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Am I just reading too much into the specific phrasing?

Specifically I am reading "Spend time assisting or ingratiating yourself with someone" as taking the position of a petitioner that either thinks of themselves or pretends to be on an uneven footing and creates the image of spending their own less valuable time for the benefit of the other party. What I am looking for is engaging with them on a more equal footing than a petitioner, by for instance going to social events and mingling. Does that make sense?
There's an action for that:
[ ] Immerse yourself in the culture of the 'Cityborn' Toriour inhabitants of Tor Lithanel

EDIT: Yes, it's not as targeted. But if you want to target someone and monopolise their time at social events you're going to have to either make yourself (seem) valuable to them - i.e. assist or ingratiate - or piss them off by constantly wasting their time when they'd rather be talking to someone else.
 
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Am I just reading too much into the specific phrasing?

Specifically I am reading "Spend time assisting or ingratiating yourself with someone" as taking the position of a petitioner that either thinks of themselves or pretends to be on an uneven footing and creates the image of spending their own less valuable time for the benefit of the other party. What I am looking for is engaging with them on a more equal footing than a petitioner, by for instance going to social events and mingling. Does that make sense?

'Assist' is used here to mean 'help in some way'. 'Ingratiate' is used here to mean 'spend time with while being pleasant company'. Neither is meant to imply taking a lesser position to the person in question. Spending a great deal of time with someone without being either helpful or pleasant to be with is the sort of thing that annoys people.

Edit: And from the other side, since this is supposed to cover multiple months of a year, it would be learning about the party in question from second hand sources instead of literally stalking them.

Crippling Mathilde's information-gathering options in this way means you'd only get very surface-level information while practically guaranteeing they find out you're asking around about them behind their back. Higher risk, lower reward. Trust that Mathilde, Lord Magister of the Grey Order, will not be caught peering in through someone's window with a notebook and a set of binoculars.
 
w.r.t the Leading plan, why not spend an extra WEB-MAT action, since for every 2 we get one free?
Because this turn we also want to bring in runesmiths, furnish living spaces, immerse ourselves in culture, and experiment with AV. We can't do all these things if we spend an AP on another WEBMAT action.
 
I'm starting to think that we should probably give up the EIC actions to the Hochlander sometime soon. The number of actions that seem interesting with the EIC are dropping with time and our AP is at more and more of a premium. I would very much appreciate having 6 AP again.
 
I'm starting to think that we should probably give up the EIC actions to the Hochlander sometime soon. The number of actions that seem interesting with the EIC are dropping with time and our AP is at more and more of a premium. I would very much appreciate having 6 AP again.
Seconded. Let the Hochlander do what we hired him to do.

It's not that the EIC actions are terrible, it's that our regular actions are just... better.
 
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When were we given news that we were a dwarf?

Mathilde read the announcement here, but Boney first posted it to the thread here.

(Also, I feel the need to add that I don't believe Mathilde is literally a dwarf, it's a political fiction the High King and the Ancestor Conclave invented to explain away her successes in a way that doesn't harm the dwarven ego, but there's no real evidence one way or another, so eh)

Edit: Godsdamn Eshin. I spent an extra ten seconds spell checking and I got pipped to the post.
 
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"I didn't know humans had Loremasters. There was a human Chamon Mage at the battle in the Ward of Rain, just had a staff. Good with the metal, though." He gestures demonstrably and a few slivers of silver shoot out of his outstretched hand, peppering the path ahead. "Most of our metal-Mages are smiths, not fighters."

"There are two metal-Mages I work with that will be joining me here, and both are also fighters. One archer, one with fists."

"A fist metal-Mage?" He considers that for a while. "That must be interesting. I would like to meet them."
Re-reading the update for a dozenth time, I've been considering this line. Kadoh says that most of their metal mages are smiths, not fighters, and Mathilde describes Max and Johann as Fighters.

This is true, they are fighters. But I think that Mathilde also failed to mention that they're also smiths. Max is obvious, he's a blacksmith and your stereotypical artiste who glorifies the art of craftsmanship and seeks "True Transmutation". Johann is less obvious and requires some reframing, so bear with me here.

Johann is incapable of reaching certain aspects of Chamon, including Alchemy, the most prized art of his order. He focuses almost entirely on being puncher supreme, and he isn't exactly the most academic person. He isn't like Adela, who makes crazy inventions with her engineering, despite him having enough knowledge of engineering to consider reverse engineering Skaven tech. He isn't like Max, who places craftsmanship above all else. But there is a weapon that Johann's been forging for a long time, and that is his body.

I was at first confused at the Order of the Pick. Grungni, the Father of Dwarfkind is a Miner and a Craftsmen. His greatest deed was creating the Throne of Power and the Rune of Azamar. Why is one of his orders focus on fist based martial arts? But the description of their order in the Dramatis Personae is that they seek not to emulate Grungni himself, but his pick. And then it hit me.

The Pick, like all Dwarf tools, is both a tool for utility and a weapon in times of war, and the Miners still use it as their standard weapon. The Order of the Pick are craftsman, and the tool/weapon they're forging is their own body. And who better to exemplify that than Johann? The man who literally Gilded himself, risking his life and limb to overcome his limitations and forge his body in a crucible of fire. It backfired at one point, permanently blinding him, but such is the risk when one tries to create sometimes. Some people lose their fingers or their ears, and Johann happened to lose his eyes in his pursuit.

The point is, while I understand why Mathilde chose to emphasize that her Goldies are Fighters, they're just as much smiths as they are combatants.
 
He runs his eyes over you, and he cannot conceal his surprise as his gaze meets your Shadowsteed. After a moment he tears his gaze away and goes still as he focuses, and over a few seconds he draws in and shapes Ulgu into a textbook-perfect example of Shadowsteed, bearing none of the tweaks, shortcuts, adaptations or personalizations that every human Wizard develops. He mounts his conjured horse with practiced ease.
Hmm... Elves don't have masteries, we know this from Boney. So of course, he does Shadowsteed with perfect efficiency and does a textbook example. But that means...
Bretonnian Horse: 8 MPH for 10 hours/day. 80 miles/day.
Shadowsteed: 15 MPH for 6 hours/day. 90 miles/day.
Mathilde's Shadowsteed: 25 MPH for 10 hours/day. 250 miles/day.
Mathilde might have a faster Shadowsteed than other elves provided they don't have masteries. And I do not think they do.

@BoneyM this isn't a demand or anything, but if Mathilde took an immersion action and she thought it wouldn't rile things up (I have no idea how Elves would react to such a thing), do you think a Shadowhorse race is possible? I think it'd be a cool scene. On the other hand Mathilde probably wouldn't want to stir the pot until she learns more about the culture, but showing Elves that there are some merits to human casting sounds fun.

(Knowing them they'll think a monkey learned how to perfectly ride the bicycle or something and think it's cute at best).
 
@BoneyM this isn't a demand or anything, but if Mathilde took an immersion action and she thought it wouldn't rile things up (I have no idea how Elves would react to such a thing), do you think a Shadowhorse race is possible? I think it'd be a cool scene. On the other hand Mathilde probably wouldn't want to stir the pot until she learns more about the culture, but showing Elves that there are some merits to human casting sounds fun.

(Knowing them they'll think a monkey learned how to perfectly ride the bicycle or something and think it's cute at best).

The phrase 'Shadowhorse race' wouldn't make sense to them. It just takes basic competence to cast the spell right and not fall off, and there's no meaningful way to demonstrate skill. It'd be like challenging someone to an elevator race.
 
The phrase 'Shadowhorse race' wouldn't make sense to them. It just takes basic competence to cast the spell right and not fall off, and there's no meaningful way to demonstrate skill. It'd be like challenging someone to an elevator race.
If all their shadowhorses move at the same speed, guess it make sense.
 
The phrase 'Shadowhorse race' wouldn't make sense to them. It just takes basic competence to cast the spell right and not fall off, and there's no meaningful way to demonstrate skill. It'd be like challenging someone to an elevator race.
Of course, those crazy humans like to tear out all the safeties with their chiselhands to make them go faster.
 
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