her bets politically it is clear she does not want to be anywhere near this if she can help it. An unwilling unknown sounds like a nightmare. That said she would be useful in the ritual research.

[ ] Bring in Egrimm and Elrisse
What better way to counter a Light Wizard than with one or two of your own? But they do know what you actually promised to Mira, and things could get awkward if they mention it to Regimand.

You can see the trouble with this one a mile away, pass, hard pass

[ ] Bring in someone else: specify who
You have all sorts of allies, contacts, and favours that you might call upon.


I cannot think of anyone in the city or who could afford to drop anything besides those mentioned.

[ ] Approach Alric directly
Working with him means splitting the credit, which would partly fulfil your implied objective and let you be on hand to perform your actual objective. But while refusing your assistance would put him in an uncomfortable position should he fail, it does mean he'd know you're involved, and he may work against you.

Not a risk I think we should take, at least again, not from the start, the last thing we need it is be actively working against an Alric who thinks we want to steal his glory. also it would indicate to Regimand that we do not care about the politics as much as w said. That might get him looking for answers we do not want him to find

[ ] Interrogate the spa Unfahigers
Break in, interrogate, Mindhole, leave. Risky and difficult under Alric's nose, but they'd have the most information.

Risky play to start with, but I could see it working with the Coin to fall back on. As soon as we made it to the street we are home free

[ ] Approach the hunting lodge Unfahigers
They've been left to dry by Alric and the head of the family. If you offer help, they're all but certain to take it.

Low risk... some reward, I think I will vote for this in no small part because someone has to guard these people

[ ] Interrogate the hunting lodge Unfahigers
Break in, interrogate, Mindhole, leave. They have no protection against the likes of you, and may know something useful.

As the above, but with less kindness to the desperate

[ ] Investigate Krieglitz Manor
Investigate the sites of the five brutal murders of members of the Unfähiger dynasty.

Standard operating procedure and we might find something Alric missed with windseer

[ ] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
It's unstaffed and unguarded, protected only by locked doors, boarded windows, and a sinister reputation. Who knows what riches the Unfähigers squirreled away during their time in power?


Nope, nope, nope , this actually does go against the Vow of Poverty. It is robbing imperial nobles

[ ] Research: Alberich's life
For all the time you spent cleaning up the mess he made, you never learned much about Alberich as a person. Find out what sort of ruler he was, and that might give you insight into whatever he is now.

It might let us get into his head

[ ] Research: Alberich's fate
Abelhelm would have had what happened to the last Haupt-Anderssen looked into. Someone has that report. Maybe Roswita, maybe the Witch Hunters, maybe the Cult of Sigmar. Find it.

We do have the contacts for it and other than the cult of Sigmar I do not think Alric does so we would not likely be retreading old ground

[ ] Research: Alberich's form
Alberich would not have been unchanged from a trip to and return from the Chaos realm. Research what changes may have occurred to him that may help you locate him.

We do have all those books on the warp so who knows the answers may be closer than we think

[ ] Research: Chaotic Vengeance
This would be far from the first time someone's sold themselves to the Dark Gods for vengeance, and the Dark Gods tend to act in patterns. Research earlier examples of the same phenomenon.

This feels like casting too broad a net. Chaotic Rituals are likely to be well ... chaotic, each driven by particular madness. Still I could be wrong, maybe the SoB is following a pattern he learned as a cultist and not just listening to the voices in his head.

[ ] Research: Murder Rituals
Eight quiet murders in one family forty years. Eight brutal murders in one family in forty months. This smacks of some sort of ritual. Go digging through every resource you can find for what this might be about, and what might happen if it goes uninterrupted.

We did just take that ritual magic course and learning is our best stat. I think we should take this one for a foundation

[ ] Research: Underworld Turbulence
'A fair bit of activity from that lot lately' is not really actionable. See if anyone knows exactly what's got the Chaos cults of the Empire in a tizzy lately.

As a Ranaldite we are probably uniquely suited to this one but it might be a red herring, not specifically linked to our investigation.
 
[x] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
It's unstaffed and unguarded, protected only by locked doors, boarded windows, and a sinister reputation. Who knows what riches the Unfähigers squirreled away during their time in power?

all hail Ranald!
 
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